I think once grocery shopping gets questioned, the argument has become really desperate.
How long will you wait?
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I think once grocery shopping gets questioned, the argument has become really desperate.
There's no guarantee of a vaccine ... and if there is one, most estimates say 12 to 18 months ... then how long until made widely available? Both therapeutics and a vaccine ...
Not just economically ...
I'm certainly no epidemiologist, but rather than a so-called black swan event, some see this as a part of a pattern of emerging viruses ... and speculate about the new realities that might emerge because of them.
Vaccination is only one piece of the solution. The lag time necessary to develop an efficient vaccine is estimated to be least 12 months. Only time will tell how efficient the proposed vaccines will be as they could confer partial immunity or even become ineffective if the SARS-CoV-2 mutates at the target protein. We will get rid of this virus as we got rid of others: by reducing the pool of transmission to a minimum until it disappears. This will be obtained by natural immunity (re-opening schools) in those at low risk of complications, vaccinations (especially of those at risk) and maintain of good hygiene practices. There will be another pandemic, it is not a matter of if, but of when. Lets hope it is the last one for many generations and that we will be better prepared for the next.
The best hope I see for the future is the development of good antiviral therapies. Virus are smart creatures however and there are no evident pharmaceutical target commonly shared by them that could easily be used. The antiviral agents we currently have seem useless against COVID-19.
Foodie.
The best hope I see for the future is the development of good antiviral therapies. Virus are smart creatures however and there are no evident pharmaceutical target commonly shared by them that could easily be used. The antiviral agents we currently have seem useless against COVID-19.
Foodie.
There’s no guarantee everyone will even get the vaccine once it becomes available. How many people refuse the flu vaccine on a yearly basis offered to them by their GP. Do know that even if there is a vaccine, people can and will still get covid-19, albeit @ lower incidence.
I am one who has never had a shot for Flu. I have not got a Flu in over 10 years. Only some small cold here and there. But covid-19 cannot be compared. First it's so much more contagious. And second the complication can develop to MUCH worst for many more people. So I will be in line for a covid-19 shot for sure.
Cheers,
Everyone`s opinion here is just that....an opinion. No one has all the facts and there are more unknowns than knowns about the nature of this novel virus or the eventual path it will take. A miracle may happen that will cause the virus to die off or lose its potency. On the other hand no vaccine or effective cure will be found and we may be left in a cycle of isolation and non isolation. Does immunity work and what about herd immunity is it a possibility ….. not been tested yet. All we can do now , including Fauci is speculate about the many unknowns and possibilities.
Cloudsurf, I mostly agree with your opinion, but here a setting is different.
Before the crisis, all the researchers in this field, in the world, worked on their side, really not much collaboration between the research laboratories (except when we have to determine the human genome).
Today all the labs. even those whose fields of work were different, work in the same direction, and even in the USA where researchers work hard to find a solution (naturally hoping that their president doesn't prevent them from contributing to the common effort.
But with him, you never know, because there he wants to discredit Fauci (oops that was my political editorial).
I wasn't questioning grocery shopping, obviously. You're dodging the actual thing I was questioning, which is you not following the rules and recommendations...
im in no ways comparing influenza and Coronavirus. What I’m saying is that there’s a shit load of patients who don’t get the flu vaccine because of the reasons you listed. Based on that I think a lot will have same mentality with Coronavirus. Not comparing to the two viruses and diseases they cause in any way, but it’s the mentality that some have with getting vaccinations with one I think will carry over for the other I’m afraid. Yea, I’m sure there may be many with your mentality as well. Not too concerned about influenza, but will get covid-19 shots.
Lol, perhaps they will find a way to combine the two vaccines in one shot!
Doubt it..the flu vaccine is almost always an attenuated virus and the leading candidate for the covid vaccine is Moderna’s which is an mRNA vaccine.
Who is that candidate vaccine with? Is it an American company?
addendum, never mind, :doh::doh::doh:
addendum, never mind, :doh::doh::doh:
Ah no, you clearly suggested grocery shopping was risky. BTW I have already explained my arrangement clearly, and so far have not read an intelligent argument why this arrangement poses any greater risk to society than other regular couples do. As far as rules, where I live, one can visit someone with whom one has a "close personal relationship". No doubt I am interpreting that to my favor, but I do have a 2 year history with my friend I don't need to explain further.
Yeah, no worries there, right? Keep justifying.
Obviously it poses some risk, but I'm not questioning the practice of it as it's necessary (unless ordering online). I'm asking about in the context of your other activities.
Actually
Mistral. There are couples who don’t live together who are not seeing each other.
You on the other hand are seeing 2.
So like trump. The rules are beneath you
You could have also kept this to yourself. But chose to share. Maybe to show off? Whatever the reason. Would have been better to keep to yourself
Mistral. There are couples who don’t live together who are not seeing each other.
You on the other hand are seeing 2.
So like trump. The rules are beneath you
You could have also kept this to yourself. But chose to share. Maybe to show off? Whatever the reason. Would have been better to keep to yourself
You obviously don't understand or choose to ignore the health Canada /Quebec guidelines on social distancing and self isolation. You are a part of the problem, not unfortunately a part of the solution !
I chose to share because I believe it's very likely that some in the hobby are having private arrangements during this time.
I'm not too surprised that a couple of posters popped up as the morality police.
The arguments have been weak though on how a private arrangement is such a risk. Mr. Savoy's latest attempt was to dig up an older post before I had provided more context. Which included I saw the MP once and am mainly seeing the dancer, and all have very limited close contacts.
I'd be interested to know how you guys justify paying for BBBJs from strangers. With the various rules and recommendations on prostitution and infectious disease. Hope you guys are single.
I'm not too surprised that a couple of posters popped up as the morality police.
The arguments have been weak though on how a private arrangement is such a risk. Mr. Savoy's latest attempt was to dig up an older post before I had provided more context. Which included I saw the MP once and am mainly seeing the dancer, and all have very limited close contacts.
I'd be interested to know how you guys justify paying for BBBJs from strangers. With the various rules and recommendations on prostitution and infectious disease. Hope you guys are single.
Mistral. The current social distancing put in place is to reduce the total number of cases and decrease the pressure on the health system. Everyone will probably get the disease. But on a longer time period
If we decrease the number of cases. We increase the business that can be open and increase the number of people getting some cash back in their pocket.
Your post shows that you only care about yourself. Your post encourages others to follow
Getting the risk of a sexual disease during normal periods is something the health system can handle. Whether is is legal or not is a non issue. Morally it is a non issue.
Right now. You just become a statistical risk that effectively makes everyone else’s return to normal a little bit longer.
If we decrease the number of cases. We increase the business that can be open and increase the number of people getting some cash back in their pocket.
Your post shows that you only care about yourself. Your post encourages others to follow
Getting the risk of a sexual disease during normal periods is something the health system can handle. Whether is is legal or not is a non issue. Morally it is a non issue.
Right now. You just become a statistical risk that effectively makes everyone else’s return to normal a little bit longer.
FB with all do respect and not defending mistral in any way, but there’s gotta be a flip side to this. If you found out one of your faves was still seeing clients on the sly how would you feel?
I get it. Girls gotta eat. And guys gotta fuck
No need to post it all over twitter that they are still seeing clients. If my atf did it. I probably would not see her afterwards if I it was something published everywhere.
TNB a girl i was seeing started offering some unsafe practice. Stopped seeing her from the moment she offered it to me.
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