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General Gonad said:
I am willing to bet that the majority of hobbyists do this for a short while and then get jaded. Eventually, most SPs and clients in any five year cycle will leave - and will never return.

I've been jaded for 3 years. The only reason i'm still around and dabble is due to the friendships i've made over the years and i take every opportunity i can to come and spend some time with my friends whenever they happen to visit Mtl. Why do i still dabble if i'm jaded? Mother nature calling, boredom, and need for female company. Sure, i have lady friends that are non-sps in several areas of the country, but i don't see them as often as i'd like to due to the fact we reside long distances from one another. Which is why, at the end, most of my 'dabbling' now occurs on last-minute decisions and i don't plan ahead anymore. Four to six years ago, i was a planning fanatic. Life was way different back then and this included Doc's.
 

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Recently I went out on my first non-hobby date in six months. It was a strange experience for me, I had to retrive those social skills I haven't used for while, but I think was good for me.


I hope you were a perfect gentleman and did not ask her if she had any restrictions..LOL!:p I do not know if it's me but sometimes I feel like some of the ladies working as SPs are way more interesting to be with than the so-called 'normal' ladies out there. Again, it's not just about sex, they're just funner to be with. (I know, I am not married to them!:rolleyes: )

Recently I went out on my first non-hobby date in six months. It was a strange experience for me, I had to retrive those social skills I haven't used for while, but I think was good for me.

I like the no-strings attached freedom of a SP/client relationship, the great sex, but I sometimes wonder how long I can live this lifestyle...

Sometimes I wonder what is more addictive the board or the SP. They go hand in hand in re-enforcing the desire. At some point the dis-advantages will out-weigh the advantages...

Like GG I think I'm at a crossroads also...

Only you know when you've had enough. If you live and breath Merb and SPs all day long, you probably need to take a step back. Did I just write that? LOL!:p Look in the fucking mirror GG!!!

As for me, I can't go to bed at night without giving Karma a kiss.;) Unfortunately, Gia doesn't post here so I can't give her a kiss too...I guess I'll have to wait till Friday evening!:p

GG
 
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We need a challenge...

I think they're more interesting casue they are a "sure thing". They are probably "funner to be with" because we are paying them to be "funner to be with"..where's the challenge in that after awhile....

I agree with you and I disagree with you. I honestly feel that some - not all - of these ladies are a lot more interesting than the 'real' women out there. Maybe it has to do with the occupation or the freedom they enjoy or maybe it's that they have been exposed to a lot at an early age. I don't know. All I can tell you is that I would date a Gia, a Karma, a Samy an Emely any day even if I knew they were once SPs. Maybe it wouldn't be as fun, maybe it would be funner...who knows?

But I also agree that us men need a challenge. If I were single, I would need to find a lady that I need to chase. I love the chase - it's probably the best part of any relationship.

GG
 
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Recently I went out on my first non-hobby date in six months. It was a strange experience for me, I had to retrive those social skills I haven't used for while, but I think was good for me.

About 3 years ago, i went out and wound up meeting an old friend from the past who drove my car home and then decided to spend the night. The next morning, she had to leave since her daughters would probably be wondering where their mother was if she wasn't there when they woke up. Well, after she got dressed and was ready to leave, i told her to wait. I got up, put on my robe, and began to look for something. Yes, i hadn't slept much, to be honest, and i kept pacing around looking for something. She finally asked me what the hell i was looking for. "The enveloppe", i said. "What enveloppe?", she asked. She looked at me like i was from Mars or something. It then hit me that i had very likely spent too much time in Mtl over the past couple of years and not enough time back home socializing and trying my luck at the discos like in the old days. That's when i realized that i needed to start getting a life......there i was looking for enveloppes that weren't there and forgetting for a moment that the girl i had slept with was no sp and had never been one.
 
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General Gonad

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looking for enveloppes...bad sign...

Doc Holliday said:
That's when i realized that i needed to start getting a life......there i was looking for enveloppes that weren't there and forgetting for a moment that the girl i had slept with was no sp and had never been one.

Doc,

If that isn't a sign, I don't know what is!

GG

P.S. I better log off before Karma reminds me it's past my bedtime!:D
 

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That said, I know that I have, and Doc has as well, developed relationships with working girls that extend well beyond their work life. We've helped them with personal issues in any number of ways that I won't go into here and, in some cases, developed long term personal relationships. These relationships, however, despite the fact that we may still be having "intimate" contact with them, come from caring for them as people and are in no way long term romantic affairs.

Regnad,

Typically when people help others they do not need to publicly state it - they just do it. There is no need for public adulation when one truly feels for another individual and gives without expecting a thing in return. This is a selfless act that speaks for itself and should remain a private act between you and the other person.

Also, spending hours on the board each day, while not recommended, is not dangerous. The danger is letting your heart go when you know you are not capable of fulfilling the other person the way she deserves to be fulfilled. The danger is deluding yourself into believing you can in any way, shape or form.

GG
 
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Guys,

Forget about the distinction between SPs and other women in our lives for a moment. For me, if I become friends with any woman, SP or otherwise, and regardless of how attracted I am to her, there will be a certain hesitancy or reluctance to pursue anything sexual due to the possibility of injuring the friendship. In fact there are many women in my life with whom I have platonic relationships and to whom I am very attracted, and I often wonder what I would do if a seduction was attempted. I believe depending on how strong the friendship is, I would probably resist the seduction.

Of course, the reverse situation also occurs where you start out as strangers having sex, and become friends. In those situations, it's a little bit different because the friendship is usually built upon something other than the sex, if it is a meaningful friendship. In some cases, the sex may not even continue, but the friendship will. But where the friendship precedes the sex, I really think it is a difficult thing. And for this reason it is sometimes a good idea to have the sex first while you are still strangers, and "get it out of the way", so to speak.
 

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EagerBeaver said:
In fact there are many women in my life with whom I have platonic relationships and to whom I am very attracted, and I often wonder what I would do if a seduction was attempted. I believe depending on how strong the friendship is, I would probably resist the seduction.

Care to introduce me to some of your platonic friends? I wouldn't mind being a pinch-hitter for you with some of them, if you want me to. :)

I do understand your position on possibly hurting a friendship if you attempt to seduce or get seduced by your lady friend(s). However, the way i see it, i'd rather find out now if there are any possibilities of intimacy instead of spending the rest of my life wondering about it and telling myself 'what if?' I blew too many chances in the past with some girls that i considered best friends whom i easily could have fallen in love with (if i wasn't careful) and today, they live at the other end of the world and we're barely in touch with one another. Sadly, i'll spend the rest of my life wondering 'what if?' and in the present, i want to keep these questions to a minimum. However, this is easier said than done. :rolleyes:
 

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EagerBeaver said:
In some cases, the sex may not even continue, but the friendship will.


EB,

It sounds like my marriage!:D But I like your idea of having sex first - "to get it out of the way." Too bad I did not try that line with Gia.:rolleyes: Anyways, she is a cool babe and one smart cookie.;) I look forward to meeting her again some day.

GG
 
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