The Bitching thread

[Charsi-baba]

Well that's always been my problem. Can't keep my mouth shut

But @envelopes , we also have to understand the bookers are the reason that we are able to see this amazing girls , they are doing something right by making the girls feel safe working under them, so we can’t just ignore that fact and give respect where it is due. Sometimes I also felt pissed at bookers when not able to book a fav , but that anger is just our projection , they probably don’t have us to have a bad time intentionally!
And also in the end , it is a meeting between 2 souls , and booker is only a human and not god. Sometimes we have to trust that maybe you are not meant to see other and any meaningful relationship can’t be forced like this . Self reflection should go hand in hand with blaming others , just what i feel not trying to impose my thoughts/beliefs on you or anyone . Cheers and cheer up man , it will he fine

 

[LC18]

I mean you mentioned having her phone number and that you book outcall. Can’t you just see her outside of her working hours? (Suppose she agrees to this)

 

[MtlGuyNow]

Bookers have good days & not so good days.
I was a regular with a fave and although I had her number she did everything through the Agency. Before she was popular booking was easy, even outcall from a popular Incall place. Never had an issue with the Booker until I was informed that (outcall) charges jumped close to the appointment. I also had to run out for cash and unbeknownst to me, many ATMs are locked nights & weekends.
Afterwards he 1/2 apologized but closed with « how lucky I was » (like Gazoo64 above) as he said most women prefer Incall.
I knew that wasn’t the case.
The Agency prefers Incall. $$
After being told « how lucky I was » I never did business with them again.

 

[Charsi-baba]

Bookers have good days & not so good days.
I was a regular with a fave and although I had her number she did everything through the Agency. Before she was popular booking was easy, even outcall from a popular Incall place. Never had an issue with the Booker until I was informed that (outcall) charges jumped close to the appointment. I also had to run out for cash and unbeknownst to me, many ATMs are locked nights & weekends.
Afterwards he 1/2 apologized but closed with « how lucky I was » (like Gazoo64 above) as he said most women prefer Incall.
I knew that wasn’t the case.
The Agency prefers Incall. $$
After being told « how lucky I was » I never did business with them again.

I think they take it strictly as a business, profit and loss has no role for feelings i guess ?

 

[envelopes]

I mean you mentioned having her phone number and that you book outcall. Can’t you just see her outside of her working hours? (Suppose she agrees to this)

Yeah she ended up just coming over last night after she was done. This works better

 

[DouMan]

Yeah she ended up just coming over last night after she was done. This works better

My friend you should maybe refrain from posting such details publicly. Most agencies frown on such practices seeing them as "double-dipping". This could really get her in trouble with the agency and with the booker already well aware, you/she really don't need any more drama. Chill out privately and enjoy.

 

[envelopes]

really don't need any more drama.

I consider this Full GFE

 

[DouMan]

I consider this Full GFE

Cool, so then I guess she knows what you are posting here and agrees. Enjoy, and best of luck to both of you.

 

[AirBo]

Question of the day: Who's the predator and who's the prey?

I've been reading stuff here in the last 24h that leads me to ask this question.

Before I keep going, I know that most SP-Client meetings / relationships can be qualified as "sane", but some obviously aren't.

• Any SP with a major hard drug problem is a prey. Clients who indulge in their very open-minded services at often ridiculously low prices, knowing perfectly well how fucked up they are and that they need the money for their next fix, are predators.
• Any client with a lack of emotional stability, or poor self-esteem, or who simply falls in love, is a prey. SPs who let their clients go broke by spending all their money over them, knowing perfectly well that they might end up with major financial problems, are predators.

It goes both ways.

 

[LC18]

Any SP with a major hard drug problem is a prey. Clients who indulge in their very open-minded services at often ridiculously low prices, knowing perfectly well how fucked up they are and that they need the money for their next fix, are predators.

I know some clients actively seek SPs with either drug or alcohol addictions. They even supply them with what they need sometimes in lieu of an actual payment. I think there’s a special place in hell for them.

 

[LC18]

Any client with a lack of emotional stability, or poor self-esteem, or who simply falls in love, is a prey. SPs who let their clients get broke by spending all their money over them, knowing perfectly well that they might end up with major financial problems, are predators.

That’s not very ethical. I know one of my good friends stopped seeing a regular because of that. He was slightly obsessed and would book her every single day everytime she toured his city. When she realized that he was neglecting his child support payments to pay for her services, she cut him off.

Some SPs would see no issues with that because “that’s not their problems” “he’s an adult”.

 

[Thane]

That’s not very ethical. I know one of my good friends stopped seeing a regular because of that. He was slightly obsessed and would book her every single day everytime she toured his city. When she realized that he was neglecting his child support payments to pay for her services, she cut him off.

Some SPs would see no issues with that because “that’s not their problems” “he’s an adult”.

She did well to do that! You can be an adult but have the maturity of an adolescent who can't perceive and understand the long-term consequences of their acts, control their emotions, and behave rationally.

 

[LC18]

There’s a semi-well-known case of a sugar baby who was the mistress of a married man for a few months. He used the money that was for his daughter’s education to fund his sugar baby’s lifestyle. When his wife found out, she k!lled him.

If you’re curious about the case: https://www.pasadenastarnews.com/2010/03/08/phillips-ranch-murder-case-goes-to-jury/amp/

 

[AirBo]

When his wife found out, she k!lled him.

"Consider this a divorce" - Arnold Shwarzenegger (Total Recall)

 

[Fradi]

That’s not very ethical. I know one of my good friends stopped seeing a regular because of that. He was slightly obsessed and would book her every single day everytime she toured his city. When she realized that he was neglecting his child support payments to pay for her services, she cut him off.

Some SPs would see no issues with that because “that’s not their problems” “he’s an adult”.

That was nice of her and it probably eased her conscience, but I doubt it made any difference for the child support payments.
Someone like that will just find another SP to spend it on, scumbags like that don’t change.

Same goes for clients that seek out drug addicts and alcoholics, when you exploit other people’s weaknesses you really are a predator and a lousy human being.

 

[envelopes]

Question of the day: Who's the predator and who's the prey?

I've been reading stuff here in the last 24h that leads me to ask this question.

Before I keep going, I know that most SP-Client meetings / relationships can be qualified as "sane", but some obviously aren't.

• Any SP with a major hard drug problem is a prey. Clients who indulge in their very open-minded services at often ridiculously low prices, knowing perfectly well how fucked up they are and that they need the money for their next fix, are predators.
• Any client with a lack of emotional stability, or poor self-esteem, or who simply falls in love, is a prey. SPs who let their clients go broke by spending all their money over them, knowing perfectly well that they might end up with major financial problems, are predators.

It goes both ways.

I am prey

I know some clients actively seek SPs with either drug or alcohol addictions. They even supply them with what they need sometimes in lieu of an actual payment. I think there’s a special place in hell for them.

I got a post deleted by the mods for pointing this out about an unnamed member doing this (and worse).


I wonder if I'll get banned for bringing this up again.

 

[AirBo]

I am prey

I've been there before. Definitely your story inspired my post, but if I search Merb a bit, there certainly are plenty other similar stories. Seeing someone 30 times in one month in hopes of falling out of love though, that stuck with me LOL But hey, if you have the financial means, all power to you. You don't strike me as someone who would go broke, so I took what you said as a figure of speech, but it must have tear some kind of a hole in your finances.

My point (and LC's, I guess), simply being: If you're in love head over heels for her but it's not reciprocated, she should, as a descent person, try to calm you down a bit.

Being in love is a nice feeling but it can be destructive

 

[envelopes]

I've been there before. Definitely your story inspired my post, but if I search Merb a bit, there certainly are plenty other similar stories. Seeing someone 30 times in one month in hopes of falling out of love though, that stuck with me LOL But hey, if you have the financial means, all power to you. You don't strike me as someone who would go broke, so I took what you said as a figure of speech, but it must have tear some kind of a hole in your finances.

My point (and LC's, I guess), simply being: If you're in love head over heels for her but it's not reciprocated, she should, as a descent person, try to calm you down a bit.

Being in love is a nice feeling but it can be destructive

Very true. I wonder how often SPs will stop their clients who get obsessed.

For me, before, it was clear that it was not reciprocated, so I was just having fun it's easier to have a $ limit and walk away when it's clearly not reciprocated. Kind of like going to a casino and limiting yourself to $X and walking away when it's gone. (Unfortunately, it's gotten a little blurry since Saturday, now it's a little dangerous.)

 

[AirBo]

Thought of the day: I need more money... a lot more money...

 

[Charsi-baba]

Thought of the day: I need more money... a lot more money...

SPs are the one who are doing it for money. We do it for love! Men make money only for love otherwise I would be smoking chillum in machu pichhu.