Advice - Crossing to Montreal for Getaway

[bl3ujay07]

Hi everyone. I am a new member of this site but not new to the hobby. I was a myredbook member, memeber of USGA, and have some reviews on TER. I am from Wisconsin and will be in Detroit for a work convention. I decided to take three days off after the convention and INTEND to cross the border into Canada via driving. I say intend because I am afraid of not being able to get in (OWI almost 5 years ago) but since I will be near the border, I might as well try!

First off, I smile everytime I frequent MERB because comparing it to the US, Montreal is paradise for hobbying. I intend to be in town, granted I get through the border, on a wednesday until friday, maybe even saturday depending on how I "feel".

I have been frequently checking out the agencies and OMFG!!! I might just have a heart attack .....if i can somehow set up an appointment! The days that I do check the agencies' postings, almost all the models are booked! Can anyone help give me some advice to help me increase my chances of being able to set up an appointment with some of these drop dead gorgeous Montreal women? I am assuming prebooking a day or two in advance is best but I will only be in Montreal for a short period of time. Is there some kind of long waitlist? I appreciate any and all advice.

Lastly, a question. In the states, from my experience, i have only had two rendezvous where having an hour appointment actually last and hour. Most times, I opt for a half hour because I know I dont have the stamina to last an hour with only one shot and the girl or I will be out the door within 20-30 minutes. Does an hour appointment actually mean the full hour, MSOG (multiple shot on goal), etc?

Thanks in advance to anyone and everyone who helps!

 

[tiannas]

Prepare to have difficulties at the border. This information from the Canadian immigration site: "If you have been convicted of driving while impaired by alcohol or drugs, you will probably be found criminally inadmissible to Canada."
Check out the link for options: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/

 

[slow-lover]

I have a house in the US and I know a bunch of guys
DWI record and forget it you will not cross the border!
You need aftr so many year to ask for your record to be erased

If you should find that you can cross, You should fly to Platsburg NY and rent a car for a 45 minutes drive to Montreal

Have fun we own the best girl in the world

 

[bl3ujay07]

Yes, an hour is an hour, and MSOG is the standard. You will also be pleasantly surprised that BBBJ is standard instead of CBJs. Montreal is a great place. Redbook was on the lower end of US mongering, so Montreal will certainly be a step up from anyone you saw using Redbook or usasexguide. The $200 Canadian providers are generally equivalent to the typical $400-$500 an hour US escorts, who do generally stay the full hour and allow multiples, by the way.

The agency that often lists most of its providers as fully booked is certainly a fantastic agency, but that is the exception to the rule. If you will read the reviews, you can make a list of six or so agencies and it is a certainty that one of them will have someone available that you want to see.

I am a little confused about crossing from Detroit. If you do so by car, you realize you will be in Windsor, not Montreal, correct?

i agree with redbook being on the lower end of the hobby in the US and how the rates in Montreal is so much favorable for those of us in the US visiting. I hobby often so seeing $500+ /hr providers is not an economical option for me. With the exchange rate right now, if I can get into Canada, I'll be smiling all the way to the bank!

I am am aware of the long drive to Montreal from Canada. I have booked a flight and hotel two years ago for Montreal but had to make last minute changes to my itenerary the night of the flight after have read up on OWI and getting in via flight. At least if I get turned down at the border, I won't be loosing so much money. Plus this time, I booked a hotel that would allow me to cancel the reservation up to the date of which helps tremendously.

 

[smuler]

I could understand denying a car rental because of a DUI, but why the hell can't someone fly in and use mass transit? It makes no sense.

I interpreted this as driving across the border, not flying

Best Regards
Smuler

 

[jalimon]

i agree with redbook being on the lower end of the hobby in the US and how the rates in Montreal is so much favorable for those of us in the US visiting. I hobby often so seeing $500+ /hr providers is not an economical option for me. With the exchange rate right now, if I can get into Canada, I'll be smiling all the way to the bank!

I am am aware of the long drive to Montreal from Canada. I have booked a flight and hotel two years ago for Montreal but had to make last minute changes to my itenerary the night of the flight after have read up on OWI and getting in via flight. At least if I get turned down at the border, I won't be loosing so much money. Plus this time, I booked a hotel that would allow me to cancel the reservation up to the date of which helps tremendously.

You should really to get your record cleared. You can do after 5 years in Michigan. Will cost you money and time, but after that no more restriction

 

[smuler]

You should really to get your record cleared. You can do after 5 years in Michigan. Will cost you money and time, but after that no more restriction

Did you ever get a price quote to get your record expunged ?

Best Regards
Smuler

 

[jalimon]

Yes, I mismanaged my flow of thoughts.

It might be a reasonable exercise of government and police power to prohibit someone with a DUI from crossing the border in a car, or from keeping someone with a DUI from renting a car. This is a stretch, but maybe.

But no rational reason exists to prohibit a tourist from flying in and taking cabs and mass transit. If they wanted to keep tourists with prior DUIs from renting a car, they could create a Form as a person enters immigration that has a box for Allowed to Rent a Car, and Not Allowed.

Most tourists who fly in do not want yo rent a car, anyway. So Canada loses a lot of tourist dollars.

I agree with you it's really crazy to refuse entry to your country for someone with a DUI charge 5 years ago!

By the way you could also fill this form http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/permits.asp to ask for a visiting permit, but you need to state a valid reason. Visiting the beautiful SP of Montreal might not be the best reason to give, unfortunately

Cheers,

 

[tiannas]

It might be a reasonable exercise of government and police power to prohibit someone with a DUI from crossing the border in a car, or from keeping someone with a DUI from renting a car. This is a stretch, but maybe.

But no rational reason exists to prohibit a tourist from flying in and taking cabs and mass transit. If they wanted to keep tourists with prior DUIs from renting a car, they could create a Form as a person enters immigration that has a box for Allowed to Rent a Car, and Not Allowed.

Most tourists who fly in do not want yo rent a car, anyway. So Canada loses a lot of tourist dollars.

The admissibility has nothing to do with renting a car. DUI is a criminal charge in Canada, if you have been convicted of this crime, you are then a convicted criminal in their eyes, and therefore not welcome here. I've heard many stories of people being turned away, both at land and air crossings. Border agents can be jerks.

 

[talkinghead]

This sounds like something I would have done in my salad days. 1) I strongly agree that Montreal has the best value around, but wow that seems like a long way to drive. Assuming some traffic and time at the border, it'll completely knock out two full days. Don't get me wrong--I love Montreal!--but I'd think hard about that drive. (I suppose you are already "thinking hard.") I haven't hobbied in Toronto in maybe 20 years, but I remember it as being fine, though more expensive than Montreal. Have you looked at terb? I took a quick look and yes it's more expensive, but not wildly so. How many people drive from Toronto to Montreal for the treats? That's a real question; I don't know the Toronto scene at all. 2) I have never had a problem setting up an appointment with an agency the same day, or with an independent a few days before. You could contact an indy, explain the situation, and ask if she is willing to pencil you in; you could confirm in the morning if/when you cross the border. Some of the indies are no more costly than the agencies. Otherwise, some agencies let you book a day or so in advance. 3) The fact is that even if Montreal is better than other places, at least in terms of value, it's still "the hobby." Dates get cancelled, times get moved around, girls have good/bad nights, etc. My two visits include one cancellation and one delay (and both times worked out fine). Do your research but be flexible. And I know that you are not new to this, but keep your expectations in check ... and you may end up being miraculously surprised!

 

[bl3ujay07]

Yes, I mismanaged my flow of thoughts.

It might be a reasonable exercise of government and police power to prohibit someone with a DUI from crossing the border in a car, or from keeping someone with a DUI from renting a car. This is a stretch, but maybe.

But no rational reason exists to prohibit a tourist from flying in and taking cabs and mass transit. If they wanted to keep tourists with prior DUIs from renting a car, they could create a Form as a person enters immigration that has a box for Allowed to Rent a Car, and Not Allowed.

Most tourists who fly in do not want yo rent a car, anyway. So Canada loses a lot of tourist dollars.

I suspect that the good folks in Windsor have caught on to this whole sex for money thing, so I can't help but be curious what the scene is there. Michigan is one of the least hobby-friendly states in the U.S., primarily because the local office of the federal government in Detroit hates prostitution. It was the Detroit office of the FBI that went after the largest agency in the U.S.. Miami Companions.

Detroit ain't what it used to be, but there have to be a few rich guys that go from Detriot to Windsor for the weekend for fun.

You might want to check the TER reviews for Windsor. A quick google search reveals the existence of Windsor escort services.

This seems grounds for expungement of the old DUI in the States. Judge, look at this round trip driving I have to do through rural Canada to get an affordable hour with an escort compared to U.S. pricing instead of just taking a two-hour direct flight from Detroit because I never know when the Canadians will hassle me, so I do not want to buy a nonrefundable plane ticket.

This is almost as bad as c-36. I could understand denying a car rental because of a DUI, but why the hell can't someone fly in and use mass transit? It makes no sense.

Montreal is actually after I visit a cousin/sister and her family that we I havent seen for some 7+ years near Kitchener. If i am declined entrance at the boarder, at least I'll still have my car and detour to somewhere else in the states. I have about 5 days off from work so might as well. I am choosing to do Montreal because why not?! I have heard of great things about Montreal and I want first hand experience.

I agree with denying a flight into Canada. I would rather go that route if it helps ensure confidence that I won't be driving by banning car rentals to anyone with a OWI/DUI offense. I don't really intend to drive my car really once I am in town. It's a lesson learned and after taking classes and such, I am much more informed and have changed.

 

[bl3ujay07]

And the $200 fee makes it even harder to drive those 8 hours each way to achieve the Canadian price difference.

Still surprised there is no Werb (Windsor Escort Review Board) experience.

I am visiting for the experience. Not that I have tons of money to just throw away but that money doesn't mean as much to me as the experience. I mean I wouldn't mind Toronto but I am driving that far already, why not just drive a bit further? That is my logic.

 

[bl3ujay07]

The admissibility has nothing to do with renting a car. DUI is a criminal charge in Canada, if you have been convicted of this crime, you are then a convicted criminal in their eyes, and therefore not welcome here. I've heard many stories of people being turned away, both at land and air crossings. Border agents can be jerks.

I see where they are coming about being criminals in their eyes. I somewhat don't blame them, but i think everyone deserves a second chance. People make mistakes (especially during the partying years of college) and learn from them! I've learned a lot from getting an OWI and when I think about it, I think it was a good thing I got caught before I end up killing myself or worse, someone else. That stage of crazy drinking and recklessness is done and over with and I know better than to let my luck especially with working in the real world now.

I have read a lot of stories about people being turned away and I'll be okay if I get turned away. I'll no doubt be upset but I'll be okay. I messed up and these are the consequences of the dumb mistakes I made. Got to suck it up as life moves on.

 

[bl3ujay07]

This sounds like something I would have done in my salad days. 1) I strongly agree that Montreal has the best value around, but wow that seems like a long way to drive. Assuming some traffic and time at the border, it'll completely knock out two full days. Don't get me wrong--I love Montreal!--but I'd think hard about that drive. (I suppose you are already "thinking hard.") I haven't hobbied in Toronto in maybe 20 years, but I remember it as being fine, though more expensive than Montreal. Have you looked at terb? I took a quick look and yes it's more expensive, but not wildly so. How many people drive from Toronto to Montreal for the treats? That's a real question; I don't know the Toronto scene at all. 2) I have never had a problem setting up an appointment with an agency the same day, or with an independent a few days before. You could contact an indy, explain the situation, and ask if she is willing to pencil you in; you could confirm in the morning if/when you cross the border. Some of the indies are no more costly than the agencies. Otherwise, some agencies let you book a day or so in advance. 3) The fact is that even if Montreal is better than other places, at least in terms of value, it's still "the hobby." Dates get cancelled, times get moved around, girls have good/bad nights, etc. My two visits include one cancellation and one delay (and both times worked out fine). Do your research but be flexible. And I know that you are not new to this, but keep your expectations in check ... and you may end up being miraculously surprised!

I've thought long and hard. I am originally from California and have made frequent drive to LA and San Diego. LA is about a 5 hour drive and San Diego is about an 8 hour drive. Plus, the 2000+ mile road trip moving from California to Wisconsin was tiring, but very enjoyable.

If I eventually do get in, I tend to get to Montreal by Check-In time, walk the city and do whatever, and start trying to set things up for the following day. I hope i don't hit any snags trying to schedule a/several rendezvous. Thanks for the advice, and i'll have to TRY and keep my expectations in check. I am pretty confident that it'll be much greater than the midwest scene. I am pretty stoked about just visiting let alone rendezvousing with some gorgeous Montreal women. I just have to get over the biggest hurdle...the border.

 

[bl3ujay07]

Makes sense. One of the things Americans like about Montreal is that it is like France, but with a much better hobby scene.

Of course, many Americans like Toronto because it is a clean, polite version of NYC.

Both are better vacation destinations than Detroit. That is not just an opinion

And I was not being critical of you. I was being critical of Canada.

A lifetime ban from entry for a DUI. Really? I remember waiting for the 747 bus to the airport at 4 am (for a 6:30 am flight) on that main drag in Montreal once in the summer when it was really hot and people were driving slowly and body surfing on top of some cars. I guess the bars must close about that time. Think any of the drivers were drunk?

Funny you mention it being like France because I had intended to go to France for quite some time. I have quite a few relatives from France but just never have the time available to visit for as long as I would really like. This really is the closes thing to France for me...at least for this year.

LOL at Toronto being a clean, polite version of NYC. If I get through the border, ill be able to visit a cleaner and more polite New York and France in less than a week! That would be one trip to remember!

I have yet to visit Detroit but have heard a lot about it. I don't intend to stay in Detroit for the vacation. I may just have to settle for the real dirty and rude NYC for a Toronto-like experience then

 

[bl3ujay07]

You should really to get your record cleared. You can do after 5 years in Michigan. Will cost you money and time, but after that no more restriction

I agree with you it's really crazy to refuse entry to your country for someone with a DUI charge 5 years ago!

By the way you could also fill this form http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/permits.asp to ask for a visiting permit, but you need to state a valid reason. Visiting the beautiful SP of Montreal might not be the best reason to give, unfortunately

Cheers,

I wish there was a way to get the OWI/DUI expunged and if there is, i don't know of it. If I could, I definitely would.

I went through cic but all it does is take me to an eTA questionnaire that in the end, says that i "may not need an eTA to visit Canada" but also has links to criminal inadmissibility. I signed up for an account and all but can not (for the life of me) find the link/application to apply for a Temporary Visitors Permit! I check like almost everyday hoping to find it but have not been able to. I have read online that I can apply for the permit at the boarder and pay the $200 fee right there. Whether I am granted or am declined a permit right then and there to visit my cousin and her family that I have not seen for some 7+ years ill be okay. At least I know I tried.

 

[Howards Johnson]

Enjoy the city, enjoy the food, the drink and girls. All in moderation.

 

[talkinghead]

I wish there was a way to get the OWI/DUI expunged and if there is, i don't know of it. If I could, I definitely would.

I went through cic but all it does is take me to an eTA questionnaire that in the end, says that i "may not need an eTA to visit Canada" but also has links to criminal inadmissibility. I signed up for an account and all but can not (for the life of me) find the link/application to apply for a Temporary Visitors Permit! I check like almost everyday hoping to find it but have not been able to. I have read online that I can apply for the permit at the boarder and pay the $200 fee right there. Whether I am granted or am declined a permit right then and there to visit my cousin and her family that I have not seen for some 7+ years ill be okay. At least I know I tried.

If it were me I'd consult a lawyer who specializes in this. It must come up all the time.

 

[daydreamer41]

What I meant was the people making the rules were not mental giants.

There is perhaps some desire to protect the local populace from those with a propensity to drive drunk. So keeping them from driving perhaps makes some sense if you are the unforgiving type.

But a car is a hindrance in Montreal, and a great number of those flying in never consider renting a car. Why let them fly in and then deny them entry for an automobile violation? Perhaps that does not really happen. If it does, I wonder if they havevto stash in the airport until a seat opens up. And Montreal loses the tourism revenue that guy would have spent.

You like repeat this in each post you made.

I think the Border Patrol doesn't care about the $ the inadmissible US citizen is spending. They don't want a former drunk driver to possibly drive in Canada. Plus, after some time lapses, can't even convicts of DUI apply for permission to enter (Rehabilitation application ... it will cost several hundred $$$ plus lawyer's fees, etc.)

 

[daydreamer41]

I wish there was a way to get the OWI/DUI expunged and if there is, i don't know of it. If I could, I definitely would.

I went through cic but all it does is take me to an eTA questionnaire that in the end, says that i "may not need an eTA to visit Canada" but also has links to criminal inadmissibility. I signed up for an account and all but can not (for the life of me) find the link/application to apply for a Temporary Visitors Permit! I check like almost everyday hoping to find it but have not been able to. I have read online that I can apply for the permit at the boarder and pay the $200 fee right there. Whether I am granted or am declined a permit right then and there to visit my cousin and her family that I have not seen for some 7+ years ill be okay. At least I know I tried.

I think you have to submit the application and get approval before you go for a trip. It's something you have to show the BP. Contact a lawyer in Canada. It will probably cost you some $$$$.