Agency girls versus Indy girls?

[Fradi]

You are not an Elite client . And it shows. You don’t understand the Elite codes .
The example about your expectations in rates are fair enough for your situation.

I am not an elite client and yet I only see Indies lol.
However I consider the Indies I see being elite and amazing and that is why I keep seeing them.
I will never be part of the agency production line and I prefer more mature ladies 25-40 and preferably not spinners but someone with a nice hour glass figure.

I never have an issue with booking or being able to see them, but I do tend to book 1-2 weeks in advance and give them several different days of the week options. It comes with being retired and being able to adjust your schedule to their availability.

 

[Universe knows]

I am not an elite client and yet I only see Indies lol.
However I consider the Indies I see being elite and amazing and that is why I keep seeing them.
I will never be part of the agency production line and I prefer more mature ladies 25-40 and preferably not spinners but someone with a nice hour glass figure.

I never have an issue with booking or being able to see them, but I do tend to book 1-2 weeks in advance and give them several different days of the week options. It comes with being retired and being able to adjust your schedule to their availability

You book 1-2 weeks in advance which is great for you as you are patient and seem to like planning. But some of the comments that I have seen here were looking for same day booking hence why they say agency girls etc .
Maybe you are very humble which is great . But it’s not all the men who can book only indies girls consistently. Maybe that’s why some on here are frustrated.
About the production line , sounds fair to me . I was once reading on The Toronto board that a client says his regular in Z agency used to see 10 clients a day when she was on schedule. It is crazy . I just imagine how she can handle it physically and mentally and emotionally.
But it is none of my business.

There are agencies girls who go indies , there are girls who do both . Even indies who go to agencies.
They just seek what is good for them.

 

[neverbored]

Dear lord that site looks so fake. The content is attrocious and the pics look like AI from 5 years ago. Even their IG looks 100% fake.

 

[neverbored]

Am I the only person cringing at the use of "Elite" ? Just reads like I'd receive a message from a user called Alpha #1.
This site has 600 pages targetting every single city possible... its a shit SEO model... similar to sweetmontreal back in the day.

But hey... I'm def not elite. But I did see an upscale site once when I was in London. It was only available via direct refferal with no mention of it anywhere online.

Let's just say my tingle is spidering lol

@mods please nuke that link

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I also don't like the words elite or high class or upscale, but I think @Universe knows used that term as a way of explaining how certain things are branded. Meaning there is a category of client who will only see girls who charge a certain rate because in their minds it guarantees a certain level of experience, knowledge, maturity, class etc. and this fits with the type of date they are booking. Obviously this is highly subjective but it's all about what qualities you want to advertise in order to attract the clientele you want. It doesn't necessarily work and from what I've seen that type of branding and reputation takes years to acquire.

This type of branding is strategic and it's not meant to exclude clients who don't belong to a certain social class, it's meant to attract longer bookings in order to have a lower volume of clients, which diminishes health risks (STI, UTI's, yeast infections, covid & other viruses etc) and episodes of burnout.. (mental health consequences) .. That's also one of the reasons why indies tend to have higher rates. We choose to be indies not because we were refused by agencies or parlors, but because we generally don't want to have a very high volume of clients.

 

[Universe knows]

Am I the only person cringing at the use of "Elite" ? Just reads like I'd receive a message from a user called Alpha #1.
This site has 600 pages targetting every single city possible... its a shit SEO model... similar to sweetmontreal back in the day.

But hey... I'm def not elite. But I did see an upscale site once when I was in London. It was only available via direct refferal with no mention of it anywhere online.

Let's just say my tingle is spidering lol

@mods please nuke that link

Maybe it’s a paid advertising. Or maybe it’s not.

 

[Universe knows]

I also don't like the words elite or high class or upscale, but I think @Universe knows used that term as a way of explaining how certain things are branded. Meaning there is a category of client who will only see girls who charge a certain rate because in their minds it guarantees a certain level of experience, knowledge, maturity, class etc. and this fits with the type of date they are booking. Obviously this is highly subjective but it's all about what qualities you want to advertise in order to attract the clientele you want. It doesn't necessarily work and from what I've seen that type of branding and reputation takes years to acquire.

This type of branding is strategic and it's not meant to exclude clients who don't belong to a certain social class, it's meant to attract longer bookings in order to have a lower volume of clients, which diminishes health risks (STI, UTI's, yeast infections, covid & other viruses etc) and episodes of burnout.. (mental health consequences) .. That's also one of the reasons why indies tend to have higher rates. We choose to be indies not because we were refused by agencies or parlors, but because we generally don't want to have a very high volume of clients.

Yeah it’s a strategic branding . It’s all about branding , marketing and advertising to attract customers.
There are different types of elites .
The « typical merb client » sounds cringe too. I understand why some indies have a no review policy or try to avoid review boards men or typical clients. Mostly its because of certain behaviors.

Sounds fair to me about not wanting to deal with a high volume of clients. Having 10 clients in a day like in my previous example is not an easy situation.

 

[LC18]

I knew of one specific Indy that was so hot, I myself considered booking her. When she followed me on Twitter I probably let out a little scream

That’s one of the reasons I don’t believe in this “hotter than” faux debate

The standards you say exist in agencies are based on racism, anti marginalism and body shaming. It’s only changed in the past 5 years after all the girls switched to onlyfans during COVID, agencies found themselves left with barely any staff so they started being less strict about who they hired

I was rejected by 3-4 agencies and they specifically said “we don’t hire black girls”, pretty sure some of my colleagues faced the same issues for reasons mentioned above

 

[LC18]

And the standardization of services? LMAO I hope they all provide similar services, if they don’t they’ll fire them. Why do you think girls are switching from one agency to the other all the time like they’re playing la putain de chaise musicale

 

[Lunaseraphim]

The « typical merb client » sounds cringe too. I understand why some indies have a no review policy or try to avoid review boards men or typical clients. Mostly its because of certain behaviors.

Sounds fair to me about not wanting to deal with a high volume of clients. Having 10 clients in a day like in my previous example is not an easy situation.

A lot of people will say ''if you can't have 10 clients in a day you shouldn't be doing this job at all'', but I disagree. Everyone should be able to work at their own pace if they want to.. If it's convenient for someone to have a high volume of client, that's fine and I will never judge that, but it's not necessarily sustainable for a lot of women. I don't think there is a ''typical client'' but there are definitely certain behaviors I and a lot of girls in the industry want to avoid.

 

[LC18]

10 clients in a day

10 clients a day, 2-3 shots each, some are probably rough with little care for your comfort. My kitty is sore just thinking about it

 

[Julia Sky]

There is nothing discreet about Indys. They want a government ID or LinkedIn. To me agencies are much more discreet. It is a no hassel booking, no name required either. It cannot get more discreet then that.

Several indy providers don't ask for real world info, and agencies run a higher risk of law enforcement getting involved and seizing phones. More volume also means more aware neighbors.

I can see arguments on both sides but I feel like all of those arguments don't really apply across the board on either side of the fence and so at the end of the day due diligence is the key.

 

[Salbandini]

10 clients a day, 2-3 shots each, some are probably rough with little care for your comfort. My kitty is sore just thinking about it

Yep and thats why i rarely book agency. Then you ask why alot of them are “party” type style and need escapes

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I knew of one specific Indy that was so hot, I myself considered booking her. When she followed me on Twitter I probably let out a little scream

That’s one of the reasons I don’t believe in this “hotter than” faux debate

The standards you say exist in agencies are based on racism, anti marginalism and body shaming. It’s only changed in the past 5 years after all the girls switched to onlyfans during COVID, agencies found themselves left with barely any staff so they started being less strict about who they hired

I was rejected by 3-4 agencies and they specifically said “we don’t hire black girls”, pretty sure some of my colleagues faced the same issues for reasons mentioned above

I heard the same thing, that agencies back in the day only hired one very specific type of girl only. In my opinion that's not advantageous for a lot of clients, it's not just a problem for us.

 

[Julia Sky]

I was rejected by 3-4 agencies and they specifically said “we don’t hire black girls”, pretty sure some of my colleagues faced the same issues for reasons mentioned above

An agency rejected me because "our clientele is difficult", whatever that meant considering indies and agencies often use the same websites to advertise.

I never bothered reaching out to an agency after that. I have no problem getting clients and I think "our clientele is difficult" is what they say when they've purposefully curated said clientele around a specific type of body...

 

[Wildstar]

There are indies who see Elite clients who prefer discretion. I doubt any elite client would book agency girls.

Absolutely false, your opinion is invalid. I am a Mega Super Elite client and I book agency girls and so do all my hedge fund and AI tech CEO buddies (we talk about it in our secret society meetings.)

 

[Giselle Montreal]

Dear lord that site looks so fake. The content is attrocious and the pics look like AI from 5 years ago. Even their IG looks 100% fake.

Indeed, that site to me is NOT elite at all. It uses all the cliché words, c'est n'importe quoi.

 

[Universe knows]

A lot of people will say ''if you can't have 10 clients in a day you shouldn't be doing this job at all'', but I disagree. Everyone should be able to work at their own pace if they want to.. If it's convenient for someone to have a high volume of client, that's fine and I will never judge that, but it's not necessarily sustainable for a lot of women. I don't think there is a ''typical client'' but there are definitely certain behaviors I and a lot of girls in the industry want to avoid.

I knew of one specific Indy that was so hot, I myself considered booking her. When she followed me on Twitter I probably let out a little scream

That’s one of the reasons I don’t believe in this “hotter than” faux debate

The standards you say exist in agencies are based on racism, anti marginalism and body shaming. It’s only changed in the past 5 years after all the girls switched to onlyfans during COVID, agencies found themselves left with barely any staff so they started being less strict about who they hired

I was rejected by 3-4 agencies and they specifically said “we don’t hire black girls”, pretty sure some of my colleagues faced the same issues for reasons mentioned above

Sometimes things happens for some reason. Just see the good side about it . You are independent , you keep all your earnings to yourself and manage everything like you want.
If you were working for an agency it would not be the case . There are good things in everything.
The same person who says they don’t « hire black girls » are the same who hire black girls from some specific body type like BBW , with Big ass and big tits . It is mostly like when they are hired it’s for some fantasies, marginalization etc . Not because of who they are as a person but rather than how they look like.
There are one or two black girls now in theses agencies. I don’t know their reasons to hire them and what they did to escape the « we don’t hire black girls here » but hey

Absolutely false, your opinion is invalid. I am a Mega Super Elite client and I book agency girls and so do all my hedge fund and AI tech CEO buddies (we talk about it in our secret society meetings.)

It is a public forum . My opinion valid . It is a public forum.
If you were elite like you claimed to be you wouldn’t have time to answer here .
You want to be an Elite client but you are not .
Which okay and there is nothing wrong with that. Like I said before there some very Elite agencies for very elite clients who don’t don’t do one hour bookings . It is multiple hours bookings and multiple days bookings.
You are just a « faux riche »
There is nothing wrong with having money or not but , when someone pretends while in reality they don’t have the money that’s an another situation.

 

[Wildstar]

It is a public forum . My opinion valid . It is a public forum.
If you were elite like you claimed to be you wouldn’t have time to answer here .
You want to be an Elite client but you are not .
Which okay and there is nothing wrong with that. Like I said before there some very Elite agencies for very elite clients who don’t don’t do one hour bookings . It is multiple hours bookings and multiple days bookings.
You are just a « faux riche »
There is nothing wrong with having money or not but , when someone pretends while in reality they don’t have the money that’s an another situation.

Your opinion is quite invalid. You only post here because Mega Super Elite clients like me permit clueless Non Elite rabble like you to fling incorrect opinions into the digital ether.

You know nothing about the Mega Super Elite. I have time to post here because my people handle all of the small details of my Global Mega Elite Empire.

Multiple days bookings? Extreme poverty. I book multiple Mega Super Elite Girls for multiple months; I have a Global Elite Entourage.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

An agency rejected me because "our clientele is difficult", whatever that meant considering indies and agencies often use the same websites to advertise.

I never bothered reaching out to an agency after that. I have no problem getting clients and I think "our clientele is difficult" is what they say when they've purposefully curated said clientele around a specific type of body...

I feel like it's actually more likely that agencies are curating their staff based on what they believe a very vocal clientele wants. Certain fantasies, types of bookings, etc. When in reality that's far from being what everybody wants.

I know many people who told me various stories about working for agencies during different eras and their experiences vary considerably. All I know is that more than one person told me the client base at agencies has gotten worse in the past 5 years, with many clients pushing boundaries and going as far as removing condoms.

This fits my personal experience with a certain type of client who sees a lot of agency providers honestly. Thankfully I'm aware that a lot of respectful clients see agency girls, including some of my clients.