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Cold snap in Texas causes massive power hike

Sol Tee Nutz

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^^^^^^ Not sure if Tucker is an approved news source, someone will let you know.

I am all for green and it is slowly happening but those with an agenda want it now, not just now but right fucking now. We have made huge advancements the last 10 years and it may take 10 more years to get up to speed.
 

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^^^^^^ Not sure if Tucker is an approved news source, someone will let you know.

I am all for green and it is slowly happening but those with an agenda want it now, not just now but right fucking now. We have made huge advancements the last 10 years and it may take 10 more years to get up to speed.
Correct, that's why I mentioned it was an opinion piece. Unlike the typical CNN or MSDNC crap that people pass along here as "news".


Totally agree with your post. Texas get's these types of storms once in a lifetime so Tucker's piece is a little off base. But he does bring up a good point which you also make. To much too soon can bite you in the ass as Texas is finding out.
 
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As they say in Texas, Colorado City, Texas Mayor Tom Boyd (who has since resigned as of Tuesday, Feb 16th)
No one owes you or your family anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support you during trying times like this!

 
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Tucker Carlson is opinion, not news. Fox itself said that to defend themselves in a court case. They said that no reasonable person would expect what Carlson said to be true.
 
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They said that no reasonable person would expect what Carlson said to be true.
Please show some link to this claim or is it embellished / fake news?
 
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Please show some link to this claim or is it embellished / fake news?

Is this what you were talking about in the other thread?

That comes from a judge's ruling last year. She ruled that Carlson couldn't be held liable for slander because his lawyers persuasively argue that no one reasonable would assume that Carlson is stating facts on his show.

Summary here:

You can read the judgment here.

The relevant bit is on pages 11 and 12.

As Defendant notes, Mr. Carlson himself aims to “challenge[] political correctness and media bias.” This “general tenor” of the show should then inform a viewer that he is not “stating actual facts” about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in “exaggeration” and “non-literal commentary.” Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson’s reputation, any reasonable viewer “arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism” about the statements he makes.
 

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Fake news! Only 7% of electricity is provided by windmills.
Don't rely on that assho.e for reliable info !
More like 22.8% and that average was down 60% last week because of the weather. But, the point of the opinion article showed that renewable energy isn’t always the best way to go because when windmills freeze up you lose that resource because you don’t have reserves like you can with oil or gas.
 

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Tucker Carlson is opinion, not news. Fox itself said that to defend themselves in a court case. They said that no reasonable person would expect what Carlson said to be true.
I clearly said it was an opinion piece. Unlike many claims on this board using CNN or MSNDC as fact.
 

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Fake news! Only 7% of electricity is provided by windmills.
Don't rely on that assho.e for reliable info !
clip I found.

But natural gas still leads the way in the state. An ERCOT report on generating capacity listed the top sources of power in the state:
  • Natural gas (51%)
  • Wind (24.8%)
  • Coal (13.4%)
  • Nuclear (4.9%)
  • Solar (3.8%)
  • Hydro, biomass-fired units (1.9%)

Points I agree with.

Will renewable sources become as reliable as traditional sources? Of course they will, but it will take time, money and the development of new technologies (think giant battery fields and other new things) to make it so. Changes of this magnitude simply can’t be rushed.

In the meantime, the lives lost and damage done to infrastructure due to power outages right now need to be considered at the forefront – not as an aside or afterthought – of any new green energy policy put forth in Washington and elsewhere.
 

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I understand it is because this is a freak event for Texas but enjoy the meme.
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Here is some opinion from the Wall Street Journal about the complete failure of the Texas power grid to keep up with demand during the recent cold snap. As usual with WSJ editorials, the opinion is backed up with solid facts and clear explanations. As the editorial makes clear, a system that relies too much on wind and solar simply cannot keep up with power demand under weather conditions that are unusual but not at all unprecedented.

Texas Spins Into the Wind: An electricity grid that relies on renewables also needs nuclear or coal power.​

By The Editorial Board
Updated Feb. 17, 2021

While millions of Texans remain without power for a third day, the wind industry and its advocates are spinning a fable that gas, coal and nuclear plants—not their frozen turbines—are to blame. PolitiFact proclaims “Natural gas, not wind turbines, main driver of Texas power shortage.” Climate-change conformity is hard for the media to resist, but we don’t mind. So here are the facts to cut through the spin.

Texas energy regulators were already warning of rolling blackouts late last week as temperatures in western Texas plunged into the 20s, causing wind turbines to freeze. Natural gas and coal-fired plants ramped up to cover the wind power shortfall as demand for electricity increased with falling temperatures.

Some readers have questioned our reporting Wednesday ("The Political Making of a Texas Power Outage") that wind’s share of electricity generation in Texas plunged to 8% from 42%. How can that be, they wonder, when the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (Ercot) has reported that it counts on wind to meet only 10% of its winter capacity.

Ercot’s disclosure is slippery. Start with the term “capacity,” which means potential maximum output. This is different than actual power generation. Texas has a total winter capacity of about 83,000 megawatts (MW) including all power sources. Total power demand and generation, however, at their peak are usually only around 57,000 MW. Regulators build slack into the system.

Texas has about 30,000 MW of wind capacity, but winds aren’t constant or predictable. Winds this past month have generated between about 600 and 22,500 MW. Regulators don’t count on wind to provide much more than 10% or so of the grid’s total capacity since they can’t command turbines to increase power like they can coal and gas plants.

Wind turbines at times this month have generated more than half of the Texas power generation, though this is only about a quarter of the system’s power capacity. Last week wind generation plunged as demand surged. Fossil-fuel generation increased and covered the supply gap. Thus between the mornings of Feb. 7 and Feb. 11, wind as a share of the state’s electricity fell to 8% from 42%, according to the Energy Information Administration (EIA).

Gas-fired plants produced 43,800 MW of power Sunday night and coal plants chipped in 10,800 MW—about two to three times what they usually generate at their peak on any given winter day—after wind power had largely vanished. In other words, gas and coal plants held up in the frosty conditions far better than wind turbines did.

It wasn’t until temperatures plunged into the single digits early Monday morning that some conventional power plants including nuclear started to have problems, which was the same time that demand surged for heating. Gas plants also ran low on fuel as pipelines froze and more was diverted for heating.

“It appears that a lot of the generation that has gone offline today has been primarily due to issues on the natural gas system,” Electric Reliability Council of Texas senior director Dan Woodfin said Tuesday. The wind industry and its friends are citing this statement as exoneration. But note he used the word “today.” Most wind power had already dropped offline last week.

Gas generation fell by about one-third between late Sunday night and Tuesday, but even then was running two to three times higher than usual before the Arctic blast. Gas power nearly made up for the shortfall in wind, though it wasn’t enough to cover surging demand.

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Between 12 a.m. on Feb. 8 and Feb. 16, wind power plunged 93% while coal increased 47% and gas 450%, according to the EIA. Yet the renewable industry and its media mouthpieces are tarring gas, coal and nuclear because they didn’t operate at 100% of their expected potential during the Arctic blast even though wind turbines failed nearly 100%.

The policy point here is that an electricity grid that depends increasingly on subsidized but unreliable wind and solar needs baseload power to weather surges in demand. Natural gas is crucial but it also isn’t as reliable as nuclear and coal power.

Politicians and regulators don’t want to admit this because they have been taking nuclear and coal plants offline to please the lords of climate change. But the public pays the price when blackouts occur because climate obeisance has made the grid too fragile. We’ve warned about this for years, and here we are.




 
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No way Teddy's ass was going to freeze off when the warm beaches of Cancun was a flight away. When the going gets tough, Cruz gets out:
Frost particles on the testicles are for the plebes, not Teddy
 
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