Anyone on THIS board used this service?

[HonestAbe]

http://foxden.ca/montreal/

Wondering if this is too good to be true. Girls all look amazing, all of them supposedly GFE or PSE, reasonable prices, with what looks like a dozen or more of them available at any given time throughout the day at a central INCALL location!

Interesting note from the site: States that this is entirely legal and actually licensed by the government. We are talking about a "Brothel" or "Bawdy house" are we not? Since when is this "legal" in Canada, anywhere? Is Vancouver really that liberal? Hal-le-lujah!

Finally, any flight/hotel recomendations for Vancouver, I'm going fox hunting real soon!

 

[Lion Heart]

Carman Fox & Friends

Carman Fox & Friends have been around for a while. I've met one of these "foxes" on an outcall basis while in Vancouver a couple of years ago. I don't recall her name but she was a very cute, tall dirty blonde with enhanced breasts who provided safe services (no kissing/daty, CBJ) but great FS, which was the standard on the West Coast back then. There are now a great number of foxes labeled as providing GFE services (coming however with a 50$ premium over non-GFE services). Rates for GFE services start at 300$/h, which is not cheap from the Montreal perspective.

I see that they have recently started an incall club they call the "Fox Den". I've seen similar clubs in Canada but always felt they were only "tolerated" by LE as long as they were located in commercial settings, not residential ones, and not the subject of complaints (much like massage parlors over here).

In their FAQ section on their main website, they indeed state this about the legal aspect of escorting in Canada, which I find surprizing :

"Q ::: Is Escorting lawful in Canada?
A ::: Yes, it is. The profession of escorting is licensed and governed by provincial and federal laws. Our Escort Service is fully licensed with the government. As well, each individual Escort is required to have an Escort License."

As for outcall, they do not present themselves as an "escort agency" but as an "escort referal service". I don't see much difference behing the name but is there one from a legal standpoint?

I'd be curious to hear other's views on these 2 aspects.

Lion Heart

 

[asimplepicture]

my experience....

Abe:

I do not want to regurgitate the entire episode, so I have provided the link about my disappointment. I did not mention it by name at the time, but Yes, it was this agency.

http://www.carmanfox.com/


the link:
https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=18180&page=4

Scroll down until you reach this point………

As another example, I will offer one of my own experiences.

My traveling friend had much better luck with them. He chose Jenna, I could not shut him up for a week! Otherwise, I cannot speak on behalf of anyone else. Just mentioning this place nauseates me. Also stay away from the spa’s, Tropical Touch, Cleo’s, etc. Shit service at about 425 when all is said and done.

On another note. I fly United from New Jersey and have been for many years. First flight out in the morning with a brief stopover in Chicago. I am in downtown by noon, PST.
If I have the funding, I stay at the Listel Hotel on the south end of Robson. Really nice place but a bit pricey. I like the privacy of this part of town. Note: A key card is required for entry onto the elevator, so you have to meet your company outside the elevator on the main level. The area is secluded from view so it’s not so bad.
My second choice is The Century Plaza. More affordable, SP friendly, on Burrard, two blocks off the north end of Robson.

Listel 800.663.5491
Century 800.663.1818

Additionally, you must visit with Laiya. It’s a two-hour experience not to be missed. She receives 3/4 blocks west of Robson. You can walk from either one of the hotels I offered. Not a total GFE, CBJ as opposed to , everything else is a go and great fun none-the-less.
Very, very passionate, great DFK, clean as a whistle, responsive, funny, intelligent and can really get on a roll.
Should you make it to Vancouver Island, look up Tawny. She only does incall on the island. You can take the ferry or a short, but somewhat pricey plane ride.

Safe trip.

 

[bond_james_bond]

Incalls are illegal in Canada. They are a "bawdy house." That`s the bottom line.

Now, what happens in Western Canada, is that local municipalities do license incall agencies. All the agencies in Victoria are like this. Their local governments have decided to take a piece of the action.

If the federal government wanted to, they could take the agencies and the local governments to task for this. So far that hasn`t happened, mainly because of the embarassing publicity that would cause.

But I wouldn`t be too interested in this regardless.

In B.C. and now Ontario, GFE is the exception, not the norm, like in Montreal. Also, I prefer outcall, where you are more relaxed in the comfort and safety of your own environment.

The rates at the Fox Den are $320 and Carmen Fox outcall is $250. That`s more than the average rate in Toronto, almost as much as an SP in the US, and almost twice as much as an outcall SP in Montreal. For non-GFE service.

This is why I still say Montreal is your best bet.

See https://perb.cc for more info.

 

[EagerBeaver]

asimplepicture,

That's incredible that an agency could have messed up like they did with you, not even getting the race of the woman correct. Shame on them for spoiling your trip!

When you took her to the sushi restaurant and she said "I don't eat this shit", it was very wise to send her on her way as you did. I can only assume, since you said that you planned the date scrupulously, that you informed the agency of your intended dining choice. That's something I always do when planning a dinner date.

 

[Sox.at.six]

I was out in B.C., earlier this month. From all I read on Perb and the discussions I had with people their, Carmen Fox agency seemed to be very well respected. Many review of their ladies and a nice site with good pictures. The rates are definitely high compared to Montreal, but when going to B.C. you must bring your wallet I have found. Most everything there, at least hobby related, is very expensive. Strip clubs are $40-$50C for a contact dance , all of them not even just the "nice" "high-end" ones. On certain block of Seymour across from the Penthouse strip club, they have some of the hottest SW I have ever seen, but I was consistently quoted $400 (1 shot and nothing else) or $600 (a BJ to start and 1 shot) needless to stay I declined despite their beauty. No bargaining was accepted, I think they have union or something .

However, back to Carmen Fox, I called them twice on a Friday and a Saturday. Both times I was unable to see any of their girls. Both times I called before 8pm and on Friday the receptionist assured me it was anomoly, she said I 'm very sorry about tonight normally we have many girls. The next day same story. Bad luck I suppose, but both nights I had to scramble around to book a replacement elsewhere. Frankly I was not impressed with Vancouver's premiere agency, though I never actually met any of their ladies.

I myself stayed at the Crowne Plaza hotel on Georgia, which was very nice and a great location if you are looking to hit up the night life on Granville. But, a key card is required 24/7 to use the elevators which is a big negative in my book (plus the elevators are slow as sh*t).

I have to agree with asimplepicture, if you are into petite asian chicks then Laiya is a must must see. Outstanding service and an extremely tight pussy. She even had a sex swing at her incall place. This lady really enjoys what she does.

Great place to visit for many other reasons, but for hobbying in Canada Montreal is king.

SOX

 

[asimplepicture]

your input,...appreciated

Hey EB:

>I can only assume, since you said that you planned the date scrupulously, that you informed the agency of your intended dining choice. That's something I always do when planning a dinner date.<

Absolutely! If you noticed in my flame, I not only mentioned my itinerary, it was also specific to our itinerary. I am embarrassed to offer the amount of time and attention to detail I invested on this excursion. And as you suggested, in planning just a simple dinner, I leave no stone unturned.

If nothing else, it’s just simply a matter of being considerate and respectful of the company.

B_J_D is spot on in his assessment:
>This is why I still say Montreal is your best bet.<

Although I have to travel to Vancouver a couple of times a year,……..
Lesson learned!

 

[HonestAbe]

Carman Fox & Friends have been around for a while. I've met one of these "foxes" on an outcall basis while in Vancouver a couple of years ago. I don't recall her name but she was a very cute, tall dirty blonde with enhanced breasts who provided safe services (no kissing/daty, CBJ) but great FS, which was the standard on the West Coast back then. There are now a great number of foxes labeled as providing GFE services (coming however with a 50$ premium over non-GFE services). Rates for GFE services start at 300$/h, which is not cheap from the Montreal perspective.

I see that they have recently started an incall club they call the "Fox Den". I've seen similar clubs in Canada but always felt they were only "tolerated" by LE as long as they were located in commercial settings, not residential ones, and not the subject of complaints (much like massage parlors over here).

In their FAQ section on their main website, they indeed state this about the legal aspect of escorting in Canada, which I find surprizing :

"Q ::: Is Escorting lawful in Canada?
A ::: Yes, it is. The profession of escorting is licensed and governed by provincial and federal laws. Our Escort Service is fully licensed with the government. As well, each individual Escort is required to have an Escort License."

Thanks to all for the responses,

Interesting to see some of the differences between Montreal and Vancouver. To clarify one statement from my opening post, when I wrote that the prices seemed reasonable I meant from my impression that the girls looked like they were ALL high end or "HDH" by Montreal standards which IMO is worth the extra $ because of the "beauty premium".

I am interested in those of you who saw any of these girls personally if you think that would be a fair description of the situation? In other words are the girls in fact absolutely gorgeous? Or are they on par with LDL girls here in Montreal? Not talking about the occasional gem, rather the "standard" girl in Montreal versus the "Fox Den", with the duly noted fact in mind that beauty is always in the eye of the beholder of course.

 

[Techman]

ESCORT AGENCIES – here’s a great business opportunity:
We are excited to partner with reputable Escort Agencies in Montreal. We offer $200 per booking, which would be your portion to split with your Escort(s) whom you send to Vancouver. You choose how much you pay your Escorts; if you pay you Escort $150, and hold $50 as your agency fee, one of your best Escorts will earn your business an additional $500 in revenue each day! This is often more than she can earn you when working in your home town!

If you read this part of their web site and do the math, it seems like the girls are worked basically non stop, 10 clients a day. From what I've read on the board, I don't think that there are too many ladies in Mtl handling anywhere near that number of clients or many that would wish to.