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    Exclamation Swingers and sex clubs are now legal...

    The Supreme Court allowed group sex and partner swapping in sex club.

    See this link for more info: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Law/2005...361650-cp.html

    Transcript of the judgment:
    http://www.lexum.umontreal.ca/csc-sc...cc080.wpd.html
    Last edited by ops_com; 12-21-2005 at 02:04 PM. Reason: Bad title...

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    What are the implications of this court ruling?

    Does that mean that there can be live sex shows now?

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    I'll review them with you

    Hey Bruce34, I'm in to reviewing with them with you (Phin/Spin pretty close),
    Actually heading to such a place on Friday night - will post a review for all over the weekend

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    **************. Tu va trouver que de penetrer dans un club echangiste peut- etre asser difficile sinon impossible pour un homme seul Certain de ces clubs vont laisser entrer des hommes seuls certain soirs Et le fait de pouvoir y penetrer ne te garantit rien personne est obliger de rien faire Selon moi un homme seul a plus de chance dans un club de danseuse

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    La liberté l'emporte

    Quote Originally Posted by voyageur11
    **************. Tu va trouver que de penetrer dans un club echangiste peut- etre asser difficile sinon impossible pour un homme seul Certain de ces clubs vont laisser entrer des hommes seuls certain soirs Et le fait de pouvoir y penetrer ne te garantit rien personne est obliger de rien faire Selon moi un homme seul a plus de chance dans un club de danseuse
    En effet, l'arrêt de la Cour suprême consacre la liberté de la personne. Liberté de consentir à des activités sexuelles disons… inusitées, tout comme la liberté de s'y refuser. Les décisions rendues aujourd'hui par la Cour suprême constituent un important pas en avant pour les libertés individuelles, à commencer par le droit de disposer de sa propre personne. Le droit de dire non se trouve renforcé.

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    Question Query.

    A bartender mentioned the L'orage to me my last time in Montreal but said you had to know somebody to find out where it is.

    Is it secretive/selective as to who gets in?

    How should you dress?

    How does one bring up the subject of whether or not someone would like to engage in intimate activity?

    Is it considered insulting to decline an invitation to have "relations"?
    Last edited by HonestAbe; 12-22-2005 at 08:57 AM.
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    getting lost in her loving is your first mistake

    Sometimes I think its a sin
    When I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again"

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    L'orage

    They're not that secretive, HonestAbe. http://www.orageclub.net/

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    Great reply Bruce34, I was just about to answer HonestAbe but no need now you covered everything - very well done.

    I must admit that I'm looking forward to your upcoming 2 reviews.

    Spin

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    Thumbs down Thanks Bruce

    Can you just show up to the door and pay the membership?

    I was wondering if I should bring a girl "friend" or go alone. I like the couples idea but wonder if couples prefer other couples rather than a single guy. What do you guys think?
    "I can picture every move that a man could make
    getting lost in her loving is your first mistake

    Sometimes I think its a sin
    When I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again"

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    Originally Posted by HonestAbe
    I was wondering if I should bring a girl "friend" or go alone. I like the couples idea but wonder if couples prefer other couples rather than a single guy. What do you guys think?

    Couples prefer other couples. There are rare occasions that some couples prefer a man. But when it happens, it's a good-looking man. I mean the girls are allowed to be selective too.
    That said there was an occasion with a man and an SP - review to come.
    Couples like to exchange simply because there's something for everyone, and of course, men always like that lesbian scene. Most of the time, men are straight and watch the women exchange more. And when the swap happens it's full service with protected SOG.
    I think I'll let Spin elaborate more on this one.
    Bruce34 is very accurate with his answer, it also depends on what you are looking for HonestAbe. I often go alone as a single guy looking for a couple, my thing is a MMF threesome (both men being hetero), I am usually able to find this, but as Bruce34 mentioned it does have a lot to do with looks (I'm no Brad Pitt but I'm in pretty good shape, I'm fairly young usually the couples I've been with are always older than me, and I shave - I really think this helps) also your behaviour be friendly, see if there is any chemistry before sex is even mentioned - Usually when a couple is looking for a single man it will be the woman that chooses.

    I do also go as a couple with a very close friend of mine who enjoys couple/couple or multiple couples - It is much easier as a couple but the same basic rules for meeting others do apply. IMHO most couples are looking for other couples (or single females) from my experience the sex is most often girl with girl and the men are straight, some couples are only looking to have sex in the same bed with another couple and only a small amount of touching is exchanged (between couples) while other couples are looking for full partner swapping. (when we go as a couple we are open to both). Sex is always safe.

    These are just some examples HonestAbe, I have had some different experiences and propositions over the years, from a women wanting to watch her husband blow me, to another couple who wanted to have me fs the wife while she was doing the husband with a strap-on, but I will admit these are rare.

    HonestAbe, if you are really interested in this I would strongly suggest giving it a try one night (alone or as a couple) - Don't worry, I know the first time is hard (it took me a while before I had the guts) but I'm very happy I did. I think you will be surprised at how welcoming the people are, you will feel comfortable and no one is going to force you to do anything - Go have a drink get the basic feel of it, the worst thing that could happen is you realize it's not your cup of tea of you leave.

    One last thing HonestAbe, whether you go alone or as a couple be prepared to spend at least a few hours there, it takes a while no one is walking in a jumping into bed - kind of like a regular bar really - you go, you have a few drinks, you mingle and hope to get lucky.
    Last edited by spin; 12-23-2005 at 10:53 AM.
    Try everything in life at least once, except incest & maybe square dancing.

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    Been a while...

    The last time I watched other people having sex in person I was living in a Fraternity house. I liked it then, no reason why I wouldn't like it now. Thanks for the informed advice, I think I'll go check it out next time up that way. Glad to hear I won't have to worry about LE.
    "I can picture every move that a man could make
    getting lost in her loving is your first mistake

    Sometimes I think its a sin
    When I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again"

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    Couples Clubs - interesting article

    OK - I know this is board is not a couples board, but interesting Montreal article.
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    Canada's group sex club patrons swinging free
    Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:56 PM ET

    By Robert Melnbardis

    MONTREAL (Reuters) - On a recent night out on the town, Michel and Chantal Delbecchi left their suburban Montreal home and drove to the L'Orage Club in the city's east end, where they had sex with a couple they had never met before.

    The Delbecchis, husband and wife since 1978, are "echangistes," French for "swingers," who for the past 21 years have been visiting clubs like L'Orage (Thunderstorm) to have consensual sex in a group with one or more other people.

    For future outings, they will no longer have to fear police will raid the club and arrest them for being in a "bawdy house," a place where prostitution or acts of public indecency take place.

    In a landmark decision on Dec, 21, the Supreme Court of Canada lifted a ban on swingers' clubs, ruling that group sex among consenting adults is neither prostitution nor a threat to society.

    The ruling sparked outrage, largely in English-speaking parts of Canada, where critics said it would erode limits on indecency or obscenity, encourage prostitution and even contribute to the corruption of minors.

    In the mainly French-speaking and predominantly Catholic province of Quebec, however, the decision caused barely a ripple of adverse reaction. Newspaper editorialists fumed in Toronto, but largely yawned in Montreal.

    Swingers across Canada cheered the ruling, especially those in Quebec, where adherents go to clubs not only to meet others like them, but also to have sex on the premises.

    "It might make it easier for others interested in swinging to take the next step and visit a club," said Michel, 48, huddled next to Chantal, 43, on a sofa at the dimly lit L'Orage.

    Michel, who works at an outlet of warehouse retailer Costco, and Chantal, on leave from her job at a school bus operator, said most swingers are not comfortable in the public spotlight.

    "We have a few friends who were afraid to come out to a club because they were worried about how a raid might affect their work or family situation," said Chantal.

    For L'Orage club owner Jean-Paul Labaye, the court ruling is vindication after a seven-year court battle that began with a 1998 police raid in which he and 40 of his patrons were arrested for being in a bawdy house.

    "Everyone was shocked that we would be treated like bandits," said Labaye. "I vowed to defend myself and their cause if that was their desire and that is what I did."

    GANG BANG TUESDAYS

    Labaye, a portly and jovial 46-year-old native of France, said swingers celebrated the Supreme Court victory with a late-night party at L'Orage.

    In an interview the next day at the club, temporarily housed at a venue which features "gang bang" Tuesday afternoons, Labaye apologized for not being able to show a reporter and photographer the upstairs rooms where groups have sex because the housekeeping service had not yet cleaned them.

    The club is housed in an elegant but aging two-story house on a busy street. The ground floor has mismatched sofas and chairs, scant lighting and framed photographs on the walls depicting scenes of mild sexual bondage.

    The club has no license to sell alcoholic beverages, but sports a small bar that offers coffee and caffeine-loaded soft drinks.

    Labaye hopes a group of Florida investors will help him move into swankier digs, which in addition to the requisite private rooms will have something resembling a refined cigar lounge.

    Club rules will be the same -- no illicit drugs or alcohol abuse, and when it comes to propositions for sex, a reply of no means no.

    In the meantime, the swinger soirees will continue at L'Orage and at least two dozen similar clubs in Quebec, including one in Gatineau, just opposite the Ottawa River from the imposing stone hulk of the Supreme Court building.

    Labaye and the Delbecchis, who have three adult sons, are preparing for important changes in their personal lives.

    Labaye plans to marry his girlfriend in Paris in May.

    As for Michel and Chantal, a 25-year-old woman has become their mutual lover and all three plan to move in together early next year. Despite that new relationship, the Delbecchis expect to continue exchanging sex partners in Quebec clubs.

    Said Michel: "At the club, we have sex with people. At home, we make love."

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    Good for them!

    Quote Originally Posted by chadnyc

    The Delbecchis, husband and wife since 1978,

    Said Michel: "At the club, we have sex with people. At home, we make love."
    Perhaps they should teach a class on how to make a marriage last. If only everyone could embrace that philosophy. Sex is sex, love is love, the two are independent of each other.
    "I can picture every move that a man could make
    getting lost in her loving is your first mistake

    Sometimes I think its a sin
    When I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again"

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadnyc
    Newspaper editorialists fumed in Toronto, but largely yawned in Montreal.
    I'm in Toronto, and it wasn't exactly a huge story in the news here, and I don't think there was much "fuming". I would assume it received more attention in Montreal since the case was about two clubs there.

    There was a pair of opinion articles on the same page of one newspaper (I think The National Post, but it might have been The Globe & Mail), with one for the decision and one against, and I think this was two or three days after it was announced and far into the newspaper, not on the front page. There may have been a few conservative columnists trying to sound angry about it, but I think the vast majority of people didn't know or care if swingers clubs were illegal or not. Apparently they exist in and around Toronto, but the subject has never been a big issue.

    http://www.lfpress.com/newsstand/Opi...7/1369166.html
    Thomas Dowd, a Roman Catholic priest in Montreal, says the distinction is a sham. Posting on Mark Shea's website, he wrote: "Really they are houses of prostitution. More men than women show up at these clubs (how surprising) so the club owners pay prostitutes to become part of the club clientele, to keep things, shall we say, entertaining."
    How would he know this?
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    Interesting..

    Very interesting thread. I've been contemplating going to one of these swing clubs for quite some time now. Never got up the nerve to go alone though.

    I've been to the Penthouse in Laval, but the scene thier is a bit too heavy for me. The Gang Bang thing is not for me. Having to push your way by a bunch of guys to get a blow job, by the time you get to the girl Mr Big is no longer Big lol...

    But the idea of getting to know a couple, having a few drinks, and letting things happen with no pressures seems appealing to me.

    Has anyone here been to the 1082? ... It seems like an interesting place

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