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Natalia @ Angel Escorts. **LATEST HEALTH INFO**

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There was some talk last summer about Natalia maybe having an STD. I really don't want to go into any of the background regarding the start of this talk, the who, what, when, where. The important information is that there were rumours that Natalia had an STD. I have to admit that I was guilty in warning some guys that she may have a health issue, when they would ask me about her.

I have spoken with Tony a lot about this issue the past few months and he assured me he saw clean tests and even sent her to his personal doctor to make sure she was healthy.
I had even spoken to her and she swore that the rumours were not true and said she had tests to show it. I then thought that if she really was clean, then it is a pretty terrible thing for her to have this hanging over her head. I was one guy who made sure people were aware of the rumours, thinking I was doing everyone a favour, by keeping them informed. Now that there was some serious doubt I felt I had to find out, at least for myself, what was the story. Because I participated in perpetuating the rumour, I felt I had to.

I talked to Tony last week and said if Natalia could bring recent test results and be willing to show me her ID, to verify the tests were legitimate, then I would want to spend an hour with her and would include in my review what I had seen. He talked with Natalia and she agreed to bring her most recent tests as well as show me her ID. The date was set for today. I just want to mention there was no incentive or discount of any kind. I payed the regular $220 rate and spent 25 minutes of my paid hour dealing with this.

I spoke to Natalia at length about the whole affair and this is what she showed me. I saw tests showing negative results for all the major STDs. One page for each one.
The top of each page had the clinic letterhead, along with her medicare card # and full name. They were all stamped FEB 7th and 8th, 2012. I am not an expert, but have had a number of STD tests done myself and know what they should look like. To me, they all looked very official and exactly how they should.

I did see Natalia's Driver's License and Medicare card, so that I could verify the number and name on the test result documents. They indeed matched (Her listed age is also accurate lol!) There was also a note from the doctor who performed the tests, stating that any supposed rash that she may have had on her thighs last summer, was not in any way related to Herpes. I have the doctor's name and number and Natalia told me I could call her if I wanted to verify the info. I have not done so as of yet.

So, after what I saw and seeing how extremely sincere Natalia was in her wishes to let everyone know the truth, I am personally convinced that she is clean of any STDs. I did go ahead with the session, which unfortunately was now a bit rushed because of this matter. I will be writing my review and linking this thread to it shortly.

My intention is not to necessarily convince anyone to see her or even of her health. She does not work for me, I had never met her until today and I do not benefit in any way from this. As I said earlier, I spoke to numerous guys in private about how I was pretty certain she had an STD and realized I had done so on 2nd hand information and had never spoken with Natalia directly. I felt it was the right thing to verify what I was telling people, for myself.

It is now my opinion, to all those guys I talked to, that she does not have an STD. There was a sequence of mistaken information that I received that led me to think otherwise, at the time, and I thought I was helping you guys out. I guess it was better safe than sorry, but now I have the real info and would say to any of you guys that asked, to go see her if you would like. She also is a really attractive, sweet girl and a super nympho! Review to follow.
 

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What Natalia has are 2 tiny birth marks in a very pretty part of her anatomy.
The false rumour about her supposed STD was started by a couple of real nasty individuals who tried to ruin her reputation.
I`m pleased that this attempted character assasination has now been squashed.
 

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Hello everyone,

First and foremost, I would like to thank ManApart for going above and beyond what can be expected of any hobbyist to get this situation cleared up. Every hobbyist owes you their gratitude. You are to be highly commended for your actions in this matter. I can think of no better example to illustrate the reason why we do not permit random claims and accusations to be posted against anyone, member or provider.

This situation is a perfect example of the dangers inherent in believing back channel information. It is very easy to spread rumors around and extremely difficult to get to the truth once it has started. Before anyone believes ANYTHING they get back channel, they should always consider the original source, if that source can even be determined. Even in cases where you believe you can track the source, you may find that they got the information from yet someone else. Just imagine how easy it can be to destroy the reputation of any provider or hobbyist.

I hope that this makes people think twice before believing everything they hear or read from sources that cannot provide proof to back up their claims. There is usually a good reason for this, and that is because the claims are false.

Once again, thank you ManApart for what you have done to resolve this matter.

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Lot of rumour about Natalia : Princess attitude, health issue...

The reality is that this girl is one of the top best SP of the city, a total package with a bilingual capacity, sweetheart attitude, PSE service, incredible body and cute face... And of course she doesn't have any health issue...
 

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Kudos to ManApart for his investigative work and willingness to get to the bottom of this matter.

At the end of the day, it would be silly for any hobbyist to think there isn't some amount of STI / STD circulating in the hobby. However, the key is to get yourself tested and ask agency girls when they were tested last. There's no shame in asking and it only shows you give a damn about the hobby.

MA, you've already taken a big step in locking up the 2012 Merbite of the Year Award. :thumb::thumb:
 

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...I`m pleased that this attempted character assasination has now been squashed.
...First and foremost, I would like to thank ManApart for going above and beyond what can be expected of any hobbyist to get this situation cleared up. Every hobbyist owes you their gratitude. You are to be highly commended for your actions in this matter....Once again, thank you ManApart for what you have done to resolve this matter.
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...I just want to thank MA for taking a big step to save this beautiful, Sweet Angel's reputation...Tony
Kudos to ManApart for his investigative work and willingness to get to the bottom of this matter....MA, you've already taken a big step in locking up the 2012 Merbite of the Year Award. :thumb::thumb:
Ditto. Good work, MA, thank you.
Sweetwater
 

snoodle

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i got a from her. I didnt have any problems.

That was when she was alexe at devilish
 

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i dont know anything about this situatin at all, but unless u are have previously seen the doctor for herpes or you are currently having a breakout that can be tested then a doctor has no way of knowing that u have it correct?,, if u are not having a breakout at the current time then there is no sign of it

while mod 8 is correct most of what u hear on the street is bullshit, i choose to live by better safe than sorry
 

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If its true that 40% of the adult population has, or has had HERPES...then what percent of escorts and Johns have or had Herpes?
That said, probably 95% of Agency owners would test positive for Herpes:nod:.
So John why pick on one girl out of so many?
 

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Totally agree with you. One well known sp once told me that when a girl is off the schedule for a few weeks or a month it's probably because she had an outbreak.
Or....maybe she went to detox, maybe she found a sugar daddy, maybe she found a boyfriend (or he found out), maybe she got sick of this type of work, maybe she's in love, maybe she went on a trip, maybe she got another job, maybe she's working elsewhere under another name, maybe, maybe, maybe.....so many maybes! :amen:
 

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im sure she not the only sp with herpes. Im sure there are others we could never know for sure.

Its a chance we always take. The only way to reduce risk is to ask for covered BJ.

And I hate to sound like a broken record, but if this peice of shit hypocite asshole government of ours would make prostitution legal, they could enfore that the girls get tested on a regular basis and require the agencies have that information readily available to clients. Thats the way it works in Amsterdam :smile:

then we would all be protected....but these assholes prefer to just sweep all this under the rug...
 

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If its true that 40% of the adult population has, or has had HERPES...then what percent of escorts and Johns have or had Herpes?
That said, probably 95% of Agency owners would test positive for Herpes:nod:.
So John why pick on one girl out of so many?
This is an invalid post, sorry to say. First of all numbers that high are usually from certain parts of America, maybe certain areas of Canada. Second, the sample sizes are very small and flawed. In fact, many communities you can go to and the percentage might be 2-5%. Others it may be as high as you say but I doubt it. Third, I've been using John's agency for several years. Over those years he has been all business. No small talk, pretty straight forward guy. Plus he is not a small run in the mill agency who just lost his business or something or main star. He has quite a replenishment system where good girls keep coming and going. Either to retire or go to another agency. He has no reason to belittle and single out a girl or two like this imo. We're talking about one of the pioneers of agencies in the . He's been around for like 10 years.

Can someone also give me a background on this subject. I'm not sure what's going. Did a client notice something funny on Natalia and complained. Or did they catch something after seeing her?
 

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im sure she not the only sp with herpes. Im sure there are others we could never know for sure.
She DOES NOT have herpes. This is what the thread is all about, proof that she's std-free. If i'm to trust MA's evaluation (and i do), i've seen enough proof that she's as std-free as anyone else involved with this business, sps, pimps & johns included.
 

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She DOES NOT have herpes. This is what the thread is all about, proof that she's std-free. If i'm to trust MA's evaluation (and i do), i've seen enough proof that she's as std-free as anyone else involved with this business, sps, pimps & johns included.
But John says he personally knows she told others that she did. A guy that brought her in the business and dealt with her for a long time. So who's right? To his credit as well, it's not exactly hard to make up medical notes. I know a doctor that hands Viagra "samples" like candy.
 

man77777

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Our hobby is risky. So the question for us is not who is 100% stdfree, but which SP is the less risky...

Natalia is the only SP aboutwhich we could say she is @ 80% stdfree... (20% = possibility of a false test)

If I look @ the statistics and add the fact SP are DFK and a lot of guys, the others SP are @ 20% stdfree.

So at my first question, I would answer that Natalia is now the less risky SP I know in Montréal.
 

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Hankypanky I don`t know where you get your info.
According to the CDC , 21% of American women over the age of 14 have genital (type2) herpes and 98% af all adults carry the herpes 1 virus, even though the majority never have an outbreak.
So my estimate that 95% of pimps have genital herpes is probably not that far off. :eyebrows:
And if you want background then why don`t you ask your buddy John.
And as Doc wrote ....there is now proof that she is std-free.
 

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Hankypanky I don`t know where you get your info.
According to the CDC , 21% of American women over the age of 14 have genital (type2) herpes and 98% af all adults carry the herpes 1 virus, even though the majority never have an outbreak.
So my estimate that 95% of pimps have genital herpes is probably not that far off. :eyebrows:
And if you want background then why don`t you ask your buddy John.
And as Doc wrote ....there is now proof that she is std-free.
Where do I get my info? Those percentages you throw out there like it's indisputable evidence is FLAWED. Those type of percentages are only valid if EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE ENTIRE POPULATION has been tested. They are mere estimates with a very high chance of error, known as gap. And now you tell us 98% of all adults have "herpes 1"? LOL. 98%?!?!?!?! That is just a joke. Many of those percentages are derived from active girls walking into a clinic and getting tested. Oh, look at that, 40% of the girls that came into the clinic have herpes. Well yeah, first off they are sexually active and second the reason why they come into the clinic in the first place is because they fell they might have something. So they assume well if 40% of the girls who walk in and get tested are positive, well they represent all of girls of the entire population.

And like I said, how John mentioned, that is not "proof". It is merely a piece of paper shown to MA. And, 95% of pimps of herpes but 98% of the population does. Those pimps are saints and much healthier and cleaner than the rest of us.

I'm not saying she does have it. But I'm not saying she doesn't have it either. All I'm saying is this encounter with MA doesn't prove much as test results, prescriptions etc are easy to manipulate and get a hold of through shady doctors. Plus, John brings up very good points as well.
 

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Now I`m wondering if you know how to read.
I wrote that 98% of adults carry the virus and that its in-active in the majority.
Now go back to school.
 

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it's not exactly hard to make up medical notes. I know a doctor that hands Viagra "samples" like candy.
I'm very skeptical about your claims. If they are true, i strongly suggest that this 'doctor' be reported immediately to his state or province's medical association for gross negligence & professional misconduct. At the very least, he should be stripped of his medical license.

Viagra is not a drug that should be distributed 'like candy' by a doctor. It can have very serious side-effects & cause harm to certain people with medical conditions or allergies to it.
 

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Now I`m wondering if you know how to read.
I wrote that 98% of adults carry the virus and that its in-active in the majority.
Now go back to school.
Carry the virus, have the virus, same thing. I never said they all had a breakout. Who needs school now? Especially coming from someone believing rough percentage estimates as gospel. lol.
 
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