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    Gas $1.51/litre: Bend over Montreal

    What's with these prices? Seems higher than a lot of other places in Canada. Forget about the US where prices are recently lower. Montreal is a port city. Irving oil not too far. WTF is going on?

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    Look on the bright side....

    1) It's still considerably less expensive than many other parts of the world (e.g. Europe, etc).

    2) High gas prices is good for the Canadian dollar & the economy.

    3) In 10 years, you'll think back & consider it was rather cheap to pay $1.50 for a litre of gas.

    4) It might encourage people to get off their butts & start walking or cycling.

    5) It gives the agencies an excuse to bring up their rates. (bad, bad idea!!)


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    I disagree with 2. High gas price is probably only good for very specific and small sectors of the economy. In general it's bad for the economy because everything is more expensive as the added costs for transportation get passed down to the consumer. It's also been shown that high oil and high gasoline prices limit the growth of the US economy, which isn't good for my stocks.

    I like 4 though. But in other cities where cycling isn't an option, high gas prices won't really help the environment.

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    Si au moins les services de train et de metro etaient comme en europe tout le monde pourrais payer 3$ du litre car ils auraient bien moins besoin d'une auto, notre seul probleme avec le prix plus élévé c'est que nous n'avons pas d'autre choix que de les payercar c'est devenu un vrai cartel.

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    Number 4 does not make much sense in Canada since six months out of twelve months it is just too cold to be riding a bicycle however some people tough it out during fall and spring but the weather conditions are too harsh in winter. Imagine going to a job where you got to dress classy and all the snow and salt ruins your pants and shoes.

    On the other hand public transportation in Montreal and the rest of Canada is too poor only Toronto is decent enough. Metros should be everywhere on the Island of Montreal we need like 468 stations with 337km of route length like in New York City. I would drop my car for public transportation if we had that.

    High gas prices is the worst thing for the economy. The 1973 oil crisis was a major cause and initiation of a gradual decrease in the discretionary income of middle class people as it resulted in major inflation. The price of everything goes up when oil prices increases cuz those rich corporations pass on the charge to the customer.
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    Odd that surrounding towns gas is less $0.10 or more. Talk to your alderman and grab your ankles at the same time.

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    Fuel companies don't gouge Montreal's customers, never happened, never will...

    http://ottawagasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx

    (Feel the sarcasm...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbodick View Post
    What's with these prices? Seems higher than a lot of other places in Canada. Forget about the US where prices are recently lower. Montreal is a port city. Irving oil not too far. WTF is going on?
    In Montréal, everything who is happening in the world is a good reason to raise the price... But with the death of an American diplomate 2 days ago in Libya.
    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/vilerat/ ) that's an event that could be close to bring more wars, and raise naturally the price of gaz everywhere.

    All that because of a certain little movie made in the USA was badly showing "the prophet". Religion is sacred for some, to the point to make them kill people. That's always been.

    So, there is your reason why the gaz is soooo expensive suddenly.

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    I need to chime in.....

    The murder of the American ambassador & three other State dept. officials will not bring about another war, for the simple fact that it had nothing to do with Libya, other than being the location where the act was committed. The murder was committed by a group of terrorists affiliated to Al-Quaeda. America is already at war against Al-Quaeda, so nothing changes there other than the fact they Americans will likely enter Libya in order to hunt down the murderous cowards. My guess is that they ran away like cowards usually do & might not even be in Libya anymore.

    Second, the act was NOT committed because of that crappy movie. It was likely planned well-ahead of time, to coincide with the 9/11 anniversary. Protestors do not show up with machine guns, grenades & rocket launchers. What we're finding out is that the terrorists likely used the demonstrators as a diversion in order to infiltrate the area without getting detected. However, the compound itself was an easy target, considering no US marines were posted there & the doors had not been reinforced. All you needed to get in was a key.

    And finally, there are many factors involved in higher gas prices. Among them are the recent hurricanes which just occurred in the southern US, the political instability in Iran & the middle east, etc. But i can almost guarantee you that a few hundred protesters in front of the US embassy in Cairo or the recent murder of American diplomats is NOT the reason why gas prices suddenly jumped up. Blame this on the oil speculators.

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    Doc, I like that when you are explaining things with all the details.

    My explanation was way to short and incomplete. Yours is better.

    Thank you.

    But, at least, we both agreeing that politics, natural events and a "human religion war" are freezing down the enthusiasm of money speculators, and that's bring the huge price of gas lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maria Divina View Post
    In Montréal, everything who is happening in the world is a good reason to raise the price..
    So, there is your reason why the gaz is soooo expensive suddenly.
    Prices shoot up instantly when there is a reason to make them go up, and then take their sweet time coming back down if they ever do completely. The "good" reasons are sometimes only weak justifications. Minor negative things shoot the prices up, while minor positive things don't do the opposite.

    As for getting rid of the 5.7 ltr Hemi, keep it and enjoy it because in a decade you'll be driving a vehicle with an oversized lawn mower engine.

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    Si au moins avec les taxes sur le carburant on avait de meilleurs services publics metro et autobus.Il est grand temps de prolonger le métro et de changer nos vieux trains.

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    Comparded to other major cities of much greater populations, our transit system is very uncomfortable, inefficient, and problematic.
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    i am starting to look at the electric cars for my next car. also i take the metro, bixi and walk

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