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    You are the Boss

    Since we are all hobbyists and I find that being a consumer is the opposite end of being the shop owner - I`ve certainly always had the fantasy of being the boss of an agency, just to improve my experience.

    I could always think of things I would do if I owned an agency that would increase business, etc. handle complaints, etc. It is sort of coming up with a better Business Model for the typical Outcall agency.

    This is my list:

    1. Lower fees.

    A girl that works for JDM ($130/hour) and who worked at another agency that was $180 an hour told me that she does far better with the $130. She gets $70 from the $130 and $100 from the $180. I would set the rate at $150 and give her $85. The driver gets $30 for the delivery. See #2. I would get $35 per girl per hour.

    2. I would encourage longer stays by giving better rates for second and third hours, etc. The less time a girl has to spend traveling the greater the bottom line.

    Following #1, I would decrease the second hour by $30 ($120), and subsequent hours by $30 )($120). I would still give the girl $85 for the second hour and subsequent hours. I would still get $35 per girl per hour.

    3. I would charge more ($180 - $40 for the driver, extra $10 for the girl) for areas more than 20 minutes from centerville and require more than 1 hour.

    I think the majority of the calls come from downtown Montreal. Correct me if I am wrong. I know that the number one excuse when a girl is late is that she had to come all the way from Laval or somewhere outside of the Island. Or maybe girls outside the area can have their own cars adn they can keep the drivers fees.

    4. Honest descriptions and what to expect. Some agencies do this better than others. One agency I call frequently tells me great service and I know that = GFE, kissing and , no problems. I still ask the question.

    5. No extra charges by the girls. Customers may tip, but the girls may not ask. I usually give girls a $20 tip.

    6. Deals on doubles. For some reason, some agencies charge more for doubles. Elganza for example.

    I would knock off $20 of the total for each hour. For example: 2 girls for $280 the first hour and $220 each hour afterwards. My expenses are $170 for the girls and $30 for the driver for the first hour. So my profit is $80 for the first hour and $50 for each hour afterwards.

    7. Driver will have a van in centerville. I`ve heard that some agencies have the girls stay home until they are requested. This takes extra time to deliver.
    Lowering the cost and increasing the profitability in my model is attributed to less travel time.

    This was done from the perspective of a visitor. This may not be a good model for locals.

    I invite your comments.

    Daydreamer

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    I can add

    I wud have a base aswell, meaning apartment or loft when they can hang out while waiting for calls, that way u can make bookings on girls that have already shown up so u don't end up looking stupid when they r booked and dont show up. There shud b a shower facility there aswell, where they can cleanup after an appt. in case there wasn't a shower available.

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    That's a good add to the list.

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    Daydreamer,

    A very thoughtful and interesting analysis of the escort agency business model. Most of your ideas are logical. It's always been my understanding that the agency owner gets a bigger % of the booking than what is suggested in your model. As far as discounting subsequent hours, I have always thought it bizarre and illogical that the HDH agencies do not deeply discount subsequent hours if on the one hand they are claiming that the girl only sees one client a day.

    The most important thing though is to get girls who are reliable. It is not so easy to do. A lot of the problems we read about on this Board are not really blameable on the agency owners, even though they end up taking the blame. I personally doubt I would have the patience that has been exhibited by some of these owners as I believe very firmly in punctuality and reliability and girls being able to leave their problems at home. But it doesn't always happen that way. I suspect that if any of us traded places with Kevin of DC, or Celine or John Eleganza for one busy Saturday, and had to deal with their booking issues, we would come back with a new and more sympathetic perspective towards these agency owners.
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    Your # 7 a van in the centreville. I'd change that to a small place with pool table, TV and small bar. Hey the better you treat the girls the more they will want to keep the job. Just imagine spending your Saturday night in a van waiting for a call....

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    Cool

    nice posts by daydreamer and pm, you guys wanna start a service?
    I got 5 mcgill coeds waiting for the time to shine..

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    Multi-Hour Pricing

    I have never understood the pricing with subsequent hours after the first hour for most agencies, especially the LDLs. Seems to me most of them charge the same rate, may be just a bit less, for the second hour as for the first. I would have thought that as a minimum staying for another hour or more would have saved the driver`s part of the expense and the travel time for the SP to go to the next appointment, so at least part, if not all of the savings, could be passed on to the clients. One agency rate that makes sense to me is the companions. The first hour is $300, and the second hour is $150, for a total of $450 for two hours.

    Don`t know if the agencies or ladies are actully discouraging multi-hour bookings by using this pricing structure. For the ladies, may be it would take more efforts to keep someone happy for more than 1 hour? May be it would require more skills, such as the ability to keep a good conversation going, that not all SPs have? For the agencies, may be they don`t want to tie up their better and best SPs for a long period of time while others may be waiting? May be spreading the SPs around more clients one hour at a time may produce better returns because you are building a larger client base that way? These are my speculations. I would be interested in hearing other thoughts.
    Last edited by Rex Kramer; 05-22-2005 at 02:00 PM. Reason: Multi-Hour Pricing

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    ...and I though I was the sucker and the client was the suckee! ROFL

    Ronnie,
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    they will forget what you did,
    but they will never forget the way you made them feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtylady
    ...and I though I was the sucker and the client was the suckee! ROFL

    Ronnie,
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    You can say or suck that again!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Bly
    You can say or suck that again!!
    She probably will! (Do both, that is!)
    May your genitalia never fail ya.

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    Iím impressed with your list. But let your feet touch the earth again
    You have somewhat touched on a few facts but long off the whole picture, itís not clear cut like you say it is.

    SPís get paid by the hour each hour
    Drivers the same for each hour in addition each SP booked and the further the call is the more money they get paid. Thatís why the agencies have so many different prices

    Agency gets whatever is left over and if you happen to get a discount on the second hour, itís coming out of the agencies pocket.

    This the ONLY business which I have NOT seen any real rate increase in 25 years till the internet.

    Donít forget Agencies have their own expenses besides SPís and Driverís
    Advertisement in several locations like in maintain websites, hosting web pages, magazines, internet, and it goes on and on, take for example JDM the newspaper they charge I believe its close to 18$ a line (at times I wonder who are the real ďpimpsĒ are here) and the others are no better, call any paper and ask for add prices for the ďEscort ServicesĒ section and they are double and at times triple the price of normal adds. I could never understand that.
    Other expenses would be cell phones, business land line for most Yellow page advertisers
    Car repairs (with the roads in Montreal ouch lol) oh yes the price of GAS we ALL know how that feels lol

    The only way I could see an agency owners cutting their expenses would by keep the SP at home until booked and driving them on the calls themselves, now Iíve read on a thread somewhere the headaches driving with SPís is like driving with a car full of PMSíin ladies not saying anything about the cat fights and the jealousy that goes when one is booked rather then the other ummm? Makes you want to rethink that huh! And most of the time they come in to work hungry, no cigarettes, no condoms, late thatís if they come in at all and most of the time in a bad mood and broke (either from their drug addition or their ďpimpĒ boyfriends that rips their money off each and every night) Oh yes all put on happy faces when they softly knock at your door and ask for your money (interesting)

    LET ME PUT THIS LINE IN BEFORE I GET MY KNUCKLES RAPPED
    I DO NOT THINK ALL SPíS FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY BUT THE MAJORITY WOULD BE!

    I can go on and on but with what Iíve seen FRIST HAND riding with a driver for several agencies these are exactly what agencies owners go through each and everyday besides trying to deal with unhappy clients!

    IMHO an Escort Agency would be the LAST thing on my list to do!

    SM

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    more corrections

    Oh yes just a few more corrections on what I`ve read.

    The Agencies cut would be 25 - 35 % before expenses
    The only suckers would be the "Tourists" which the SP are well advised if noticed before hand and if they are NOT merb members

    Iíve done my homework consider of running an agency and to tell you the truth, itís just not worth all the headaches!!

    SM

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