South Korean Plane Crash Kills 177

[EagerBeaver]

I know there are some pilots or aviation engineers on this board so please explain to me what I am seeing in this video. It looks like the jet is skidding down the runway with no landing gear or wheels deployed- on its belly- and therefore, it cannot brake or slow down. It then hits a concrete wall and explodes in a fireball. Obviously it could not brake because there are no wheels down. Why is there a concrete wall rather than one that gives away at the end of the runway?

Why would the pilot have tried landing the plane without landing gear, but more significantly. why could the pilots not deploy the landing gear? I heard some reports of birds flying into the wheel wells? Could this event have possibly prevented the deployment of the landing gear? Is there not an emergency unlock system that allows the landing gear to deploy by way of gravity?

 

[nothinghere]

I know there are some pilots or aviation engineers on this board so please explain to me what I am seeing in this video.

From the video flaps and slats for low speed flight do not look deployed resulting in a faster touchdown speed of 200+ knots to keep the airplane from stalling and falling during the approach. Normal touchdown speed is 145 knots with flaps n slats extended. Pilot most likely misjudged and touched down too long down the runway. The Pilot "might" have realized this too late and "might" have hit the throttle in a panic for a last second go around but Failed and just increased the speed while sliding on the runway. An engine failure is usually no problem cause there are 3 redundant hydraulic systems to activate control surfaces and landing gear.. Whatever happened is a very bad type of "Cascade effect" of failures for Boeing not having the flaps n slats and gear deployed with an engine out. Gear up landing is bad but with no flap n slats landing is exponentially bad because of the extra 55Knots which exponentially increases the landing roll. Why the gravity drop of the landing gear did not work given it is simple springs and cable activated is unknown. Badly trained pilots forgot about those gravity gear extension handles in a box by the pilot seats? What a mess.

 

[nothinghere]

Whatever happened is a very bad type of "Cascade effect" of failures. Badly trained pilots... What a mess.

At this point this accident is an enigma. Wtf the black box data recorder stopped working with NO DATA the last few critical moments as reported in the news!!?? As a previous pilot I remember flying twin engine propellor aircraft when I was young and an engine failure would cause the aircraft to roll and yaw in the direction of the dead engine and it was an obvious instinctive reaction to correct with the rudder pedals and the training was basic 101 "Dead foot..Dead engine check fire no fire shut down or attempt restart" Now these fly by wire jets the flight control systems auto correct and a jet engine failure can be more difficult to identify which engine is out other than a flashing cockpit light and engine parameter data on tiny LCD display like a video game. Visually the pilots won't even be able see by looking unless the failed engine had blown up which it did not as seen in the news videos. I speculate in the last minutes of cockpit panic "The wrong engine was shut down" and no time to restart nor deploy the manual landing gear release and inadvertently the pilots were committed to a gear up no flaps n slats landing basically gliding to the touchdown point. The touchdown point was very long down the runway and was preset by the laws of physics given initial altitude and speed energy at the moment "The wrong engine was shut down". The actual touchdown was filmed and it was actually a textbook perfect gear up landing but too much speed. Very strange in the news video the right engine which was identified from videos taken from the ground as the failed engine with smoke visible had its trust reversers "Deployed!!??" during the landing...like the pilots thought the damaged engine was still operating? This black box data missing looks like a massive coverup for pilot mismanagement.

CNN Black box stopped recording minutes before crash

 

[EagerBeaver]

Nothinghere thanks for your informative input into this thread. Still unanswered is the question of why, since an emergency landing of this type with no landing gear is reasonably foreseeable, there is a concrete wall at the end of the runway. The Black Box missing may also be a coverup for this as well?