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    Scarry things about hotel rooms...

    Looks what I found on the net...they did not even mention whirl tubs

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Hotel guests leave behind more than just socks and old paperbacks: A new study found viruses on TV remotes, light switches and even hotel pens after cold sufferers checked out.


    The germ testing was done before the rooms were cleaned, so it likely overstates the risks that most travellers would face. Nevertheless, it shows the potential hazards if a hotel's turnaround amounts to little more than changing the sheets and wiping out the tub.
    "You sure hope the cleaning people were good," said Dr. Owen Hendley, the University of Virginia pediatrician who presented results of the study Friday at a meeting of the American Society for Microbiology.

    Besides hotel hazards, the findings point out things that people may not think to clean in their homes when someone has a cold.

    "We know that viruses can survive on surfaces for a long time - more than four days," said Dr. Birgit Winther, an ear, nose and throat specialist at the university who led the study.

    Its aim was to test the survival of rhinoviruses, which cause about half of all colds, especially in children.

    Researchers had 15 people with lab-confirmed rhinovirus colds spend a night in individual rooms at a nearby hotel and, after they checked out, tested 10 items they said they had touched. About one-third of the objects were contaminated with rhinovirus.

    "We were surprised to find so many," Winther said.

    Virus was found on seven out of 14 door handles and six of 14 pens. Six out of 15 light switches, TV remotes and faucets tested positive, as did five of 15 phones. Shower curtains, coffee makers and alarm clocks also harboured viruses.

    Surprisingly, virus turned up on only one of the 10 toilet handles tested.

    Experts did not test items like bedspreads because cloth dries out germs, making them far less likely to survive than they do on smooth or moist surfaces.

    Several months later, five of the 15 participants were asked to return to the hotel and visit rooms where certain items had been deliberately contaminated with their own mucus, which had been frozen previously when they had their colds.

    Because they had developed immunity to these germs, doctors could study how easily they picked them up without putting them at risk of getting sick again.

    Each volunteer visited two rooms and their hands were tested afterward for viruses. Results were positive on 60 per cent of contacts in rooms where mucus had dried for at least an hour, and on 33 per cent of those in rooms where mucus had dried overnight.

    The study was sponsored by Reckitt-Benckiser Inc., makers of Lysol, but did not test any products. Doctors with no ties to the company designed the study to lay the groundwork for future research on germs and ways to get rid of them.

    Some in the hotel industry say they have strict policies on how to disinfect rooms between guests.

    "We do wipe everything down, from the remote control to the telephone," said Michelle Pike, corporate director of housekeeping for Hilton brand hotels, which has 1,900 hotels around the world. Most of them are independently operated but the chain does have rules for disinfection, she said.

    Hilton, like many hotels, has taken steps to make common items easier to clean, like encasing phone books in plastic and replacing bedspreads with duvet covers than can be washed between each guest, she said.

    And if germs are lingering on surfaces in hotel rooms, "you can be damn sure it's more likely to happen at home," Hendley said.

    To wipe down home surfaces, doorknobs and light switches, "standard household cleaners will be adequate," said Dr. Frederick Hayden, a University of Virginia infectious diseases specialist who had no role in this study but has consulted extensively with companies developing viral vaccines and treatments.

    Dr. Stuart Levy, a Tufts University physician who heads the Alliance for Prudent Antibiotic Use, advocates lots of hand washing and not going overboard trying to de-bug your home.

    "How clean do you need to be? You don't go through with a blowtorch," he said.

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    On the Net:

    Microbiology meeting: www.icaac.org

    Home hygiene advice: http://www.ifh-homehygiene.org/2003/...Hrecomends.pdf

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    I had an encounter with a well known SP who took the bedspread off the bed immediately before the action was to begin. She said one should always assume these(bedspreads) are dirty and she never fooled around on top of them. What a simple(great) idea from Hilton to use a washable Duvet cover which can be replaced in between guests! My rooms at the Hilton Bonaventure have always been clean as far as I could tell. I still tend to wipe things down with a travel size package of sani-wipes however, no matter where I am.

    When cleaning my own house I always wipe down every surface, switch, handle, and doorknob with Clorox cleanup spray, there aren't many germs a little bleach can't kill. This also should serve to remind people how important it is to wash your hands with soap and warm water before eating or having intimate activity of any kind.

    One of my favorite quotes was attributed to Don King in a story about an encounter he once had in a public bathroom where he was questioned by someone about not washing his hands after taking a wizz. He reportedly said, "I wash my hands BEFORE I touch my dick!"

    Granted it is a bit short sighted of a view as far as getting germs on your hands from possible urine splatter or from touching the bathroom door, sink, water knobs, paper towel dispenser, flush lever if these things aren't equipped with motion sensors to automatically operate in a hands free mode, other than the door of course, I usually open the door with my elbow to keep from recontaminating myself. No I don't wash my hands 300 times a day if anyone was wondering.

    Nonetheless, if you think about it its not a bad idea to wash up before you handle your equipment. For instance, say you were at a business dinner and you shook the hands of a dozen or so associates and clients, God knows what their hygiene is like, would you then touch your private parts without washing first?
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    You clean your hands, use a sink and a paper dispenser with a motion sensor, walk like a surgeon going to work, then got to pull the same door everybody use...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnesotah
    You clean your hands, use a sink and a paper dispenser with a motion sensor, walk like a surgeon going to work, then got to pull the same door everybody use...
    Just like people have been doing for hundreds of years. It's this ridiculous germ phobia that drives me nuts. People using antiseptic wipes and germicide handcreme and then they wonder why they get sick. Their body has no chance to build up any natural defenses so of course they get sick. Sometimes I think we're breeding a generation of 'Howard Hughes' clones. The way things are going, with the internet and people so paranoid about germs, eventually no one will ever leave their sterile cocoons and we'll be living in a virtual world. If you looked at your own skin under a microscope and saw all the organisms that are on your body some people would go instantly insane and try to scrub their skin off their bones.

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    First theres a big difference between place like Motel metro on lajeunesse and Hilton...

    Second it's true people getting paranoid about germ etc... 10 year ago people were telling Michael Jackson was a freak because he was wearing mask and have freaking paranoi about it.... now look at people in general with their little germicide bottle...

    Third, when you goes into a motel or hotel what are you expecting from it? For sure the place gonan try their best to make it cleanner has possible but in a year there's the possibility that 365 DIFFERENTS people sleep into the same bed so this article is really not a surprise for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnesotah
    You clean your hands, use a sink and a paper dispenser with a motion sensor, walk like a surgeon going to work, then got to pull the same door everybody use...
    That does suck when you can't push it open, the bathroom door should always open to the outside so it can be pushed open once people have washed their hands and don't want to touch the handle on their way out.

    I agree with Techman that there is a germ phobia of sorts which can be carried too far, and that being exposed to germs does allow your immune system to build up strength. However I don't think anyone would endorse walking through the Metro touching all those hand railings and then eating a sandwich without washing your hands. It is better to err on the side of caution than throw it to the wind. As big a fan as I am of George Carlins' I totally disagree with his rantings on this subject, although they are funny when he points out how some people get obsessed with things.

    While you can't totally rid your day to day life of germs, and don't need too nor should you, you can minimize certain risks which can be extremely harmful and thats whats really important to remember. Its the serious things that we are worried about, and even if its unlikely that we would catch something serious from touching a toilet seat it is a possibility so why not clean it off before touching it?

    Its even more important for the elderly, people with children, or others with weakened immune systems to keep their exposure to smaller levels than most of the rest of us since the results of E-coli, staph, or other such scary things can wreak havoc on them if not cause death.

    Personally I have two small kids so I am fighting a losing battle to be honest, but that doesn't stop me from trying to minimize our exposure to serious health risks as much as possible. For them as well as me since I seem to catch every illness they bring home from school. The things kids will touch and then put their hands in their mouths after makes me cringe. Were not freaks though, just cautious.
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    You can't avoid germs altogether, so don't freak out. In fact, trying to avoid them and eliminate them is often counterproductive in two ways. First, anti-bacterial soaps kill good bacteria that you need. Second, the immune system gets stronger with a little work. Practice, really.
    A strong, truly mighty immune system is your best defense. Supplements like zinc, glutamine and arginine, as well as regular exercise are great ways to boost your immune system. Also, a little exposure to germs is good. Your immune system needs practice. Hell, your body is filled with microscopic germs and bacteria at all times, and you need alot of them to survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnesotah
    You clean your hands, use a sink and a paper dispenser with a motion sensor, walk like a surgeon going to work, then got to pull the same door everybody use...
    The key to this is using the paper towel you dried your hands off with to grab the handle of the door and open it, then discard the papertowel into the barrel.

    I always bring a small tube of Clorox bleach wipes when I visit any hotel and the first thing I do is wipe down the telephones, remote control and alarm clocks. Call me paranoid but that's just the way I am.

    SK

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    Thumbs down Ingenuity wins again!

    Quote Originally Posted by Special K
    The key to this is using the paper towel you dried your hands off with to grab the handle of the door and open it, then discard the papertowel into the barrel. SK
    I can't believe I didn't think of that SK, you sir are a bonafide genius, thank you for solving that problem for me! What if there is no trash barrel outside the rest room though? I suppose I can store the towel in a zip lock baggy til I find one.
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    Actually, it is a fact that the hand dryer put more microbes on your hands than using a paper towel.

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    It ain't all that bad

    For all the germophobes, hotels aren't all as bad as the TV news magazines make them out to be. I travel for a living and spend an average of 14 nights per month in hotels. I can't remember ever getting sick from one but who knows. It is good to wipe down the remote control and telephone and don't lay around on the bedspread naked or in your underware, (who knows when it was cleaned last). Also make a quick bed bug check. It doesn't matter if it's "El Roacho Motel" or a Hyatt Regency. Look in the corners behind the bed for black residue and up the corners of the room for the same. If you can pull the mattress back look behind the mattress and box springs against the wall. If nothing, no problem. If you see black residue (bed bug shit) then pull off the head board and look behind there. If it's around call the manager, point it out to him and either leave or get another room. This is extremely rare, but bed bugs are making a comeback in all but a couple of the lower 48. I'm not sure about Canada. Any way, wrapped plastic glasses are always cleaner than the nice glass ones. I once caught a maid wiping down the glasses with a used bath towel and putting them back on the tray. So if you don't see a rack of clean glasses on the maid's cart, you might want to think about a hot water rinse and wipe with a clean wash rag or tissue.
    Here's the upside... If the folks that do the sterility tests on hotels were to take them into your house, I betcha a dime to a donut your house would be about as bad. Well except for all the semen residue on the ceiling..........

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    More ingenuity!

    Quote Originally Posted by Love big tits
    Actually, it is a fact that the hand dryer put more microbes on your hands than using a paper towel.
    That is why I use my elbow to press the button on the hand dryer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nacho
    Here's the upside... If the folks that do the sterility tests on hotels were to take them into your house, I betcha a dime to a donut your house would be about as bad. Well except for all the semen residue on the ceiling..........
    But these are my germs and only mine. Lol. BTW, thanks for the tip on the bed bugs, it's really becoming an epidemic in parts of Boston, especially the college crowded areas.

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    Bed bugs

    bed bugs are becoming a problem everywhere from the sleaziest motel to the 5* hotels. ALWAYS pull the sheet off the mattress before ya lie down on it otherwise you can end up covered in bites (and not the fun nibble ones either lol)

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