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Would this be a pipe dream?

Hetero-sexual man seeks lifelong partnership with bi-sexual woman for multiple ongoing, simultaneously-shared, female sex friends. Wants kids.
 

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Not a pipe dream at all. There are a lot of couples trolling for a third NSA "friend". Maybe they didn't start off with that intention, but still many end up realizing they find monogamy boring.
 

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I'm following up here because I'm searching for a new model for relationships because I'm going nowhere with the old-fashioned model. Fortunately, I haven't been "hooked" yet but the single life's getting old too. So, here's a revision to my first idea. (Maybe there's a better forum somewhere to discuss this...?)

Some of us men obviously have this animal desire for raw sex with a variety of women. It can be a sign of a sex addiction I guess, some people are compulsives who must learn to control their desires. But mostly isn't this desire just what defines being a male?, this lust of sex, a natural need for the pleasures of touch and sexual release, where there's no strings attached and we can easily change to other women (dreaming) without any trouble, and whenever we want to, pas problem.

But this animal desire wrecks many marriages. Or men just accept a sexless marriage... So, why don't single men create a new model, look only for lovers or potential wives who are willing to go along, let us see up to one escort per week, at the house, assuming our income allows it, less often if we can't afford it, and while she's there if she wants. She can join or just watch, or go shopping. Otherwise, it's a traditional relationship or marriage.

Of course, the man must extend the same option to her (male escorts). I'm personally ready to accept this. Maybe might even love to see a woman live take a monster cock, as I jack off and go CIM once he's done. ;-)

Nice thing with escorts is that you're dealing with professionals so there's little actual reason to be jealous because when the escort leaves, she's got a job to do, that's it, the emotional bond that may develop can be written off to good marketing on her part.

This would seem like a better outlet for that animal desire than either the man doing it anyway on the sly, or having a bisexual wife where the two of you search for bi females to have fun with. There, the emotions could become too involved, so jealously more likely can result.

Otherwise, the couple would carry on as a "regular" relationship or marriage, where you may even have kids. So, what are the big problems with this? Do any of you have this model down already? Are modern women likely to go for this?

Prostitution should become a widely accepted and integral, healthy part of society. Make colleges for it in Montreal. Just don't unionize please. :)
 
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Mike Mercury

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That lifestyle is easiest if you have lots of money and are able to treat your concubines to luxury.
This will allow you to pick good looking ones that are more or less sane.

Like Hugh Hefner & guys like him do. He is the circus master but it costs him.

If you are just a working joe. Well, good luck.
 

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I'm following up here because I'm searching for a new model for relationships because I'm going nowhere with the old-fashioned model. Fortunately, I haven't been "hooked" yet but the single life's getting old too. So, here's a revision to my first idea. (Maybe there's a better forum somewhere to discuss this...?)

Some of us men obviously have this animal desire for raw sex with a variety of women. It can be a sign of a sex addiction I guess, some people are compulsives who must learn to control their desires. But mostly isn't this desire just what defines being a male?, this lust of sex, a natural need for the pleasures of touch and sexual release, where there's no strings attached and we can easily change to other women (dreaming) without any trouble, and whenever we want to, pas problem.

But this animal desire wrecks many marriages. Or men just accept a sexless marriage... So, why don't single men create a new model, look only for lovers or potential wives who are willing to go along, let us see up to one escort per week, at the house, assuming our income allows it, less often if we can't afford it, and while she's there if she wants. She can join or just watch, or go shopping. Otherwise, it's a traditional relationship or marriage.

Of course, the man must extend the same option to her (male escorts). I'm personally ready to accept this. Maybe might even love to see a woman live take a monster cock, as I jack off and go CIM once he's done. ;-)

Prostitution should become a widely accepted and integral, healthy part of society. Make colleges for it in Montreal. Just don't unionize please. :)

Man this is the best post in a long time. Why not look for this? When I was younger I would not have been mature enough to look for or even consider this. But when you get into your late 30's and 40's and look back your values change. This would be perfect. Fuck jealousy!

Problem is, when your younger you look for a "good girl" who will worship you and then after a few years of marriage she does what all woman do and has an affair out of boredom and thinks she found her soul mate (setting up house with someone new is fun for woman) and the cycle continues.

Either have a relationship like VTguy says or just go to Montreal several times a year.
 

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I would like to have 2 boyfriends and be perflectly all 3 happy together.

This would be far more difficult, a different game, multiple simultaneous boyfriends/girlfriends (or polyamory), because there's a real possibility of jumping ship, of deciding that you don't really like the first guy you started with, and go with the new one, rejecting #1. With escorts, this wouldn't be as much of an issue because you really are likely just a customer... But if you want that and you have the emotional stamina, then the book "Ethical Slut" is great on the topic of polyamory.
 

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Hugh Hefner's married? In his case, with all his money and his pad, that would be pointless. But yes, it's for someone who has some cash. Some guys like boating. I prefer books and... sex. $200 at Angel for an hour every two weeks, $100/week, doesn't seem unreasonable.

That lifestyle is easiest if you have lots of money and are able to treat your concubines to luxury.
This will allow you to pick good looking ones that are more or less sane.

Like Hugh Hefner & guys like him do. He is the circus master but it costs him.

If you are just a working joe. Well, good luck.
 

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This approach allows you to have full honesty with your SO.

It could even be fun. She helps pick out your next visit. Or she decides to try to learn new tricks from the pro "en train". And as long as I never see the guy again, and he's a real pro, I actually think it might be a turn-on to see my wife taking it hard. ;-) Plenty of couples exchange.... but hey, that opens the door to back channel contact and breakups.

This approach focuses your relationship/marriage more around the issue of, need for, sex (at least for one or the other...)
 

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Man this is the best post in a long time. Why not look for this? When I was younger I would not have been mature enough to look for or even consider this. But when you get into your late 30's and 40's and look back your values change. This would be perfect. Fuck jealousy!

Problem is, when your younger you look for a "good girl" who will worship you and then after a few years of marriage she does what all woman do and has an affair out of boredom and thinks she found her soul mate (setting up house with someone new is fun for woman) and the cycle continues.

BTW, I think Maria tried to imply that I might have a double-standard, that I want this because I'm a guy and would not accept it if it were coming from my wife. Maybe. It might be hard, but more hard if you hear this AFTER you committee. And I'm sorry but her suggestion of what is called polyamory might be great for the few who can handle many, but me I have enough maintaining a sound relationship with one person. Adding emotional ties, more people, just would seem very hard.

Either have a relationship like VTguy says or just go to Montreal several times a year.

I guess the trick is to not get involved with a woman initially unless she's open to this idea and will even try it before you get too far along. The priority is to grow the love with your primary mate but have outlets from the start for what we know we all eventually crave.
 

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It depends upon the length of the pipe.

Okay, I'm changing this, so maybe the pipe can be shorter... Man seeks woman open to occasional visits from escorts, female for him OR male for her, open, honest, committed relationship, focused around long-term sexual needs.
 
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