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Doc Holliday

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I befriended a porn actor in Montreal years ago (he made some bad decisions so his life and work are temporarily on pause).

Life in porn is hard, even more so for males. The pay is much lower, performance demands are high (can’t wing it), the gay aspect is unavoidable and it affects your life and relationships after. You have to hustle all the time.

My friend also stripped and had a lot of sex with female customers but think very fat women more than anything (and you must be hard even if they smell!). A lot of gay sex too, giving and receiving. Not always in safe environments. He had resorted to not cumming in his personal life to be able to shoot hard in scenes.

I think of it like baseball. I was a great player in my teens and 20’s and got compliments on my bat and swing all the time.

Then you meet guys in the big show and you realize their bat and swing are much bigger and harder than yours and the ball that made you so proud, they hit better than that every day.

If you were meant for the big leagues someone would have plucked you…

But you can hope to be one of 1000 men with lily philips maybe :)
Being a male porn actor isn’t as glamorous as people may believe. The pay is peanuts plus as you mentioned you must be open to constantly performing in things that are degrading to you & the things you asked to do to your partners often end up taking an emotional toll on you & if the actor himself wasn’t already fucked up then he soon will be. And if he refuses to do these things he’ll be replaced by someone else. So really he might as well leave the business because it’s no longer lucrative anyway. This isn’t the 70’s & 80’s when there were very few porn stars around & the pay was worth it as compared to the past twenty years. However when you do this type of stuff it shouldn’t be for the pay. It’s usually has more to do with a love for exhibitionism & personal ego.

My lifelong obsession with porn & my curiosity to appear in front of the camera began in the late 70’s when i purchased a Sony Betamax with my very first bank loan. My father could have easily lent me the money but he told me he would prefer coming to the bank with me & borrow instead since it would be a valuable life lesson in how finance works. I had a small part-time job at the time and paying off that loan felt like an eternity! Anyways the Betamax was a one (a year old) and the guy who sold me the vcr had given my father a few tapes to give me & my father had told me one of the tapes was ‘dirty’ so he had decided to keep it from me. I was in my early teens at the time & wasn’t sure what a ‘dirty’ tape meant. Maybe it risked damaging the machine, who knows. So i just said ok. It also came with a black & white movie camera. Cool! I loved filming movies with the old super 8 videocamera so i could start making my own movies with my friends & did! I remember remaking my own version of Rocky! Lol. However one night my family was away so i snuck into my father’s desk drawer to check out his Hustler magazine stash & what did i find also? A Betamax tape! This must be that ‘dirty’ tape he had mentioned! So out of curiosity i decided to put it into my machine & OMG! I felt like my life had changed immediately! It was a porn tape! It had two movies on it: Deep Throat & the Devil in Miss Jones! OMG! I couldn’t believe was i was seeing! Naked people showing their dicks & vaginas! Dicks going into mouths! Objects going into pussies & assholes! Dicks going into vaginas & in then dicks going into assholes! I couldn’t believe i was watching such a thing! I was in shock! Anyways i decided to keep the tape since i felt it was mine to begin with. My father never asked about it. I’m certain he noticed that the tape was missing. But from that moment watching that tape became a daily thing & likely got me hooked to sex & porn from that first moment i watched that tape. So now the videocamera became more useful. Since it constantly had to be plugged into the vcr it hadn’t been practical for filming stuff so i rarely used it. But now i discovered that i could film my own nude & masturbation videos! The tape & the camera had opened an entire new world for me! And it got me into wanting to go out with girls & hopefully have sex with them once i’d finally take that load off my shoulders & lose my virginity! But that would come later…. Lol.

Anyways i started exchanging porn tapes with friends. By now i had bought a second vcr so we’d make our own copies. That’s how i ended up with my Swedish Erotica collection. And of course Seka, whom I thought was the ultimate sex goddess! Marilyn Chambers never really did anything for me. I found her annoying! Linda Lovelace was a pro at giving great head but too unattractive for me. Same thing with Georgina Spelvin which i found too old for my liking. But one i liked was Serena, the anal sex queen. Lynx Canyon was my perfect pornstar. But i also liked the male actors like John Holmes, Jamie Gillis & John Leslie. I loved the raw brutally at the way the last two fucked. I liked watching Holmes’ 14 inch dick pounding away in pussies & occasionally assholes! Wow! And one of my favorites was Harry Reems, who acted in the first two porn movies i saw. I think i may have liked him the most at the time because i found that our dicks were very similar in look & size. When i saw closeups it almost seemed like it was my dick pounding away! However i was still a virgin so i could only fantasize it was me! Lol. But that’s when i probably got the idea that appearing in porn movies must be fun as hell! You get to fuck all these hot women & do dirty degrading acts to one another & you even get paid for it! Wow! How great would that be? Lol. But it was just a dream.

If i could re-do my life & go back in time & knowing all i know now i maybe would go back to the late 70’s/early 80’s classic porn era as my former 18-20 year old self & head off to Hollywood to enter the porn business. For me that’s when porn was at its best. The movies made were of very good quality prior to the VHS era. The acting was solid. The women & men attractive & into the sex. I could easily see myself having sex with the likes of Seka, Annette Haven, Lymx Canyon, Nancy Suiter, Ginger Lynn, Stacy Donovan, Nicky Charm, Christy Canyon, Amber Lynn & Shane! I could also very easily see myself in a dp scene with the likes of Jamie Gillis, Tom Byron, Marc Wallice & TT Boy, who’s styles i often emulated when i was having sex while in my prime years. These guys were my heroes! Lol. And eventually i could move on to other things, like directing, producing & acting in my own movies like Seymore Butts & later Rocco Siffredi! Gonzo porn would be my thing & i’d master it! Then i could start doing casting videos like ECG & GDP did & perform in own successful video series casting new up & coming starlets! Hey if an old ugly geezer like Ed Powers could successfully do it i definitely could too & much better! Lol.
 
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Doc Holliday

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I would assume that because of the shortlisted cancellations (and your refusal :p) that they didn't have anyone from the form and went with a van!

Nonetheless thanks for sharing this interesting behind the scene!
The van was likely part of the script but i hadn’t previously been told what the movie would be about. I never bothered to ask because i never even expected to be offered the part. However one thing that came out of this was that i began a correspondence with Bailey after this. She wrote to me to ask me why i didn’t want to shoot with her. She took it personal & said it hurt her feelings/ego. We started texting regularly. She seemed nice & genuine…naive actually. But her initial success kind of went to her head & a year or two later when she was no longer much in demand she had a hard time coping with it. Especially when the producers would tell her that she had got fat. That one she hated to hear! She’d tell me that there was no way she was fat & that she still wore the same size as when she started in the business! She’d text me pictures of her boobs & ass & ask me if i thought she was fat! Well her boobs had got slightly bigger & her ass rounder but i didn’t mention that part to her. I think she was only like 5’1” so on a small frame like that just gaining 5 lbs shows. I told her that she should enter a gym to get in better cardiovascular shape…she had never ever worked out! Told her to buy a threadmill. Told her to see & hire a nutritionist. But i’m sure it came into one ear & out the other. But over time we stopped corresponding. I had started to find her terribly annoying. Always complaining. Always blaming others. Always negative. I told her maybe she should leave porn & go back to Virginia. That advice turned her against me…she said as a loyal friend or whatever that i should be more supportive. Anyways i lost touch with her & had my own problems to deal with so good riddance! To my surprise (or maybe not) she’s still in the business. Not in mainstream porn but on OF. She’s supposedly in a relationship with a fellow porn actor on OF & they are supposedly very happy. She looks pretty trashy & overweight/out of shape now but looked good in a picture she took a few months ago.
 

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Being a male porn actor isn’t as glamorous as people may believe. The pay is peanuts plus as you mentioned you must be open to constantly performing in things that are degrading to you & the things you asked to do to your partners often end up taking an emotional toll on you & if the actor himself wasn’t already fucked up then he soon will be. And if he refuses to do these things he’ll be replaced by someone else. So really he might as well leave the business because it’s no longer lucrative anyway. This isn’t the 70’s & 80’s when there were very few porn stars around & the pay was worth it as compared to the past twenty years. However when you do this type of stuff it shouldn’t be for the pay. It’s usually has more to do with a love for exhibitionism & personal ego.

My lifelong obsession with porn & my curiosity to appear in front of the camera began in the late 70’s when i purchased a Sony Betamax with my very first bank loan. My father could have easily lent me the money but he told me he would prefer coming to the bank with me & borrow instead since it would be a valuable life lesson in how finance works. I had a small part-time job at the time and paying off that loan felt like an eternity! Anyways the Betamax was a one (a year old) and the guy who sold me the vcr had given my father a few tapes to give me & my father had told me one of the tapes was ‘dirty’ so he had decided to keep it from me. I was in my early teens at the time & wasn’t sure what a ‘dirty’ tape meant. Maybe it risked damaging the machine, who knows. So i just said ok. It also came with a black & white movie camera. Cool! I loved filming movies with the old super 8 videocamera so i could start making my own movies with my friends & did! I remember remaking my own version of Rocky! Lol. However one night my family was away so i snuck into my father’s desk drawer to check out his Hustler magazine stash & what did i find also? A Betamax tape! This must be that ‘dirty’ tape he had mentioned! So out of curiosity i decided to put it into my machine & OMG! I felt like my life had changed immediately! It was a porn tape! It had two movies on it: Deep Throat & the Devil in Miss Jones! OMG! I couldn’t believe was i was seeing! Naked people showing their dicks & vaginas! Dicks going into mouths! Objects going into pussies & assholes! Dicks going into vaginas & in then dicks going into assholes! I couldn’t believe i was watching such a thing! I was in shock! Anyways i decided to keep the tape since i felt it was mine to begin with. My father never asked about it. I’m certain he noticed that the tape was missing. But from that moment watching that tape became a daily thing & likely got me hooked to sex & porn from that first moment i watched that tape. So now the videocamera became more useful. Since it constantly had to be plugged into the vcr it hadn’t been practical for filming stuff so i rarely used it. But now i discovered that i could film my own nude & masturbation videos! The tape & the camera had opened an entire new world for me! And it got me into wanting to go out with girls & hopefully have sex with them once i’d finally take that load off my shoulders & lose my virginity! But that would come later…. Lol.

Anyways i started exchanging porn tapes with friends. By now i had bought a second vcr so we’d make our own copies. That’s how i ended up with my Swedish Erotica collection. And of course Seka, whom I thought was the ultimate sex goddess! Marilyn Chambers never really did anything for me. I found her annoying! Linda Lovelace was a pro at giving great head but too unattractive for me. Same thing with Georgina Spelvin which i found too old for my liking. But one i liked was Serena, the anal sex queen. Lynx Canyon was my perfect pornstar. But i also liked the male actors like John Holmes, Jamie Gillis & John Leslie. I loved the raw brutally at the way the last two fucked. I liked watching Holmes’ 14 inch dick pounding away in pussies & occasionally assholes! Wow! And one of my favorites was Harry Reems, who acted in the first two porn movies i saw. I think i may have liked him the most at the time because i found that our dicks were very similar in look & size. When i saw closeups it almost seemed like it was my dick pounding away! However i was still a virgin so i could only fantasize it was me! Lol. But that’s when i probably got the idea that appearing in porn movies must be fun as hell! You get to fuck all these hot women & do dirty degrading acts to one another & you even get paid for it! Wow! How great would that be? Lol. But it was just a dream.

If i could re-do my life & go back in time & knowing all i know now i maybe would go back to the late 70’s/early 80’s classic porn era as my former 18-20 year old self & head off to Hollywood to enter the porn business. For me that’s when porn was at its best. The movies made were of very good quality prior to the VHS era. The acting was solid. The women & men attractive & into the sex. I could easily see myself having sex with the likes of Seka, Annette Haven, Lymx Canyon, Nancy Suiter, Ginger Lynn, Stacy Donovan, Nicky Charm, Christy Canyon, Amber Lynn & Shane! I could also very easily see myself in a dp scene with the likes of Jamie Gillis, Tom Byron, Marc Wallice & TT Boy, who’s styles i often emulated when i was having sex while in my prime years. These guys were my heroes! Lol. And eventually i could move on to other things, like directing, producing & acting in my own movies like Seymore Butts & later Rocco Siffredi! Gonzo porn would be my thing & i’d master it! Then i could start doing casting videos like ECG & GDP did & perform in own successful video series casting new up & coming starlets! Hey if an old ugly geezer like Ed Powers could successfully do it i definitely could too & much better! Lol.
Yeah, I can’t figure out if the actor I befriended got messed up by porn or was attracted to porn because he was messed up… but hopefully he reflected on this while in prison.
 
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I am not sure to make the link between his cruelty against animals and his notoriety in the porn industry?
No it is just because you talked about him, I assumed you did not know he was infamous.

Btw those charges did not end his porn career, shows what matters and what does not :)
 

Doc Holliday

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Yeah, I can’t figure out if the actor I befriended got messed up by porn or was attracted to porn because he was messed up… but hopefully he reflected on this while in prison.
From my experIence it’s more than likely a little bit of both. You just don’t decide one day that you’re either going to start taking your clothes off or fucking in front of the camera for money. There’s something in your character or in your genes which makes you want to deviate from the norm. Really it’s no different than most of the men & women in the escort business including myself. Even the most down-to-earth girl in this business told me this about herself & the majority of women she had met in this business & i told her i had the exact same theory: that you have to be damaged in some way to even want to or have the nerve to enter this business or participate in it. And if not then you will be once you’re in & the longer you remain in.
 

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Even the most down-to-earth girl in this business told me this about herself & the majority of women she had met in this business & i told her i had the exact same theory: that you have to be damaged in some way to even want to or have the nerve to enter this business or participate in it. And if not then you will be once you’re in & the longer you remain in.
It's funny because like 1-2 days ago I was doing some retrospection and were thinking about myself as "Good boy gone wild" ...
 

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The van was likely part of the script but i hadn’t previously been told what the movie would be about. I never bothered to ask because i never even expected to be offered the part. However one thing that came out of this was that i began a correspondence with Bailey after this. She wrote to me to ask me why i didn’t want to shoot with her. She took it personal & said it hurt her feelings/ego. We started texting regularly. She seemed nice & genuine…naive actually. But her initial success kind of went to her head & a year or two later when she was no longer much in demand she had a hard time coping with it. Especially when the producers would tell her that she had got fat. That one she hated to hear! She’d tell me that there was no way she was fat & that she still wore the same size as when she started in the business! She’d text me pictures of her boobs & ass & ask me if i thought she was fat! Well her boobs had got slightly bigger & her ass rounder but i didn’t mention that part to her. I think she was only like 5’1” so on a small frame like that just gaining 5 lbs shows. I told her that she should enter a gym to get in better cardiovascular shape…she had never ever worked out! Told her to buy a threadmill. Told her to see & hire a nutritionist. But i’m sure it came into one ear & out the other. But over time we stopped corresponding. I had started to find her terribly annoying. Always complaining. Always blaming others. Always negative. I told her maybe she should leave porn & go back to Virginia. That advice turned her against me…she said as a loyal friend or whatever that i should be more supportive. Anyways i lost touch with her & had my own problems to deal with so good riddance! To my surprise (or maybe not) she’s still in the business. Not in mainstream porn but on OF. She’s supposedly in a relationship with a fellow porn actor on OF & they are supposedly very happy. She looks pretty trashy & overweight/out of shape now but looked good in a picture she took a few months ago.
I don't know when was your casting and how far it's from this picture of her but she is quite cute!
I guess that's how harsh this industry is ...
 
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