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  1. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    From what I hear they are rented. A lot of buildings downtown have agency or indy incalls or both. These buildings are owned by companies that are mostly interested in profit and won't really get involved unless there is a serious problem. I think that a lot of these buildings have companies...
  2. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    Oui on essaie de faire allusion à ça mais je pense aussi que ça n'a pas toujours été comme ça, le marché change, les patrons changent etc. Je pense qu'il y a sûrement des endroits pires que d'autres. Vous pouvez voir des indépendantes, mais plusieurs d'entre vous ne voulez pas le faire. Sinon...
  3. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    Ça ne veut dire que ce que tu fais n'es pas éthique. Le mot éthique et le mot légal n'ont pas la même signification. Tu le sais très bien. On s'éloigne de plus en plus du sujet. Le sujet étant une réalité matérielle très facile à identifier : les mauvaises conditions de travail imposées par le...
  4. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    A lot of terrible things are perfectly legal too. I feel like we're straying from the initial subject and I hope this conversation is over personally because I think the goal is to dismiss all of this as silly concerns by conjuring a bunch of logical fallacies
  5. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    I think to me it's impossible to do everything in a 100 percent ethical way in the society we live in. I value making educated choices, practicing harm reduction and treating others with kindness. Le crime organisé ... Mes 2 chats à qui j'achète de la bouffe avec mon argent de prostituée. ;)
  6. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    Why not? What makes it unethical to you? Because it's against the law? What is ''ethical'' anyways?
  7. Lunaseraphim

    The Confessional

    C'est bien vrai...
  8. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    Agencies don't only advertise on merb, and there is probably a context behind that.. I don't think they would have been able to press charges for that reason alone. This reminds me of that case that occurred a while back, a guy who filmed an appointment without a girl's consent, and she took him...
  9. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    I think it's really weird that you are weaponizing abolitionist discourse in order to maintain the status quo about abuse and exploitation in the sex industry, but that's just me. lol Nobody here has said that all sex workers are ''victims'' with no voice and no options. There's a difference...
  10. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    No, it is not the same. A lot of people who are for decriminalization of prostitution want sex workers to have rights and don't want us to be exploited and in danger. We never said ''agency girls are nothing but victims'', most of us have worked for spas and agencies and we never said it was...
  11. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    No one said otherwise. Nobody here is saying that girls at agencies are not good providers or that all agencies operate under the same rules. That was one of my first comments. Once again this isn't an indies vs agency girls debate. Just don't be contemptuous. It's not necessary.
  12. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    It's shocking to me that this thread is still going on and that people are blatantly defending exploitation. And this has been turned into a "Indies suck and charge too high" comment festival which this thread isn't even about lol A lot of indies still work for spas and agencies. By the way...
  13. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    ??? Nobody in Montreal charges 1000$ the hour. LOL
  14. Lunaseraphim

    The Bitching thread

    that sword tattoo i got on my right calf really hurt lol.. it's still hurting and i made the mistake of removing the plastic too soon, so my bedsheets are full of ink.
  15. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    I've never heard that. That is insane honestly. When I worked at parlors we often had to do back to back, but there were down times.. and we could choose to do short shifts.
  16. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    They are not street gangs lol street criminals don't own big bucks agencies.... it's more likely that places like this may have affiliation with the police actually, or with higher organized crime. This is probably part of why it's so difficult to dismantle them.
  17. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    From what I heard 10 years ago the industry was much different. And yes, of course management is mostly interested in money. When you think about it, in order to make profit, they have to cut corners as much as possible and make the girls work extremely hard in order to keep the prices low...
  18. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    We are all telling you what we know, from what other SP have told us who worked there. What is described in this article is the tip of the iceberg.
  19. Lunaseraphim

    Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

    It's not actually that hard in my opinion.. but in order to be ethical about it, you may have to make some sacrifices, and you may have to understand that this isn't fun and games all the time for everyone in this industry. This isn't an easy job. I think that there may have been a time when sex...