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    U.S. Supreme Court Rules 9-0 That Police Need Search Warrant to Check Your Cellphone

    http://us.cnn.com/2014/06/25/justice...html?hpt=hp_t1

    A few of you guys have told me you allowed border authorities to check your cellphone. There is no reason to do so. Tell them they need a search warrant and refuse based on this decision if you are a US resident.

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    ...then they will tell you to kindly go sit over in the corner area so you can wait until they get one, it might only take a few hours, no worries.

    If you have nothing to hide why not just let them look, if you do get another phone for travel or delete what could get you in hot water.

    I've got a buddy who used to do this job many years ago, they can make your life misserable.
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    And after all this, when they realize you really didn't have anything to hide they can probably arrest you for wasting their time.

    By the way, I'm not sure if this decision applies to border control. They already have permission to search you and all your stuff thoroughly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deboner View Post
    If you have nothing to hide why not just let them look
    This news is not for the people who have nothing to hide, it is for those who DO have something to hide. The US Supreme Court has said 9-0 if you have something to hide, you get to hide it.

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    Gents,

    I have to agree that not letting them look into your cell phone will probably get you into a long delay and isn't worth it unless there is something to hide. Even if you had a list of agencies there isn't much they can do...YET. A number of years ago I forgot I had a couple of agency names and numbers on my notes, which they saw after pulling me over because I was driving a rental car, and they did nothing. They didn't even ask about it. Still if the proposed law goes into affect targeting clients your phone better be clean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siocnarf View Post
    By the way, I'm not sure if this decision applies to border control. They already have permission to search you and all your stuff thoroughly.
    I doubt you can plead U.S. Constitutional rights when trying to enter Canada. It would seem that once you go to a Canadian border guard intending to enter that country, Canadian law applies.

    Good luck,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlot View Post
    Even if you had a list of agencies there isn't much they can do...YET.
    You mean some people actually put an agency name in their phone as Good Girls ( escorts may not be included )????? Safer to put in Mike's pizza, Jessy's antiques, Martins plumbing etc or if an indy just put in her name.
    As for border patrol ( same goes for cops ) it is best not to piss them off if you want to leave soon.
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    I agree with Sol,how can they know if it is not a real Lily ,it won't flash escort on your screen?
    It is not as if they will call all your contacts to see which is legit? Make up a last name...
    I once went to QE and my ate had left the key with ''Lily Royale'' on the envelop loll,do the same in your contacts list,be creative
    but do not do like this guy I saw a few years ago you forgot his code and ended calling me at a very inconvenient moment asking who was ''Lionel?????""...
    took some burlesque exchanges before I remembered him and he realized Lionel was Lily from 3 years ago...lol

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    Don't get it at all at all..

    When the new laws kick in( and they will Kick In 100% ), you all better smarten up and quickly. Having stored numbers of prostitution agencies when crossing the border is not very smart, no matter how creative. Get a Gmail account (they are Free). Put all your contact information in your gmail account and you can look up the information quickly using your smart phone. If you don't have a smart phone in this day and age, you shouldn't be seeing prostitutes. And for those out of town , don't cry about roaming charges. You can also use wi-fi hot spots.

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    Too many people here worry about nothing, most will have ulcers before older age. If you put in your phone Hazel Gretchen 450-555-1212 in your phone and she is a SP only you will know. People worry about the new proposed escort law and am guessing they are losing sleep over it. Relax, live your day and all will be good. No use having a dark cloud over your head when the sun is shining.
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    Excellent post. Excellent perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol Tee Nutz View Post
    Too many people here worry about nothing, most will have ulcers before older age. If you put in your phone Hazel Gretchen 450-555-1212 in your phone and she is a SP only you will know. People worry about the new proposed escort law and am guessing they are losing sleep over it. Relax, live your day and all will be good. No use having a dark cloud over your head when the sun is shining.

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    I just fail to see the connection between a smart phone and meeting sp? Cell yes but unless smartphone have sexy apps I am not aware of?
    Pool guy? Pray tell? lol

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    Hello people,

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol Tee Nutz View Post
    If you put in your phone Hazel Gretchen 450-555-1212 in your phone and she is a SP only you will know.
    You are mostly right. I still wouldn't want an agency or escort phone number on my phone. Surely the police have data systems that can punch up what those numbers are instantly. After having had them look into some numbers I know what they get back is a lot more than the name of who the number matches with. While they may not even bother checking, but some zealous officer might or they might see something by chance. We all have have had very unlucky experiences where the odds of that happening meant it shouldn't have, but it did. Does anyone want to be one of the unlucky few with another bad story of something they never thought would happen to tell.

    What I always do, as stated many times, is send all the info to myself by email. That cuts out any risk, unless one is foolish enough to be logged in when an officer looks at it.

    Good luck,

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    I started this thread mainly because people have stuff on their phone which they believe is harmless and if it is voluntarily surrendered could form the basis for something, even making you a witness against someone else.

    A few years ago I had a civil case which settled rapidly when I spoke to a young lady who was a witness that the police failed to identify. She was a coworker of the plaintiff who had started a very serious disturbance at a restaurant after being fired, which led to a brawl and criminal charges. I tracked down the co-worker the police never talked to, and she told me that the coworker had destroyed property of the restaurant and then sent her a text message asking her not to speak to the police about it. And she didn't.

    This of course is obstruction of justice, and tampering with a witness. Needless to say I subpoenaed the cellphone records and as soon as I did, the case settled. Presto! Only needed to push that one button.

    The point is that what is inocuous to you may not be inocuous to the police conducting an investigation you know shit-all about. So the US Supreme Court ruling protects those who know they have something to hide, but it also protects those who don't know that they may have something to hide.

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    Why let them look if you have a constitutional right? When they ask the question "Mind if I look in that trunk?" or "mind if I check your cell phone?" Ask to see the warrant. End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungry101 View Post
    Why let them look if you have a constitutional right?
    Those who hold no value for their privacy rights are doomed to eventually lose them. We see from some responses in this thread that the expectation of privacy in the face of government intrusion has slowly eroded. You have to decide whether you want to be the government's gerbil or your own fucking man. That is really the choice that is being made here.

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