Yes, but I'm saying it was worded differently before. As illustrated in these mod posts from the past decade :
Danger of bbfs
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Yes, but I'm saying it was worded differently before. As illustrated in these mod posts from the past decade :
I love how a member who was suspended for asking for BBFs is actively commenting on this thread lol it proves my point.
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And who would that be? I am very intrigue with your affirmation because, normaly, a member do not get a simple suspension for this, he would get permanently banned!
The usernames are in my screenshots. One of them commented on this thread indeed.
It seems like he didn't get permanently banned. It was in 2014 and maybe the rules were different at the time, who knows.
Moral of the story : some people possibly don't tell the truth entirely...
Also sure we need to be realistic and aware that assaults happen in this industry, and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean we deserve it and shouldn't call it out. Laughing at us because we're speaking out against violence says a lot about your personal values.
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Since the rules was worded differently then, and his account has been reinstated, I, personaly, can only assume that he got suspended for a minor infringement to the say rule(like warning folks about a certain sw). We all know that members seeking those type of service are banned permanently.
Its called a discussion threads, people are curious and opiniated, you should know what it is. This affirmation of yours seriously lacks assertiveness and seems to be only meant to insinuate things that you, actually, have absolutely no clue if they are founded or not. I believe, especialy on this specific subject, that, every single members, here on Merb, should feel concerned.
It's related to something specific and I'm not talking about you. But I agree with you absolutely that everyone should feel concerned about this subject.
Fair enough. But that's not what the screenshot Julia posted seemed to indicate. It says this person was actively promoting a SW who offers BBFs.
Well, 1 mod seems to agree with me, and believe me, they rarely do!
If this agency has regular clients and 2-3 gurls offer BBFS, then the chances of the girls that do not offer bbfs has increased risk. Evidently offering BBFS is not against the law, but it should be for the SP as well as for the booker. You should call up anonymously and tell them that you will not be booking in the future with this agency because they offer BBFS.
You are starting some serious, bad rumors. Shame on you! I did not ask for BBFS nor do you have any idea of the statement I made. Since I didn't get a lifetime ban it was obviously an innocent statement. If you continue you reading that post it says, "...writing about it in any other context".
I used to work at a MP where a girl was rumored to offer BBFs but there's no way of knowing if it's true or not.. In general I think it's probably not the agency or spa owner's fault generally and they probably aren't aware of it, but I have no idea. Maybe some turn a blind eye. I think these threads kinda create a climate of fear and paranoia hence our reactions earlier.. Particularly since last summer, I and a few other colleagues were constantly harassed over text by random people who found us here for BBFs and these people were very rude and bragged about assaulting agency girls and doing bbfs with them. We ended up finding this forum where guys actually promote providers who offer them.
Ultimately we can't prevent anybody from offering them, but yeah from the little bit of investigating I've done, it seems like people are aware of who offers them..
I truly apologize, I made a big mistake.
But if you look at the screenshot, it's very ambiguously phrased. It says you promoted somebody who offered BBFs. I see now that you just made an innocent statement, and it wasn't your fault. It just seemed like a strange coincidence that this screenshot was posted but you commented here, that's all. We know people are seeking BBFs so we are all kind of worried about it. This is about everyone's health.Also should mention this and I tell sps this, if a client is pushing you for bbfs, genital rubbing( pussy slide for example others) etc trying to remove the condom, let them know the legal implications. Ask them if they want to be arrested for aggravated assault, have their face in major news publications, or put on a sex offenders list. Many sps I know now stand their ground and tell these clients the implications if any client is smart they won't ask for even a pussy slide, genital rubbing which is also bbfs and is assault.Don't ask and their won't be any reproductions.
Also, I mentioned this before but there are nasty clients who will start rumours about girls who refuse it, I know one who quit before because it was not true and getting ambushed by bbfs requesting clients. I am sure there are sps that offer it too but they should be permanently banned and blacklisted from this industry too.
Also, I mentioned this before but there are nasty clients who will start rumours about girls who refuse it, I know one who quit before because it was not true and getting ambushed by bbfs requesting clients. I am sure there are sps that offer it too but they should be permanently banned and blacklisted from this industry too.
Glad you mention pussy slide and genital rubbing as many don't realize the risks involved.
The reason talking about this practice was strictly prohibited is that accusing someone of engaging in this without solid proofs can seriously impact one’s reputation whether they’re a provider or a client. While it seems to now be tolerated and could be beneficial for the sake of bringing awareness, I will still respect the former rules and refrain from talking about it in the future. I have writing a post in the health section about where you can get tested in Montreal (and around).
Enjoy the weekend loves
Enjoy the weekend loves
Here are a few points I want to make about this subject before the thread gets closed. And I apologize again to the gentleman I offended.
1- Reporting an assault to the police can backfire against a provider and the client risks only being arrested for seeking the services of a sex worker, not for violence. Also girls who don't screen and people who work for establishments that don't screen are not protected in this case.
2- There's a lack of transparency about the rules in regards to this topic, and about the language used when someone is suspended for discussing it. There is a huge difference between "promotion of a provider who offers BBFs" and someone trying to warn others that someone is not being careful. I accused someone by mistake yesterday and I feel really bad for it, but the language used is ambiguous.
3- Like Lena said one of the reasons why this rule is in place is to avoid rumors and hearsay, and unless multiple clients have reported they have been offered BBFs by a client we can't know for sure if it's true. Another reason is that some bad actors who don't care about their health and everyone else's will try to find out who the person is so they can book her, or if she is named it gives her publicity.
(Example: last year there was a similar controversy around BBFs. Since I commented on the thread to de-escalate, I was bombarded with questions from clients who wanted to know if I had a list of providers who offer them, then I was harassed and sent death threats over text and so was another provider here who had initially expressed concerns. One client I had never interacted with reached out through my X account to accuse a very popular and well reviewed provider of offering BBFs, hoping I would spread the info)
4- It's not up to us to deal with providers who offer BBFs at spas and agencies in my opinion. Agency and spa owners have a lot of experience in the industry and I trust that those who want to protect the reputation of their establishment will deal with it. I recommend reaching out to this specific provider's boss or booker if you have concerns...
Being a provider I definitely feel concerned for my health finding out how common this so maybe this will bring more awareness.. have a nice weekend.
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Replying to the topic of “dangers of bbfs”
From my understanding, bbbj carries nearly all of the same risks of bbfs except for HIV. I would imagine that if one or both parties have received the Lenacapavir shot, then bbfs would carry nearly the same risk. Maybe the increased cases of bbfs being offered is due to the lenacapavir?
From my understanding, bbbj carries nearly all of the same risks of bbfs except for HIV. I would imagine that if one or both parties have received the Lenacapavir shot, then bbfs would carry nearly the same risk. Maybe the increased cases of bbfs being offered is due to the lenacapavir?
Hi,
I've been participating in this industry for 5+ years and I want to share my experience/perspective on this. I always have and will always avoid any SP offering bbfs. However, if I was meeting an SP and realized she offers it once on site (happened 3-4 times), I would go through with the booking, obviously using full protection (not even do bbbj) and I figured the risks weren't that different then other SPs which you can never really know what they do professionally or in their personal lives. Recently, I had a incident in a booking where the condom slipped. I noticed almost immediately and put another one on. The SP was a little unhappy which is reassuring but it made me reflect on my position regarding this. From now on, I will leave any booking immediately if bbfs is offered or if I realize it's an option. Furthermore, I am on a little break (waiting 3 months to test due to the slippage) but I'm thinking of changing from agencies to well reviewed Indies. Probably will be more expensive but feels safer right now.
As a sidenote, if anyone contacts me for references to bbfs, I will forward the message to mods.
I've been participating in this industry for 5+ years and I want to share my experience/perspective on this. I always have and will always avoid any SP offering bbfs. However, if I was meeting an SP and realized she offers it once on site (happened 3-4 times), I would go through with the booking, obviously using full protection (not even do bbbj) and I figured the risks weren't that different then other SPs which you can never really know what they do professionally or in their personal lives. Recently, I had a incident in a booking where the condom slipped. I noticed almost immediately and put another one on. The SP was a little unhappy which is reassuring but it made me reflect on my position regarding this. From now on, I will leave any booking immediately if bbfs is offered or if I realize it's an option. Furthermore, I am on a little break (waiting 3 months to test due to the slippage) but I'm thinking of changing from agencies to well reviewed Indies. Probably will be more expensive but feels safer right now.
As a sidenote, if anyone contacts me for references to bbfs, I will forward the message to mods.
