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Do you trust new vaccines / modern science?

Do you trust new vaccines / modern science?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 62.9%
  • Never have

    Votes: 4 11.4%
  • I used to - not anymore

    Votes: 9 25.7%

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Valentina Amante

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Just letting you know that sending me mainstream articles isn’t going to change my mind, because the point is to question things, not bow down to spoon-fed narratives. I’ve heard this all my life about mammograms ^^^ just like when they forced me my gardasil vaccine in elementary school and told me it will prevent HPV when it’s only like 3 out of 200 strains. After that vaccine I had insane heavy bleeding and cramps that put me out of school some days (many girls died too ^^ like the one I clipped up there - but again who cares since it didn’t happen to you - it’s anecdotal )
Btw big gardasil lawsuit :) https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/gardasil-hpv-vaccine-lawsuit.html

Shocker that gardasil is discontinued now. Lmao. It’s always YEARS after. Something people don’t grasp still.

Mammograms? They hurt like hell and there’s growing evidence showing they can actually spread cancer cells instead of detecting them. But sure, let’s all pretend that breastcancer.org - an organization swimming in millions of dollars in funding - has my Breast interest at heart.

I don’t think you realize how big pharma truly is. Like I said. A cured patient is a lost customer $$$
 

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Une dernière pour toi mon philou Chou Chou de mon coeur ❤️❤️❤️❤️
 

Valentina Amante

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Still open to hearing people’s thoughts on the actual post - not on who’s “right” or “wrong.” Fradi and I shared our personal experiences, which went completely ignored by those more focused on being outraged and self-righteous.

Anyone else is welcomed to share their thoughts on the matter.

GN.
 

Fradi

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I think the Covid vaccine did harm a small portion of the population and might go on to harm even more, but it probably saved many lives and serious illness as well.

For sure there are always a few that may even die from a certain vaccine but at the same time it may save many.
Overall I think vaccines do more good than harm.

I will be getting the shingles vaccine soon, ( had the older version already) just got the Prevnar 20 ( pneumonia vaccine). So I guess you could say I am more for vaccines than against but that does not mean that I don’t acknowledge that with all medication there is always a risk of some side affects even serious ones.

I don’t believe in the media or politicians at all but I do believe and trust the doctor that I have been seeing for the last 20 years she is amazing and a really kind person.( she was also a stunner in her youth when I first met her, yeah sometimes not easy to see a doctor who happens to be really attractive lol) I don’t believe she would knowingly recommend anything harmful to anyone and is the first one to admit that all medications cary a risk of side affects and it affects people differently. She has talked me out of a few and said that the medication is more dangerous than the condition and I should forget about it and live with it, said many people take dangerous stuff for conditions that are purely cosmetic and don’t need to be cured.


People don’t trust doctors and the science until the pain becomes unbearable and then all of a sudden both the medication and the doctor are seen in a different light.
Did we as parents go along with doctors recommendation and get all the recommended vaccinations done for our children, yes and I am glad we did they seem to be healthy adults without any serious illnesses so far and were rarely sick as children. The majority of doctors and nurses are good kind people and are there to help you. I trust them way more than a lawyer or garage owner or a Leo list SP lol.
 

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Belle effort Valentina
C'est impossible de débattre ce sujet
Ceux qui ont été vacciner plusieurs fois vont jamais admettre qu'ils ont commis un erreur de jugement
Le nouveau terme à la mode théorie de conspiration depuis 2020
L'industrie pharmaceutique finance les universités depuis longtemps
Le système de santé et les médecins sont géré comme une mafia médicale
 

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Belle effort Valentina
C'est impossible de débattre ce sujet
Ceux qui ont été vacciner plusieurs fois vont jamais admettre qu'ils ont commis un erreur de jugement
Le nouveau terme à la mode théorie de conspiration depuis 2020
L'industrie pharmaceutique finance les universités depuis longtemps
Le système de santé et les médecins sont géré comme une mafia médicale

100% impossible de débattre ce sujet hahah!
Comme je l’ai déjà dit, je ne suis pas là pour imposer mes croyances, mais surtout pour mettre en lumière les choses que les médias ne diront jamais vue qu’ils sont achetés. (Ça ne me dérange pas d’avoir l’air cinglée en apportant une autre perspective - quelqu’un doit bien le faire).

Je reste quand même surprise par les choix de réponses… je pense que beaucoup de gens ont changé d’avis sur la mafia médicale (comme tu dit) pendant et après la Covid. Beaucoup trop de professionnels du système de santé ont troqué leur intégrité contre un chèque.

Le but de tout ça c’est plutôt d’oser réfléchir différemment et de ne pas avaler tout cru ce qu’on nous sert.

À noter: Tous les faits que j’ai partagés ont été complètement ignorés. Personne n’a pris le temps de s’informer sur les articles ou les ingrédients des vaccins que j’ai cherché pour eux - les seules réponses que j’ai eues concernaient mes sources lol.
 
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The majority of doctors and nurses are good kind people and are there to help you. I trust them way more than a lawyer or garage owner or a Leo list SP lol.
Of course there are still amazing doctors out there… not negating this at all!

However, good and kind doesn’t mean informed or incorruptible. A lot of doctors followed orders like sheep during Covid… you do know they get paid incentives for every jab they push and every prescription they write.

The alarms were sounded. Again, IMO - this was a global experiment to see how easily fear could be weaponized and manipulate the masses, all while a vaccine that normally takes years to develop was rushed at breakneck speed and we were told to blindly trust it … for a virus of 99.98% survival rate… more chances of dying of diarrhea - especially old folks.

The world was a fkn stage - every news channel running the exact same script to feed the public. Hospitals full of mannequins in ICUs, some with visible missing limbs LMAO. Meanwhile, world leaders mandating masks were dining together at lavish parties, no social distancing, no face diapers.

Times have drastically changed IMO, and healthcare went from saving lives to being Big Pharma’s most profitable vending machine.

Trusting someone just because they wear a lab coat is like trusting a mechanic who intentionally wrecks your car for the next invoice… At least the SP on LeoList is honest about screwing you ;)

Critical thinking is dead. Question the narrative and you’re a “conspiracy theorist” while everyone else swallows headlines like candy.
 

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When I say good and kind the good basically comes with being informed lol.

While I am all for questioning things and not naive that big pharma is raking in billions and their number one goal is $$$ I also don’t discount the good medication does and how important it is to have a family GP that you trust.

Did I think the pandemic was handled properly, no. Curfews were a joke as if Covid knew or cared that you were on a curfew.
Giving the type of power that the government was using over the population should never be allowed by a free society.
Masks obviously did not work and social distancing turned out to be a joke also. It is easy in hind site to ridicule these measures but at the time even the best informed doctors were clueless and never faced anything like this before.


Generally speaking health care is a joke yes it is free ( or relatively free) but if you have ever spent 20-22 hours waiting in the emergency like I did with my mother and mother in law and they were both in their 90s was deplorable. Like everything else you can have great health care and have it immediately, you just need the secret ingredient $$$$.
Why is it like this ? because politicians the world over are a bunch of thieving scumbags regardless of which party they belong to.

Do I believe in conspiracy theories, no. Do I think there have been short cuts and corruption in the medical industry and are there slime-ball doctors also .That is like asking if bears shit in the woods.

Having said all of this my first line of defence will always be my family doctor and I will trust what she says but that doesn’t mean I don’t read everything I can about the medication she prescribes and I don’t question her about it.

Unfortunately critical thinking won’t cure most illnesses and won’t ease your pain either but accepting things without questioning is just plain stupid.
 
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