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Smitty Jaeger-Manjenson

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Controversial opinion but I think the Odyssey sucked.

Not only there were no real Greek actors casted for a Greek story but they even had modern day rappers in the movie!

Everyone spoke modern day English and even used the words Fuck in the film!

Also too, Helen of Troy was portrayed by an African American, not a Greek! Helen of Troy was always Greek!

Where was the proper cultural representation in this film?!?

It's like Christopher Nolan decided to make a woke Odyssey film.

The most in-authenthic Odyssey film ever.

There was no authenticity to the film. Im sorry but I don't buy Matt Damon as a Greek. He's a Bostonian pretending to be Greek and made no attempt to have an accent!

The "Hollywood washing" of this story took me out of it. Couldn't enjoy the film.
You vill consume ze slop and you vill be happy.

I'd say the most entertaining part of the whole movie was when the crew wandered onto the island that had already advanced to the Middle Ages and they get ROFLstomped by the giant knights in plate armor. :^)

"Welcome to Medieval times, bitch!"
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Controversial opinion but I think the Odyssey sucked.

Not only there were no real Greek actors casted for a Greek story but they even had modern day rappers in the movie!

Everyone spoke modern day English and even used the words Fuck in the film!

Also too, Helen of Troy was portrayed by an African American, not a Greek! Helen of Troy was always Greek!

Where was the proper cultural representation in this film?!?

It's like Christopher Nolan decided to make a woke Odyssey film.

The most in-authenthic Odyssey film ever.

There was no authenticity to the film. Im sorry but I don't buy Matt Damon as a Greek. He's a Bostonian pretending to be Greek and made no attempt to have an accent!

The "Hollywood washing" of this story took me out of it. Couldn't enjoy the film.
I thought it an excellent film. The film is simply one artist's interpretation of an epic poem that was only committed to writing 800 to a thousand years after the countless additions to the original oral tradition of the story came into being. Remember, both the Iliad and the Odyssey grew from an oral tradition, because the post Mycenean society that arose after the collapse of the Bronze Age was only on the verge of literacy. Also, whether or not the actors spoke in English, Swahili, or whatever other language one could possibly think of, Nolan attempted to make a film that would bring this timeless story to our own age and times. Whether or not rappers, or Trans people or any other kind of so-called 'woke' interpretation are involved is again immaterial, because it is the universal story that really counts, endlessly open to many rich interpretations of the original source material. Finally, who cares if Helen of Troy was played by a black woman or not (after all, her role was actually quite small in the overall scheme of the film). After all, these are all mythological characters. To my mind, Nolan perfectly captured the essence of this work, one of two foundational works of Western Civilization. Interesting footnote: since both the Illiad and The Odyssey arose within a purely oral tradition, most likely the bards sang the material accompanied by stringed instruments to their enraptured audiences who could neither read nor write. I refer you all to check out Michael Wood's amazing 1985 documentary series, In Search of the Trojan War, particularly episode 3, 'The Singer of Tales," which gives one the flavor of what an oral performance might have been like during the post-Bronze Age.
 
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Smitty Jaeger-Manjenson

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I thought it an excellent film. The film is simply one artist's interpretation of an epic poem that was only committed to writing 800 to a thousand years after the countless additions to the original oral tradition of the story came into being. Remember, both the Iliad and the Odyssey grew from an oral tradition, because the post Mycenean society that arose after the collapse of the Bronze Age was only on the verge of literacy. Also, whether or not the actors spoke in English, Swahili, or whatever other language one could possibly think of, Nolan attempted to make a film that would bring this timeless story to our own age and times. Whether or not rappers, or Trans people or any other kind of so-called 'woke' interpretation are involved is again immaterial, because it is the universal story that really counts, endlessly open to many rich interpretations of the original source material. Finally, who cares if Helen of Troy was played by a black woman or not (after all, her role was actually quite small in the overall scheme of the film). After all, these are all mythological characters. To my mind, Nolan perfectly captured the essence of this work, one of two foundational works of Western Civilization. Interesting footnote: since both the Illiad and The Odyssey arose within a purely oral tradition, most likely the bards sang the material accompanied by stringed instruments to their enraptured audiences who could neither read nor write. I refer you all to check out Michael Wood's amazing 1985 documentary series, In Search of the Trojan War, particularly episode 3, 'The Singer of Tales," which gives one the flavor of what an oral performance might have been like during the post-Bronze Age.
I believe that Nolan displayed a master class of trolling everyone. The casting of Helen of Troy was ragebait, all publicity is good publicity, and it ultimately led to what exactly? The character being used largely as window dressing and the actress being led around by the nose with the notion that her role was of any importance, when her screen time marks her s glorified extra. In doing so, Nolan the master manipulator is laughing his ass off at both the moral guardians and at the Hollyweird DEI crowd who took his casting as some sort of moral victory. In the end, he gave everyone the finger, including his very own ecosystem. An intriguingly nihilistic man.

I'm still waiting for the adaptation of Roots with a Gaulish slave brought to Rome in chains. "Why not re-adapt Spartacus?", because Roots is a work of fiction that serves as a universal story. Fight for your freedom, Kuntakintus. :p
 
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