Euphoria agency in the news

[CaptRenault]

I read the article on the Radio Canada site, watched the episode of "Enquete" (using VPN to connect from the USA) and read most of the comments in this thread. I also followed the story in La Presse of the shutdown of XO (thread about it is here).

The girl who goes by the name "Clementine" is the obvious link between the two stories. She seems to be on a one-woman mission to shut down the sex business in Montreal. Which agency will be her next target? Every hack reporter of crime and vice news in Montreal must have her number on speed dial, hoping that she favors them with some inside info about the business and so helps them boost their careers as crack "investigative journalists."

Part of my comment on the La Presse article about the shutdown of XO is worth repeating:

"...Of course, it is possible that this is the beginning of the end for escort agencies in Montreal...As I and others have noted, the laws to put an end to agencies have been on the books for years and it's just a question of enforcing them. However, to paraphrase Mark Twain, I think the reports of the demise of agencies have been greatly exaggerated. Based on what we know so far, this is an isolated case of one agency becoming very complacent and fucking up... XO alienated the tenants of the residential buildings that it used as it places of business. I have always been surprised that the main incall agencies got away with this practice for such a long time. Since I am a visitor to Montreal and I always use my hotel room as a rendezvous site, I have never used an agency that mainly does incalls. I understand the advantages of incalls but I never liked the idea of sneaking around in residential areas and buildings. It's kind of amazing that the incall business model didn't cause a big problem sooner than now...The sensational accusations of the purported "survivors" are not proof of anything yet. As I have clearly stated before, I do not subscribe to the "believe all women" school of thought."

Maybe the most interesting part of the current Euphoria story is the news about the well-known eye surgeon acting as a "recruiter" for Euphoria. Though he seems like a weird guy with some unusual fantasies who got way too close to the agency and its owners, it's not clear how he was recruiting girls for Euphoria. I guess he was trying out girls from other agencies and suggesting to them that they should switch to Euphoria. That's not exactly a crime, but we'll see if any charges are filed against him. Of course, in the USA he could get charged and convicted of "sex trafficking" and sent to prison for 20 years. Canada has not yet experienced a moral panic about "sex trafficking" in the same manner as the US but it could happen-stay tuned.

 

[YYZ69]

I am more curious and worried about where these girls will be going instead of these journalists and their motives. I really like some of them but regret so much I did ask their number when I had a chance.

Foreverescorts or Socia MTL

 

[YYZ69]

Comments are closed, i wonder why.

Probably Forever is next, they are too big and too visible now, the roster is insanely huge too.

XO, Euphoria, Forever and Socia

 

[rickybobby]

Like the police said to the journalist, they going by priority. If the girls are threaten or in danger they intervene if not they don’t. Now because of FK weirdo and dumbs that don’t take NO as a answer, the respectful guys gonna have to pay for this… gg

 

[CaptRenault]

I am sure the journalist who did this story is reading the board today and probably enjoy reading us. Kinda like throwing a rock in a fishpound and all the fishes start to panic and move all over the place.

The main reporter for the article and the video is this guy:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/romainschue/

Interestingly, he is French from France. Like many immigrants from France, he must have fled his home country to get away from France's high taxes and the socialist policies that have been strangling France's economy for many years. He is now helping to end Quebec's tolerant attitude towards the sex business in the same fashion that the French have mostly (but not completely) stamped out the sex business in France. However, I doubt that he has any principles. He pursued this story as an easy means to generate clicks and help his career.

 

[Skym]

When Euphoria restarts as new agency,any suggestions for their new name?

James' Mansion or James' Angels lol

 

[Glyscore]

Pour la majorité des gens, quelle que soient les conditions dans lesquelles le travail de sexe se fait, ce sera toujours inacceptable. On ressortira toujours l'exploitation des mineures, qui est évidemment inacceptable, et les clients violents et irrespectueux, tout aussi inacceptable, comme arguments pour l'interdiction totale de toute prostitution. Ca prendrait une vrai enquete objective avec des milliers de participants, escortes et clients, sans préjugés de base, pour pouvoir savoir si c'est un travail respectable ( ce que je crois a 100% ) ou non. Perso, je ne vois a peu pres plus qu'une seule escorte depuis quelques années, a peu pres une fois par mois, et je la considere comme une amie meme si nos liens sont strictement d affaire. En quoi nos rapports devraient-ils avoir quoi que ce soit a voir avec qui que ce soit?

Ça ne va jamais arrivé. Pour le commun des mortelles, ce hobby est honteux et une activité à désavouer. Les croyances judéo chrétiennes sont encore très forte en Amérique du Nord. Etk....get yourself an Indy and move on....The escorte agency game starting to have too Much eyes on...

 

[patrickcun]

get yourself an Indy and move on....The escorte agency game starting to have too Much eyes on...

J'ai essayé une fois, my god c'est comme un processus d'embauche, trop compliqué et je ne désire pas donner de renseignements privés

 

[elganja]

"...Of course, it is possible that this is the beginning of the end for escort agencies in Montreal...As I and others have noted, the laws to put an end to agencies have been on the books for years and it's just a question of enforcing them.

The problems here is with the Jordan Ruling. (Supreme court 2016) Since the passing of this law, we saw drugs traffickers and some others criminals being release beacuse of the time limits for being tried was not respected. You can safely guess that the minister of justice and criminal court judges won't board that train. Criminal Courts are under incredible pressure already to respect the Jordan Ruling and the jails are overfull. They won't willingly add to that because of this report. They will make a big show of it and keep sticking to minors girls, human trafficking and violence againts women. Like they should.

 

[Crazylixx88]

J'ai essayé une fois, my god c'est comme un processus d'embauche, trop compliqué et je ne désire pas donner de renseignements privés

I honestlt never went through any of this rigorous stuff you guys talk about. Say your name and age nationality and thats it . Never had one issue with indys

 

[Glyscore]

Tu peux choisir d'être une travailleuse du sexe et quand même être victime de violence et d'exploitation.. Je pense qu'on mérite le contexte et la nuance, mais il ne faut pas oublier ça. Présenter l'industrie d'une façon vraiment grotesque et exagérée, au final ça blesse les TDS parce que justement les gens veulent que la prostitution soit abolie. Mais dire ''cette fille est une menteuse'' ou ''elle joue à la victime et devrait se retirer de l'industrie si elle n'est pas contente, elle ne devrait pas chialer, elle savait bien que ces risques existaient'' comme certains le font, ce n'est pas mieux.

Là tout le monde a peur de perdre son emploi et sa crédibilité. Ça fait juste qu'on ne peut plus se permettre d'être honnête.

Honestly I don't get why this is turning into a ''agency vs indy'' debate because it just shouldn't. Everyone deserves good working conditions, whether they work for an agency, independently or at a MP. Also the industry as a whole has issues, and I understand why people single out agencies because they are extremely popular and they truly set the standard in Montreal, from what I've realized.

Would you agree that the current system garantees better safety conditions for independant escorte and their client vs escorte in agencies and their client? I dont have the data, but from the stand point of someone who juste wanna have Casual sexe, dealing with an independent SP seems more reassuring because if feels like the escorte wants to ne There. ( That's is if the SP doesnt have a pimp). Agencies would work and have less horror stories IMO if the structures around sexe work were more clearly established and accept.

But like I Said, we are in a society with big judaism-christian values. Dont expect a state journal like CBC making an video article on sexe work having grown ass women saying they love sexe and the life style even if it's true for 70% of them..

 

[overfiend]

I watch Enquete from time to time...and they are mostly biased Bull S#it.....come on "GFE cest GOlf one Experience". The girl who is helping them...so making up shit.....if she was really raped...where is the police case. Cops will tell you...if you are even a prostitute and you say no and get raped, there is a case and its a crime. Me thinks she aint a prostitue at all...just an actress. Remember she is talking so openly and did not ask to cover her case...a real informant in such a so called bad business would hide her face...but not her....some more BS. They just pick a target and make up stuff....this is Enquete for you. ITs all to make things sensational. Agency has nothing to fear.....escorting is legal in qC. Hope Euphoria come back...great agency and lovely ladies

 

[hob12]

I watch Enquete from time to time...and they are mostly biased Bull S#it. They just pick a target and make up stuff. ITs all to make things sensational. Agency has nothing to fear.....escorting is legal in qC. Hope Euphoria come back...great agency and lovely ladies

Lol.

I hope you don't often give legal advice to friends and relatives.

 

[curly]

Outch!

Un jeu de chat et de souris entre les courtisanes et les autoritées qui dure depuis des milliers d'années... et il y aura toujours des chats et toujours des souris. Ceux qui veulent abolir la prostitution se drapent dans leurs principes, mais même dans les pays les plus totalitaires, et autant dans les pays riches de pauvre, ça existe toujours.

Est-ce une bonne chose? Je ne sais pas. Mais ce que je sais c'est que l'éradiquer est une utopie.

Alors si vous voulez mon avis sur où les autorités devraient investir l'argent de mes impôts durement gagné (et j'espère qu'ils me lisent!) je commencerait par la traite de personnes, la prostitution juvénile et les pimps de rue.

En passant, ya des métiers d'hommes ou les travailleurs se font abuser physiquement aussi (pensez aux mineurs, aux maladies industrielles, aux accidents de travail). Mais puisque c'est pas sexuel, on en parle moins ... ou pas du tout...

 

[Samuellou666]

I watch Enquete from time to time...and they are mostly biased Bull S#it. They just pick a target and make up stuff. ITs all to make things sensational. Agency has nothing to fear.....escorting is legal in qC. Hope Euphoria come back...great agency and lovely ladies

Escorting is legal in Quebec ? You meant maybe paying someone “just for companionship” ?

 

[Giselle Montreal]

Alors si vous voulez mon avis sur où les autorités devraient investir l'argent de mes impôts durement gagné (et j'espère qu'ils me lisent!) je commencerait par la traite de personnes, la prostitution juvénile et les pimps de rue.

C'est exactement ce qu'ils font.

Ils veulent par contre élargir leurs interventions aux agences maintenant.

 

[Skym]

Going to see my barber tomorrow morning and try to get his thoughts on the situation.

Maybe he'll have some sage worthy advice.

 

[hob12]

Jpense jva juste recommencer à me crosser!

 

[TheJames101]

Frédéric Martineau, commandant de la section exploitation sexuelle à la SPVM, vient de nous informer à la télévision qu'ils visent les mineurs et victimes d'exploitation sexuelle, mais que maintenant ils élargissent leurs interventions au niveau des agences grâce à un meilleur financement. Ce n'est pas fini.

For those who still aren't sure, the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze at this point.

 

[Halloween Mike]

For those who still aren't sure, the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze at this point.

For us? It depend on the situation of the person i suppose. I think its more risky when you have a career or a reputation to preserve. Thats where they can hurt you. Personally im not exactly looking at having my picture spread in the newspaper as an escort client, but if it happen then what? Oh well... Its not exactly a secret in my case. My friends all know, my familly know, i never been ashame of it. Im not in a relationship either. In term of justice i don't think that would be a huge sentence for a first offense.

That said i do think the incall model is the more risky part as of now.