Review rating system

[Fradi]

We're not bringing this up in every thread. I think it's relevant to bring this up on a thread about a degrading and overly simplistic rating system that could be abused by disrespectful clients.. i don't think it makes sense to compare this to providers you speculate don't like their clients.

Really ? Take a look at the recent “ time waister” thread post # 25.
There it is again not the same wording but pretty similar in meaning, there the topic was time wasting , why bring up violence? If men are so terrible why do escorting?

I think the comparison is very valid, men and women are not that different and they don’t always like each other and can be mean and horrible as well as kind and thoughtful. You were not talking about the rating system you just made a statement ( no idea why ) that some hobbyists actually dislike women. It is ok we don’t have to agree.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Really ? Take a look at the recent “ time waister” thread post # 25.
There it is again not the same wording but pretty similar in meaning, there the topic was time wasting , why bring up violence? If men are so terrible why do escorting?

I think the comparison is very valid, men and women are not that different and they don’t always like each other and can be mean and horrible as well as kind and thoughtful. You were not talking about the rating system you just made a statement ( no idea why ) that some hobbyists actually dislike women. It is ok we don’t have to agree.

The post about time wasters is about disrespectful behavior, so it's relevant to bring it up. There are tons of other posts here like taboo fantasy etc. My statement is very relevant because hobbyists who see us as objects will find a rating system like this convenient, this is my reasoning behind bringing this up and I don't really understand why this is offending you because this has nothing to do with you because it's clear that you're not like that.

I'm also making sure by stating these opinions that this type of clients doesnt book me Because like I said, a very large percentages clients of escorts want to be respectful to us and love seeing us and love women.

 

[Fradi]

The post about time wasters is about disrespectful behavior. There are tons of other posts here like taboo fantasy etc. My statement is very relevant because hobbyists who see us as objects will find a rating system like this convenient, this is my reasoning behind bringing this up and I don't really understand why this is offending you because this has nothing to do with you because it's clear that you're not like that.

As far as the rating system goes I don’t really care how someone rates or reviews as long as it is respectful and not dehumanizing.
Stars or a long glorified story whatever. I take what I want from a review or don’t even bother to read it if it is about a provider I am not interested in or a reviewer I don’t trust.

It is offensive simply because I am tired of SP constantly bashing clients. We all know scumbags exist as clients and as SP so making generalized digs at men in these threads is not very impressive nor helpful.

I don’t need to defend myself as I have said I am comfortable with who I am and you can always ask someone who I have reviewed what I am like in real life. I am sure SP do this routinely and they would be doing themselves a disservice if they didn’t. You can also read any of my reviews and you will never find a disrespectful word towards any escort I have been with.

I don’t do negative reviews unless it is a clear bait and switch or the client may be in danger,
I will not tarnish anybodies reputation simply because we didn’t have chemistry or I didn’t see stars because It is quite normal not to click with everyone you meet, and if by chance it turns out that I am not attracted to her then it is 100% my fault as I should have done my homework better.

 

[Jordd]

Lol I deleted my comment because I did assume people use AI because they're dyslexic. A close friend of mine does it.

It would be nice if people would stop policing the way others write reviews as long as it's done respectfully, or trying to bully clients into sharing info and writing reviews..

Ummm it’s a review board

 

[Jordd]

My point was simply why bring this up in every thread just about.
Yes there are scumbags who dislike and mistreat women and yes there are scumbag SP that hate what they are doing and their clients.
It is reality of life and an unfortunate part that both SP and clients will need to deal with, part of why this Forum exists, hopefully to keep all of us as safe as possible.

Because it’s a common thread. Perhaps the providers could better speak to that, but I imagine the majority fall into that cateogey, ie. woman haters or client haters.
That’s why the gems are rare.

 

[Jordd]

There's a difference between someone who enjoys booking providers and genuinely loves women and is respectful to them vs someone who has impossible expectations, is a boundary pusher, shares personal details with other clients and gets off on writing bad reviews when they don't get what they exactly wanted. It's not about the quantity of providers they see, it's about how they treat us and view us.

I think it's relevant to bring this up here, because I think a rating system like this is really dehumanizing. Just take a look at the review part of the board and you'll find comments that are made by individuals who are totally devoid of respect and empathy. Let's not make it worse.

A large part of local clients are lurkers who have mixed feelings or even negative feelings about review boards, but they still rely on reviews to choose a provider. If a provider keeps getting 1/5 because she doesn't do greek and wants you to leave when the time is up.. a client might just see the 1/5 and decide not to book her even if she could offer an amazing experience

I hear what you are saying. Unfortunately, there will be always be people devoid of tact or respect and some may be vengeful. Actually, the mods seem to be doing a good job of filtering out disrespectful and unfair comments.

Otherwise, you can’t control what people may say. The only thing you can control is how you do your job and treat people. My suggestion to you, is not to worry about what’s said in reviews.

I appreciate participation of the providers in the forum to give a perspective from "the other side" and to engage in discussion. It also gives insight into the persons personality, which is essential (for some of us anyway).

 

[Rebaynia]

My comment was just a joke and an extreme example of reviews that were good, followed by "no repeat" and vice versa!
We are all grown-ups (I hope) here and I’m sure a decision to repeat is based on personal experience and has nothing to do with others’ reviews!

LoL, sorry, the humor was outside my catch. (I can be pretty dense with some kinds of humor.) I love puns, but sarcastic humor can go over my head and under my feet, leaving me completely clueless a funny was made.

 

[Rebaynia]

As far as the rating system goes I don’t really care how someone rates or reviews as long as it is respectful and not dehumanizing.
Stars or a long glorified story whatever. I take what I want from a review or don’t even bother to read it if it is about a provider I am not interested in or a reviewer I don’t trust.

It is offensive simply because I am tired of SP constantly bashing clients. We all know scumbags exist as clients and as SP so making generalized digs at men in these threads is not very impressive nor helpful.

I don’t need to defend myself as I have said I am comfortable with who I am and you can always ask someone who I have reviewed what I am like in real life. I am sure SP do this routinely and they would be doing themselves a disservice if they didn’t. You can also read any of my reviews and you will never find a disrespectful word towards any escort I have been with.

I don’t do negative reviews unless it is a clear bait and switch or the client may be in danger,
I will not tarnish anybodies reputation simply because we didn’t have chemistry or I didn’t see stars because It is quite normal not to click with everyone you meet, and if by chance it turns out that I am not attracted to her then it is 100% my fault as I should have done my homework better.

We get your point... you don't want to hear that there is a dangerous side of this job. You want your fantasy that this is a blessing to do this and we all have great expieriences and should love what we do...

Please understand the ones we comment on in the negative, are rarely the hobbyists we actually see. These are the men who throw up so many red flags before even getting to a booking, that we aren't complaining about our clients, but the potential clients who we refuse to see.

Now a point I have made to my master before as well... You know your friends as you see them when they are with their bros, they are charismatic, fun, a bros bro. You are in denial that that same man who is cool with you, can have an ax to grind about how their relationships have been, and though you see a good guy, their views on women and how they treat them can be very different when they are alone with a woman behind closed doors.
I have warned many clients in the past about vouching for the character of their friend. That I have had such bad expieriences in cases where a client I liked vouched for a friend, and the expierience with their friend went poorly enough I fired the orrigional client as well because the expierience tainted my ability to enjoy the original any longer.

You don't like hearing the truth of the darker side of this world, but we live it, and unfortunately, the very ones you don't want to hear about when it is braught up, we the fem presenting population often need the masculine presenting side to correct the behaviors and share in letting men women are in danger around, know it is unacceptable, because their heads are so far up their ass that rather then want to understand their behaviors are wrong, they are so narcissistic that they blame all women for not accepting them, when it is their behavior that keeps the women away. And understand those ones, that perpetually remain single because this is how they are, are left with no other option than contacting providers, but still carry those same dangerous and nasty tendencies to us as well. Just because we are providers, doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat us badly. They treat "respectable" women poorly, how do you think they aim to treat us when they have us alone.

No not all clients are like that. Most we see are pretty amazing, I adore my regulars, they are some pretty amazing men, and sometimes I wonder how it is they stay single. But doesn't change that I get disrespectful inquiries every day, while inquiries I accept happen once every few days.

 

[jeffmathers]

We get your point... you don't want to hear that there is a dangerous side of this job. You want your fantasy that this is a blessing to do this and we all have great expieriences and should love what we do...

Please understand the ones we comment on in the negative, are rarely the hobbyists we actually see. These are the men who throw up so many red flags before even getting to a booking, that we aren't complaining about our clients, but the potential clients who we refuse to see.

Now a point I have made to my master before as well... You know your friends as you see them when they are with their bros, they are charismatic, fun, a bros bro. You are in denial that that same man who is cool with you, can have an ax to grind about how their relationships have been, and though you see a good guy, their views on women and how they treat them can be very different when they are alone with a woman behind closed doors.
I have warned many clients in the past about vouching for the character of their friend. That I have had such bad expieriences in cases where a client I liked vouched for a friend, and the expierience with their friend went poorly enough I fired the orrigional client as well because the expierience tainted my ability to enjoy the original any longer.

You don't like hearing the truth of the darker side of this world, but we live it, and unfortunately, the very ones you don't want to hear about when it is braught up, we the fem presenting population often need the masculine presenting side to correct the behaviors and share in letting men women are in danger around, know it is unacceptable, because their heads are so far up their ass that rather then want to understand their behaviors are wrong, they are so narcissistic that they blame all women for not accepting them, when it is their behavior that keeps the women away. And understand those ones, that perpetually remain single because this is how they are, are left with no other option than contacting providers, but still carry those same dangerous and nasty tendencies to us as well. Just because we are providers, doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat us badly. They treat "respectable" women poorly, how do you think they aim to treat us when they have us alone.

No not all clients are like that. Most we see are pretty amazing, I adore my regulars, they are some pretty amazing men, and sometimes I wonder how it is they stay single. But doesn't change that I get disrespectful inquiries every day, while inquiries I accept happen once every few days.

I wish people read what you, Luna, and other SPs type. All of you are well spoken and articulate yourselves well but I feel people are somehow not understanding. I hope things get better for you all.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

I hope things get better for you all.

I really think we’ve never had better conditions to do this work than we do now. But there's still work to do, a lot.

 

[Rebaynia]

I wish people read what you, Luna, and other SPs type. All of you are well spoken and articulate yourselves well but I feel people are somehow not understanding. I hope things get better for you all.

Oh I agree. I will also admit, because of how media presents us, and what I have witnessed some people treat & talk about providers, I had trouble accepting in myself that this was something I wanted and needed in my life to feel fulfilled. It has only been since I have had the pleasure of meeting others like Luna, Julia, and more, that I have grown proud to be a provider, because I see such amazing, intelligent and quality people.

 

[Fradi]

We get your point... you don't want to hear that there is a dangerous side of this job. You want your fantasy that this is a blessing to do this and we all have great expieriences and should love what we do...

Please understand the ones we comment on in the negative, are rarely the hobbyists we actually see. These are the men who throw up so many red flags before even getting to a booking, that we aren't complaining about our clients, but the potential clients who we refuse to see.

Now a point I have made to my master before as well... You know your friends as you see them when they are with their bros, they are charismatic, fun, a bros bro. You are in denial that that same man who is cool with you, can have an ax to grind about how their relationships have been, and though you see a good guy, their views on women and how they treat them can be very different when they are alone with a woman behind closed doors.
I have warned many clients in the past about vouching for the character of their friend. That I have had such bad expieriences in cases where a client I liked vouched for a friend, and the expierience with their friend went poorly enough I fired the orrigional client as well because the expierience tainted my ability to enjoy the original any longer.

You don't like hearing the truth of the darker side of this world, but we live it, and unfortunately, the very ones you don't want to hear about when it is braught up, we the fem presenting population often need the masculine presenting side to correct the behaviors and share in letting men women are in danger around, know it is unacceptable, because their heads are so far up their ass that rather then want to understand their behaviors are wrong, they are so narcissistic that they blame all women for not accepting them, when it is their behavior that keeps the women away. And understand those ones, that perpetually remain single because this is how they are, are left with no other option than contacting providers, but still carry those same dangerous and nasty tendencies to us as well. Just because we are providers, doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat us badly. They treat "respectable" women poorly, how do you think they aim to treat us when they have us alone.

No not all clients are like that. Most we see are pretty amazing, I adore my regulars, they are some pretty amazing men, and sometimes I wonder how it is they stay single. But doesn't change that I get disrespectful inquiries every day, while inquiries I accept happen once every few days.

I have one advice only.
If it is so bad and so dangerous do something else like millions of other women do.
We all know that there are men and women who are dangerous in this business exist, continually harping on it in every thread does nothing to change that.
Nobody said it is acceptable behaviour and nobody is condoning it that however is not going to change anything just like continually bashing men will not either.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I have one advice only.
If it is so bad and so dangerous do something else like millions of other women do.
We all know that there are men and women who are dangerous in this business exist, continually harping on it in every thread does nothing to change that.
Nobody said it is acceptable behaviour and nobody is condoning it that however is not going to change anything just like continually bashing men will not either

Nobody here is bashing men. That's what you don't understand. We're not bashing men in general we're just discussing clients who are disrespectful and you're taking that personally because you think we're talking about all men, and we aren't.

Advising us to do something else also isn't helpful. I said many times I love my job. I don't feel in danger because I protect myself.

 

[Rebaynia]

I have one advice only.
If it is so bad and so dangerous do something else like millions of other women do.
We all know that there are men and women who are dangerous in this business exist, continually harping on it in every thread does nothing to change that.
Nobody said it is acceptable behaviour and nobody is condoning it that however is not going to change anything just like continually bashing men will not either.

No one is bashing men. We are calling out human behavior that would make the current threads goal of a star rating not as great the idea as the OP thought. In theory, everyone is honest and only rates those they have seen and rates honestly. But in practice, that is not the how things play out in the real world.

And it doesn't look like the sites that do allow the star rating, is the one being used in the end.

 

[Enjoying life]

Nobody here is bashing men. That's what you don't understand. We're not bashing men in general we're just discussing clients who are disrespectful and you're taking that personally because you think we're talking about all men, and we aren't.

Advising us to do something else also isn't helpful. I said many times I love my job. I don't feel in danger because I protect myself.

Luna is top notch!

 

[jeffmathers]

I really think we’ve never had better conditions to do this work than we do now. But there's still work to do, a lot.

I agree. A friend in your industry outside of Montreal gifted me some books by Melissa Gira Grant and other authors and it's fascinating. The history and the contemporary situation around the world is one of my interests.

 

[jeffmathers]

As this thread continues in circles it makes me think of the phrase "You can't get someone to logic out of something they didn't logic their way into."
Si qelqun n'a pas utilise la logiq pour atteindre sa destination, il est peu probable q vous puissiez l'aider a quitter son lieu d'origine.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

I mean to be fair... Most members have the exact same access you have to service providers. This isn't what people mean usually when they say they have a very active social life btw



Members have always come and gone on here. If you're not reviewing a lady someone else eventually will. You aren't the greatest gift this forum was blessed with, nobody really is. It's your choice if you stop posting reviews and it's okay, I just don't think anyone will grieve to the extent you're making it seem

Wow, thank you so much for your comment, but now I must clarify and defend my position. it's truly inspiring how you managed to dismiss all my reviews as if they didn't matter at all, along with the effort and time I put into them. Honestly, to come here and claim that if it's not me writing reviews, then someone else is, is completely off the mark. Wake up, darling. Reviews are dying on this forum, and if you actually took the time to look, you'd see that most discussions are just inquiries about the menu rather than genuine reviews. They are maybe 100 to 150 active members contributing reviews on a regular basis and considering there are 140,000 registered members, your assumption that someone else is filling in for me is simply delusional. You have a funny way of seeing things. Most members here just read reviews to get information for their best interests and then have nothing to give back to the community. Instead, they spend their time stirring up drama in the lounge, distracting from those who genuinely contribute.But honestly, it's disappointing to see how much unnecessary drama has taken over the lounge section and people seem to have forgotten the real purpose of this forum.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

And the plot thickens…

In my previous replies, I gave you several chances to clear things up, but instead, you doubled down on the whole victim card / cry wolf routine. So I figured, why not take your advice literally?

To my own dismay, I actually sat down and read all your reviews from top to bottom. And guess what? Reading them back-to-back is… enlightening. Not because of the content, but because of how painfully obvious the patterns are.

Same structure. Same language. Same rhythm. Honestly, they read like lap dances smooth, mechanical, and all blur together. After a few of them, it feels like reading the same script over and over. Makes for a decent bedtime story if your goal is to fall asleep.

So, out of curiosity, I picked four reviews at random — Aliyah, Miranda, Camille, and Namtan — and pasted them into ChatGPT and search for similarities. I didn’t say if they were written by the same of multiple authors. .

Let’s just say… it confirmed what anyone with a basic sense of pattern recognition could already tell.

If you’re bored at home, you can do the same thing I did: randomly pick any four of his reviews

Copy-paste, ask ChatGPT if it sees any similarities.


Spoiler: It does. In detail. (Should try the spoiler function sorry)

I know you said you don’t have time to waste on this but trust me, it actually makes for some surprisingly entertaining reading.

Here goes…I reproduced the answer exactly as it is only reduced the spacing but changed nothing of the wording didn’t add didn’t delete.

“
These reviews weren’t written by different people.

They weren’t even written by one.

They were written by an AI.

Here’s how you can tell

1. Identical structure across all reviews

Each one follows the same formula:


Introduction → Looks description → Shower → BJ → Sex → Praise + review scores → “Two thumbs up”


There’s zero variation in tone, rhythm, or storytelling. They’re basically copy-paste templates with different names.

2. Over-polished, cliché-heavy language


Examples pulled straight from AI-generated writing:

• “Two thumbs up, way up”
• “Like a delicate doll”
• “Canvas of curves begging to be explored”
• “Lost myself entirely in the experience”
• “This wasn’t your typical Leolist encounter”

Real people don’t write like this consistently — but AI does.

3. Recycled sexual phrasing


Every review includes:

• Deep eye contact during BJ
• Ball licking
• “Like enjoying a lollipop”
• “Explosion all over me”
• “Silky smooth mouth”
• “Tight pussy”

It’s the same lines dressed up in slightly different wrapping. This is a pattern, not a coincidence.

4. Copy-paste scoring format

Every review ends with the same scoring chart:

Body, Face, Service, Attitude, GFE, Repeat, Agency, etc.

Same categories, same order, always glowing. No nuance, no variation, no criticism = not human.

Bottom line:

This isn’t honest feedback.

It’s marketing, generated by one guy using AI to boost certain girls or agencies.

If you’re relying on these reviews to make decisions, just know: you’re trusting bots, not clients. “

Im sharing my answer from Chatgpt and invite you to try for yourself.

If someone repeatedly claims he’s trustworthy, there’s your cue that he most likely isn’t

Since you clearly have so much extra time on your hands and love to scrutinize my reviews, I might as well give you a real challenge. I’m on the hunt for Waldo, and I’d be just thrilled if you could help me find him. it's so obvious that your detective skills are nothing short of spectacular and unmatched.Let me know if you're interested. You might even get paid for your Nobel work.

 

[Enjoying life]

Since you clearly have so much extra time on your hands and love to scrutinize my reviews, I might as well give you a real challenge. I’m on the hunt for Waldo, and I’d be just thrilled if you could help me find him. it's so obvious that your detective skills are nothing short of spectacular and unmatched.Let me know if you're interested. You might even get paid for your Nobel work.

Obvio is always a pleasure to chat with and his reviews are very encouraging!