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Your logic on the economics of these parties and how they worked is off. Too much analysis of this from the Indy point of view. The Iggy parties of past years were dominated by agencies and MP ladies. The ladies didn't make the call on whether to attend- the agency owner did. They got publicity and free advertising on MERB. I would suggest you go back and read some of the party threads. Let's please stop the revisionist histories and economic analyses.

Due to the success and size of the parties, some indies, who had been invited, started attending. From what I saw they picked their spots. I can remember one lady (hate to say this but I forgot her name, but she was great- 5'11" black lady from the Caribbean, I saw her maybe 3-4 times- someone remind me of her name). She wasn't really into parties but came to a couple of the Iggy parties. She didn't stay for the whole of the party. At one of them I persuaded her to come and told her I would be there. I bought her a number of drinks and she ended up getting drunk. This was one of the Lord Berri parties. Anyway my sidekick who came to the party excoriated me for not getting her a taxi or Uber after she left the party on her own. And Iggy was not happy with me either. I didn't actually see her leave (or maybe I did), but because I had gotten her drunk I did feel responsible. I texted her and apologized and the next day we texted and she made it home fine. I think she took the Metro. The other party she came to she didn't stay long, just long enough to be seen. She wasn't comfortable and felt it was a meat parade, which in truth is kind of what it is. But she understood it was good for business to bite the bullet and be seen. The party where I got her drunk she stayed longer because she was mostly sitting with me at the bar. But after she got drunk she actually gave some other guy a grinding lap dance right at the bar. This was kind of out of place with her personality and one reason I got my ass chewed out for not getting her a taxi or uber.

If you are buying drinks and getting someone drunk please keep this in mind.
It's not revisionist history. It's evolution to the present day and not a grip on the nostalgia of how things used to happen. I've been to a couple of hundred of these things. It's just not the same world now that it was back in the day, and priorites are not the same. What was sufficient then is not sufficient now to bring the girls out . Times have changed and they simply don't look at things the same way anymore. That's reflected in the current SP offerings in general now too. I think that's in large part why the get togethers don't happen often these days. Where the offer of presence and free drinks and fun and likely a client at the end of the night still exists is internationally, but that's just not the mindset here anymore.
 

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It's not revisionist history. It's evolution to the present day and not a grip on the nostalgia of how things used to happen. I've been to a couple of hundred of these things. It's just not the same world now that it was back in the day, and priorites are not the same. What was sufficient then is not sufficient now to bring the girls out . Times have changed and they simply don't look at things the same way anymore. That's reflected in the current SP offerings in general now too. I think that's in large part why the get togethers don't happen often these days. Where the offer of presence and free drinks and fun and likely a client at the end of the night still exists is internationally, but that's just not the mindset here anymore.
Maybe, but it was not all that long ago when the Iggy parties peaked- 2014 and 2015 if my memory is correct. Have things changed that much in 10 years?
 
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Some here might remember why the GTs era from 2013-2017 organized by the Epic Party Planner (EPP= Iggy) ended abrubtly...

One of the reason was because of personal info leak. (The leak happened because of a mistake from the EPP...)
A psycho got his hands on these personal infos and threatened some organizers (The psycho was (is) also a known SP stalker... might still be around who knows)...

Luna mentionned "Negativity in the Air". It was a lot worst by that period...
Different opinions about different subjects here (Sports, Politics etc) divided people.
And among these people, there was some psychos that were taking things way too seriously.
There was at that time also another dying board called MERC where some members on this other board were very mean and some like infamous Tony trolling on merb...
They were threatening to send police, or film people entering GT venues etc...

But despite all this animosity (Animosity against the organizers too), All the GTs were mostly a success and quite safe with lots of attendees (Guys and Gals).
I've heard that VIP#5 GT was visited by morality police but that's the only event of that sort I recall. (I was not there).
I would bet a toony that it was a stunt from the infamous Carol Cash et BookerL that were on a vendetta by that time against EPP, MERB, The World lol...

I went to many GTs. I started with the GoodGirls (GG) GTs (FREE).
Most GTs were free except maybe when GG# GT's turned into "VIP#" GTs (I think I stopped going after VIP#4).
I recall some Private GTs were not free like 100$, like the XO party.
However I also recall the Mojo Party who I believe was free but not sure. GG (GoodGirls) party were free.
VIP's GT were organized by the EPP, not agencies.

There was door prize draw for ladies like Gift certificates etc...

Nobody took over the GT organization job after EPP left .
GT Organisation needs a truly dedicated person or team.
VIP10 has been canceled because of a psycho's threat but VIP 10 strike 2 has been organized by MUH agency about a year after, in july 2018, but not with the same dedication.
Result, it was considered a flop. Not much ladies, not much attendees... So Party Planning is NOT that Easy.

The difficulty for the EPP was to attract agencies that were often in competition.
Indies were usually coming with no hassle...
Not only because it was a good place to get known and maybe make new clients but also because it was a great festive moment.

I personnaly went to the GT for lurking and meet other buddies...
It's a good therapy. No judgmental eyes there...

Immediate banned if you were surprised filming or taking pictures.

I met some very good friends. I met my very best friend Pat98 at GTs.
I met some Indies who became great friends too at GTs. Never booked them though :)
Pat98 was also making private BBQ gt's by that time where some Merbist and indy friends were invited.
But this is another side story... :)

So in conclusion, GTs are great but there may be a dark side if you're not careful enough...
 
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