Know what fellas? I really like a girl...

[Halloween Mike]

... wich is not an SP... LOL

Some of you knowns i have been in school since october. 1 week after the beginning a girl joined our class. I know some people in the group didn't like her, i have witness lots of trash talk, and some of these guys got kicked out around 1 month ago. Me i am the kind of guy to never choose sides, never get involved... so i have been getting friendly with her since those guys left, mostly because i used to join them in the school "midi hours" when they got in there van to smoke weed... even if not smoking myself lol... and after that i spent more time in the caféteria with her and another guy and more our classes where going on, more i was getting chummey chummey with her...

As time got by, i change places in school, because like i said some room opened up in the back, so i was just beside her, and we have become friends, at least in school. I used to team up up with a budy i got friendly with first day of school but as time got by i alternate between them, and more or less lately more teaming up with her as she is close to me. First i was asking her, latest times she asked me.

We started dining at the nearby restaurant too eventually, the first time she asked me if i wanted to go, then it was sometimes i asked her, sometimes she did.

She was with a dude when she joined school, but during our last diner at the restaurant she mention it was going to crap... and later that evening texted me she was "celibataire" Since then i don't know much what to think. We have been exchanging texts and i have been subtile about maybe doing something in the christmas time, but she is kinda far from my home... around 40 mins of car or something... And i don't have a car...

January 6 we starts school again, but for only one week. I dunno what i should do... I have her phone number, we are keeping contact trough texts, but i dunno should i try a move, a more obvious move?

Damn sometimes i wish girls would be just as easy to understand as my online games... LOL

She knowns i go to mtl to do parties and such... she may know about my hobbying if i can say, i was never straigh forward to her, but i did mention MTL a few time... Lately i kinda tell her i was kinda getting tired of this, wich is actually true... and i would like to settle down. She lives at a place where it cost not much, what in french we call HLM, and i could even move there since she said there is open spots. I dunno, it comes to me at a surprise... since she left her boyfriend, i have been thinking a lot about her.

Its been a while, maybe 2-3 weeks but she tried to match me with a friend of her.... results where not great, we texted but we didn't had much points in common, but somehow i think if she wanted to match me with a close friend of her, she must have think i was a nice guy? She had a boyfriend at that time...

Anyway... im thinking about inviting her to the restaurant one more time, maybe trying a bit harder to see if there is hope... but i feel like im getting false ideas once again... Any good councelling would be apreciated.

 

[somebodymtl]

Wow, Mike. First of all, congrats! I congrat people every time they have feelings towards someone, regardless of the situation. Because I believe true feelings are precious and deserve the appreciation of everybody.

However, I'm not quite sure about this one based one one single reason: she tried to set you up with a friend of hers, which is a big red sign to me. IMHO, she thinks you are a good guy, but that's it. But who am I kidding, I'm not very good with women either so my sense may be false.

What I suggest is to stay where you are a bit longer to get a better idea of where you are in this relationship. Even if you can't help approaching her closer, please take it slowly and cautiously.

Two cents from a guy not very rich himself (bad analogy but hopefully you get what I mean).

 

[str8flash]

However, I'm not quite sure about this one based one one single reason: she tried to set you up with a friend of hers, which is a big red sign to me.

And you Mike would you want to try to match one of youre friend with her ? Don't think so.

 

[roof2013]

Be honest,nothing ventured nothing gained

 

[oldbutartful]

Mike go for it if you don't try you will never know, and you might get your best Christmas Present ever. Just tell her you like her and you want to be more than just classmates.

 

[SylvainP]

Mike, I would like that something like that happens to me. I would say you can try to find if something serious can happen for both of you. I know you can be subtle and respectful. Good luck!

 

[PSEfreak]

Be honest,nothing ventured nothing gained

^ This ^

Talk to her straight, be honest. Let her know what your thinking and how you feel. You'd be surprised what the results may be.

 

[longtimers]

Boysz!

Should Mike tell her about his secret escapades in Montreal ?
My guess is that the less she know the better are his chances.

Sharp your hunting skill Mike
Longtimer

 

[Merlot]

Any good councelling would be apreciated.

HM,

Better to have finality than regret. Be honest...and never end up regretting what you didn't say...NEVER!

Good luck,

Merlot

 

[gan]

Yo Mike, I have heard you say you are a big guy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7PAYhmoKkA

This is a fun video of a guy dressed in a fat suit picking up chicas. Go for it bro. Just do what this guy did. Brutally honest, without apology. Own that shit yo.

 

[Trenus]

Boysz!

Should Mike tell her about his secret escapades in Montreal ?

No.. Lol. That's the worse thing Mike can do. Most women don't understand this and view it as degrading or desperate.

From what I read, he's in a tough position because he dated her friend. It's good on the one hand, because she clearly trusts him, but it's not that good on another hand because it may communicate that she sees him as a friend.

But that possible friendly perception could be changed.

In order to move forward, Mike has to present himself as a funny, fun, confident guy, slightly mysterious, and possible boyfriend material. He has to arouse her curiousity about him and has to intrigue her.

She needs to get a feeling of, I want to get to know this guy further, because he seems interestingly challenging and there's something about him, but I can't put my finger on it.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Well she gave my number to her friends, wich we texted for a couple days but it ended up like that. She took news lately and i mentioned to her i doubt this could work out, setting is too "unpersonal" if i could say and i tried to gave hint who the best person may be.

When she tried the matching, she was in couple, wich she is not anymore now... wich i think play a big difference.

In any case, i can't stay longer where i am, cause its ending plain and simple after the first week back from the hollidays, but i think i will make a move, and who knows, worst that could happen would be she say no and it end right there...

As for my little trips, she more or less knows, well not sure about the paying for sex part, but she knows i go to MTL, have parties with friends, raunchy stuff happen, i had my solid gold cap right at school too (lol) but hey back then i didn't know i would be interested in her. It was not a wow thing, we became friends and started to go to dinner together and all, and i realized lately i really like her.

 

[UncleBob]

Why don't you invite her for a special trip to MTL during Holiday, that could end up to Solid Gold ?
You're pals could join as well and help you out to make things happen... :eyebrows:

 

[hungry101]

Mike - stop all the talk about raunchy-Montreal and raunchy stuff. Do not assume she knows you are a hobbyist. If she knew you were a hobbyist you would have not got this far. Come up iwth a cover for going to Montreal. Avoid statements such as "Before you all the girl I have ever been with were pros, ya know what I mean...." Do not bring up escorts.

Your a big guy ? - Time to upgrade your wardrobe and get in shape. Learn to Drape yourself in loose fitting black. You know, the button shirt is unbuttoned and untucked with a black designer t-shirt underneath. Wear dress shoes that are more like a boot with thicker soles and the thickest belt you can get through your belt loops...the thicker the better. Those thin belts look like the string that holds the pot roast together. Meanwhile start getting in shape. Have some motivation for the free sex (no sex is free you will pay in other ways).

No movies for awhile. Do you know a cool place where you can hang out where there is music (but you can still talk) and have drinks and maybe some light table-fare. I would save a concert or an event that she would really like to go to like a hockey game for date 2. (Hockey could be date 1 if she really like this). Find out what she likes and look for topics of mutual interest to talk about. Learn to be a good listener. Also, add plenty of her favorite alcohol (but you must stay under control of course).

when all else fails, find clever ways to complement her and tell her how beautiful she is. Woman never tire of this.

We all hobby for different reasons. Me? I am a womanizer from way back but I am too fat and too old and way too leveraged to get what I want these days. Today there is no amount of silver tongue talking I can do to get into a young girls skirt. At least any girl that I want to get into anymore. Renting from agencies is now my favorite and most logical option, where I have the greatest chance of success...I still use the term "chance" because even the hobby is a crap shoot. Anyway, I know how to play the game.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Well its kinda complicated, as i don't drive(she do) , so i can't invite her as i would like to... I was thinking about inviting her for diner once the vacations are over and see what happen. During the lunch hour. Another problem is she is kinda far from where i am, as i mentioned... her village is like at the limit of what the school territory cover. But its a solid 35-40 mins of car.

As for what i am looking for, actually i am interest in her as a potential girlfriend. Certainly not just fuck friends... And i already mentioned that if i would get in a relationship, i would let go the hobbying part for sure, without any regret at all.

As for changing my style all the way... nah, its not something i think is good. She knows how i am, that i like wearing metal band shirts and such, would i suddenly come to school with a Gino look, that would just look awfully weird. Of course loosing weigh is always in plan, but gosh its hard.

In any case all i can do is wait til the christmas time is done, see what happen and hope for the best... but well like i said, i have only 1 week left.

 

[CockAsian69]

Mike, my two cents:

Rule #1 DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE HOBBY!!!

Honestly, not a great thing if she had set you up with a friend of hers. It means she has no designs on you, does not think of you in that way, has friend zoned you in a big way.

With that in mind, still, nothing ventured nothing gained. If you do not try, you will never know.

Worst case scenario with no car, rent one for a day.

Rule #2 DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE HOBBY!!!

Good luck!

CA OUT!

 

[joelcairo]

Give it a shot HM. If not, you'll always regret it. Don't change your basic nature but be aware of what's good and bad about yourself and emphasize the good while working to improve the bad. If you start to find reasons not to pursue something (example: no car) you'll never do anything in life...but obstacles can always be overcome. If everything works out, then great - and even if it doesn't you'll have gained some experience and probably made improvements in your life in any case.

As for your concern about your weight, best is to exercise daily (alternating strength and cardio) because dieting alone won't work. Besides, exercise - although you'll find it tough at the start - quickly becomes a routine and then it actually becomes enjoyable.

Follow the good tips given here by other posters. And - oh yeah - DON'T talk about hobbying.

Good luck.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I am a little confused. Where does this leave Kate of Good Girls in the grand scheme of things? Is she going to be neglected?

 

[spacecadet]

HM, it seems you keep trying to make excuses as to why you can't ask her out. She lives far, you don't have a car, the village, the this , the that ....

It seems from previous reviews you've made, that you had zero problems getting around when you had to meet SP's ... Things like, buses, trains etc.

I know you might be terrified at the thought of a real date as it must be a very long time for you but you can't make excuses and then live a life of regrets. Just go for it.. Ask her out and make every possible plan on how to get to where she is or get her to where you are. Don't wait til after the holidays cause who knows what might happen by then..
As far as appearance, i understand that she's seen you in heavy metal t shirts and strip club caps but ....... If you do make it to get a date with her, you do need to tidy up the appearance no matter how accepting you think she is. you don't have to go total GINO as you call it, but yes a nice clean shirt and pair of pants with trendy shoes always leave an impression. She will know that you made an effort and will really make you score points with her.
Also plan what you're going to do, like the whole evening ! Don't leave anything to chance or ask her what she'd like to do. A woman loves a man who takes charge. And preferably pick something where you can talk and get to know each other. Your conversation should also be a little different than the usual one when you have lunch with. COMPLIMENTS WILL GET YOU EVERYWHERE ! but subtle ones. Don't go overboard on the cheesiness. Ask questions about her.. Let the evening be all about her.

In the end, be yourself but better ! Show her there's a side to you she hasnt seen. A side that trades in a strip club cap for a nice shirt and gentlemanly manners.
PS : no talk about strippers, SP's , porn stars or the shiny new weapon you acquired on WOW or wtv gamers play these days.

Just my advice and good luck.

 

[MtlNewbie]

HM, great thread! I'm happy for you even if some of your comments cause an uproar. LOL!

I didn't read all the posts but I'm glad to see the female members giving you advice, that's probably the most important advice to take.

My 2 cents, first of all, you're open about your hobbying but seriously, do not mention it. It might not be a deal breaker but I think for regular women, it could be a dealbreaker. Just don't take the chance. Second, it's a bit weird that she started off in a couple and set you up with a friend but that may well have played into your advantage, so she could get to know you in a friendship way. The fact that she even told you once she was single should be a good sign. But make sure you don't get friendzoned! The best thing to do is just make a move and find out, it's better than wondering and losing sleep over it. The thing I've found is that some girls can give you all the signs and then when you make the move, she'll be like "what are you talking about?". This has happened to me repeatedly. Also as a guy, our brains will convince of whatever we want as well.