Agency Recruiting Strategies

[EagerBeaver]

We all know that Montreal escort agencies recuit aggressively in the strip clubs. Indeed, if I was starting an agency in Montreal, I would be at Le Club Downtown and Wanda's every Friday night handing out my business card and dispensing some charisma and pitch. But some information that was passed along privately got me wondering about how much recruiting the LDL agencies do on the streets with Street Walkers (SWs). It also got me thinking that perhaps it would not be a bad idea to recruit the creme de la creme of the SWs for an LDL agency, and that perhaps if I was an LDL agency owner I might consider hiring Oliver Kloseoff or some notable veteran as a "talent scout" and pay him a finder's fee on any girl he finds whom I then decide to hire.

Not much has been discussed about agency recruiting strategies and I am interested to hear what the hobbyists think. Obviously the agency owners are not going to post because they do not want to tip off their "trade secrets" but I am interested to hear what the hobbyists think are appropriate recruiting strategies and techniques.

 

[CoolAmadeus]

And what about HDH?

Very interresting subject. LDL recruiting is one thing, but what about HDH? Posts on local universities message boards? I know it's not possible because all advertising at local Univ. must normally be pre-approved, but still.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Cool A,

This thread was not designed to exclusively discuss LDL agencies' recruitment of SWs, but rather to discuss recruiting of any kind by any agency, HDH or LDL, and all contributions in that regard are welcome, including all outcall agency hobbyists' opinions as to how they believe recruiting should be conducted, who should be targeted, and how and why. That's what I am interested in hearing. Also, do you believe agencies should hire scouts like Oliver Kloseoff, or guys who work in strip clubs, on a "finder's fee" basis? That is, they are told that if they locate talent they get a % of the money the agency makes on the girl like 10%, or perhaps a flat fee?

 

[CoolAmadeus]

Considering the amount of money agencies will eventually be able to make with their ladies, I don't see why not having a finders fee. I believe no agency on earth would pay a % based finder's fee, but a flat fee could be appropriate, and could be payable after a certain period of time, like after making sure the girl stays.

Hiring scouts like Oliver could be good for some, as long as it's made clear what kind of girls the agency wants to hire on the team. For example, SWs are definitely not suitable for HDH agencies (but there's always THE exception ). I believe in different places to recruit for different types of agencies.

CA

 

[BookerL]

Hello EB and all


Interesting topic ,sadly no one pursued it !

I will gladly discuss the old ways of recruiting escorts in a later post !Lol





Cheers





Booker

 

[Halloween Mike]

Friends seem to be the biggest recruiting way. Often by curiosity i ask girls how they got to know the owner and get into the agency. A lot of the time there answer is "my friend knew him and presented us"

I think the girls show there money, the friends ask how they got it and then the subject come into account. If you look at a common denominator, often when an agency start to grow big, the bigger it will get. Cause the new ones bring new ops and the pyramid keep going.

Now i don't pretend to know everything or its fact, but its the most plausible ways to me. While Strip Club MAY be another way, i don't think there is that much SPs that come from there. Often a stripper and an escort have 2 different views on the sex business. Often an SP will be too shy or won't want to "expose" herself to hundreds of men naked on a stage while the stripper already made multiple hundreds per nigh, why would she join an agency to make roughly the same money but to have to engage in sex acts vs just boobs/ass gropping at the SC...

 

[CLOUD 500]

We all know that Montreal escort agencies recuit aggressively in the strip clubs. Indeed, if I was starting an agency in Montreal, I would be at Le Club Downtown and Wanda's every Friday night handing out my business card and dispensing some charisma and pitch.

The problem with this is that most strippers are not ready or willing to get intimate with strangers it is the reason they choose to strip instead of massage or escort. A lot of escorts have never stripped. Not the same game at all.

 

[EagerBeaver]

The problem with this is that most strippers are not ready or willing to get intimate with strangers it is the reason they choose to strip instead of massage or escort. A lot of escorts have never stripped. Not the same game at all.

Cloud500,

If you notice the date on the OP of this thread it was started on February 6 2005, by me. There was in fact an agency, no longer in existence, which recruited girls from Le Club Downtown, in fact we saw the owner in there with one of his girls at the time frame. In those days I went to downtown SCs and to Le Club Downtown a lot. I stopped going in the intervening years.

It's now over 11 years since I started the thread and in the intervening time period, Facebook exploded, social medial exploded, Internet Cafes closed, and most recruiting is now done online and not in person. Since 2005 all dating action has also gone online into myriad different dating websites.

Since 2005 this thread has lost its juice a little bit. It's time freshness stamp expired but you did not seem to notice this.

 

[TheDon]

Friends seem to be the biggest recruiting way. Often by curiosity i ask girls how they got to know the owner and get into the agency. A lot of the time there answer is "my friend knew him and presented us"

I think the girls show there money, the friends ask how they got it and then the subject come into account. If you look at a common denominator, often when an agency start to grow big, the bigger it will get. Cause the new ones bring new ops and the pyramid keep going.

So true. One girl told me that she noticed her friend always had nice stuff but rarely worked. She had her suspicions that the friend may be escorting due to her out going personality. One day the friend confirmed that she was sucking cock for money and the first question the girl ask was how do I suck cock for money?! True story.

 

[BookerL]

Let's hear it. Question: Does the word UQAM come up anywhere in your 'strategies'?

Hello solidsnake and all


Since it is no longer applicable ,I can disclose without remorse of providing ways to recruit!Lol

The first thing news papers where very popular and in Montreal the JDM was the Bible on escorting ,meaning that the Bulk of recruiting went trough it .

The main idea in any business is to have large quantity of primary product .
In escorting ,its the ladies who are the stars and offering the so much appreciated service .

In JDM price per line was $23 minimum lining was 2 .
The ranking for adult jobs at 2 lines you where last ,to grab more visitors we increased to 5 lines, our competitors followed ,we then increased to 8 ,competitors still followed then to 10 lines 2 competitors followed ,we decided to increase to 12 x 23 = $276 x 7 days = 1,932
That was$2,000 a week x 52 =$104,000 a year




Plus other strategies equaling the same amount ,that is what I needed to keep a staff of 35 lovelies continuously available 24/7 .



In today market ,different strategies are available





Cheers





Booker

 

[BookerL]

The problem with this is that most strippers are not ready or willing to get intimate with strangers it is the reason they choose to strip instead of massage or escort. A lot of escorts have never stripped. Not the same game at all.

Exactly CLOUD and it was also true 25 years ago until now ,strippers make their $ teasing ,a different ball game altogether.
Most strippers offers the" wife experience" ,the no not today lines !Lol

But there is a few exceptions ,that made the correct changes in escorting




Cheers





Booker

 

[CLOUD 500]

If you notice the date on the OP of this thread it was started on February 6 2005, by me. There was in fact an agency, no longer in existence, which recruited girls from Le Club Downtown, in fact we saw the owner in there with one of his girls at the time frame. In those days I went to downtown SCs and to Le Club Downtown a lot.

It's now over 11 years since I started the thread and in the intervening time period, Facebook exploded, social medial exploded, Internet Cafes closed, and most recruiting is now done online and not in person. Since 2005 all dating action has also gone online into myriad different dating websites.

Yes so? This does not have much relevance to my post. As BookerL stated and confirms what I wrote->

Exactly CLOUD and it was also true 25 years ago until now ,strippers make their $ teasing ,a different ball game altogether.
Most strippers offers the" wife experience" ,the no not today lines !Lol

But there is a few exceptions ,that made the correct changes in escorting

25 years or 11 years or even 5 years... It does not change the fact and in fact it was more so true back in the days that these girls go into stripping because they do not want to get intimate with strangers and the ones that do they do not want to give GFE. The two games are very different... Stripping is a very exhibitionist social type job while escorting is a very intimate physical job. The escorts I meet do not see themselves stripping ever most are too shy to get nude in public... Many are just not the party type social type or to be chasing guys and convincing them like a car salesman to get a $10 dance. On the flip side strippers get disgusted getting physical with strangers and even more so at the prospect of giving GFE. The fact things are more online now only changed the way business is done but nothing more.

If you say that this agency was recruiting at Club Downtown then I take this with a grain of salt. I have a hard time believing that. Agencies would have a really hard time convincing low mileage sanitary strippers working in a club that has a no grind rule especially in 2005 when the money was good to work for an agency that expects you to give GFE for maybe a grand total of $100/hr give or take $20 or $40 instead of getting groped and doing $500 or so a night? See anything wrong with this picture? Looks like you do not understand the stripping club scene at all. Just to give you a perspective on the Montreal stripclub scene when things went contact most of the girls who were working during the non-contact era quit. They rather work a minimum wage job then to get touched and groped by strangers. As BookerL wrote that is basically the stripper game and that is to tease.

 

[tiannas]

Agencies would have a really hard time convincing low mileage sanitary strippers working in a club that has a no grind rule especially in 2005 when the money was good to work for an agency that expects you to give GFE for maybe a grand total of $100/hr give or take $20 or $40 instead of getting groped and doing $500 or so a night? See anything wrong with this picture? Looks like you do not understand the stripping club scene at all. Just to give you a perspective on the Montreal stripclub scene when things went contact most of the girls who were working during the non-contact era quit. They rather work a minimum wage job then to get touched and groped by strangers.

As a former non-contact stripper I would never have considered an offer from an agency. Like most of the dancers I worked with, I looked down on escorts, thinking that we as dancers were better than them. I never accepted money for sex, no matter how good the offer. (Although I did occasionally date some of my clients and give them free sex - lol!) It was like there was a class system in place and dancers were higher than escorts, to work as an escort would be lowering yourself, even if the money was slightly better.
When I moved from Vancouver to Montreal I quit dancing, because as Cloud said, I didn't want to get groped and touched by a bunch of strangers. For a non-contact stage dancer that was below me, beyond my personal comfort limits.

Of course people change and with some maturity and perspective I realised that while I wasn't comfortable being groped by 20 guys in a night, I could see myself being fully intimate with one or two gentlemen in a day. (It would also help meet my sexual needs!) So I started escorting and I wonder why I waited so long!

I have met other escorts who were former dancers, but only a few and they were all somewhat mature. The young dancers I know tend to have the same attitudes toward escorting that I had back then. Even if they aren't bitches about it, it's simply not for them. Of course there are some exceptions to the rule, and some girls who will do both, but I don't think that trying to recruit girls in a strip club would pay off.

 

[Stockton]

I agree that they are usually both very different types of personalities. Although there are some strippers that will offer extras from what I've seen it's very rare that they are the attractive/popular ones, a lot of them offer extras to make up for not making enough dancing. And most SPs do not like to be seen outside at all, that's why they don't offer social time.

The ones that hit all 3, are okay being seen by lots of people, having sex with strangers and are fairly attractive probably end up in porn.

 

[Russ_Meyer]

I think most of what is said here is right on the money, especially in terms of the difference between strippers and escorts. I have fond memories of the strip club experience during the mid-90's right before we acquired the right to grope. I was 18 at Mado's one evening with a group of friends, and we had a great time with a few haitian cuties, and none of it involved twerking. Imagine that.

But that's all changed now, obviously. I know lots of girls from my old neighborhood who have worked as strippers at some point. Most of them have (or had) the mindset described by Tianna (very eloquent little blurb by the way). What we tend to forget is that 75% of strip clubs have no real feature dancing anymore. I know there are some prime spots that still offer the "Chez Parée" experience, but they are geared towards tourists who don't know better or the business luncheon crowd. In most run of the mill clubs like Body Girl for instance in Berthier, you just see a few bitchy or depressed-looking girls sitting around waiting for some guy to pay them a few dances in the VIP room at 15 bucks a pop or more. Sometimes they're hot enough to make a decent chunk of change doing that (even after the common 40$ "service de bar" fee); I remember a beautiful but very sullen lady one night at Body Girl with the nicest natural boobs I've ever groped in my life. Most people nowadays know they can get better service (and mileage) in a MP or with an SP. My point being that the whole exhibitionist argument is moot nowadays: the strippers almost never show their body to more than one guy at a time, and that guy never gets past first or second base !

I don't patronize that many agencies - and I know nothing about the outcall places thathire the hottest spinner SP's, but the 2-3 incalls I do visit rely on word of mouth from current employees. It takes a special kind of woman to do the job, and it's not surprising that many are either nurses, orderlies, day-care educators, waitresses or stay-at-home moms: all very stressful jobs that require maturity, patience and an attraction to other humans, whatever their size, look or profile.

 

[BookerL]

Since 2005 this thread has lost its juice a little bit. It's time freshness stamp expired but you did not seem to notice this.

Well the question is more appropriate now then it was in

2005

even if it was a excellent topic back then .
As all agency has much less staff now, they did in those years,early 2000 .


Cheers




Booker

 

[BookerL]

I am surprised that so many people think they have to be recruited.

Most probably get their information about the industry on the Internet, from merb or similar sites.

Hello Patron

If the young lady learns the biz from the internet ,it is not called recruiting ?
Is it also true for the publicity posting ad on the internet ,for clients, is not recruiting clients ?

How should it be interpreted or called ?



Cheers




Booker

 

[CaptRenault]

Here's an enlightening essay about escort recruiting by "Dollar Bill," the former New York king of Asian massage parlor advertising. He got busted for not paying taxes, served some time in prison and had most of his money confiscated by the feds. But he's a funny guy, and a great story teller-he wrote a great blog for a long time about the NYC commercial sex scene.

Escort Recruiting Mega Style
Dollarbill
medium.com
Apr 11 ·

Forget About Pimps! Networks Like Lifetime and Hollywood Movies Recruit Escorts Into the Profession. And They Do It a Division At a Time!

We read, hear and watch a lot of news about traffickers who lure girls into the escort profession. Maybe it’s true…and maybe it’s fiction. But I gained a little insight this afternoon that might really turn the mainstream on its ear.

I was on the phone with an old buddy yesterday — an independently-operating escort who calls herself Candy — when somehow the conversation turned to that old rite of passage thing (the usual sexual abuse mythology which is generally true)…and then to how she was lured into the profession in the first place. And you might find the seminal recruitment tool sublimely enlightening.

No, it wasn’t a big, bad pimp driving a $100,000 Benz — or a foreign broker who “turned her out.” It was a movie on THE LIFETIME CHANNEL that did the job! Yup! The girl was just 14 years old when one night she watched “THE MAYFLOWER MADAM” (the story of Sydney Biddle Barrows) on the “chick channel” — and there is where she found her calling!

Now Candy is no dumbbell — at least academically speaking. En route to her destiny, the Sweet One enrolled in UCLA on scholarship. But once out in the world on her own, the lure of that fantasy so groomed by that movie she’d seen just a few years back, beckoned. And so she dropped out within weeks to pursue her particular dream — one of making the big bucks in the escort game. And sure enough at just 18 years of age, Candy was living in her own cozy apartment, shopping till she dropped, and earning 900 bucks a day to pay the way!

This I find fascinating. While law enforcement pursues any number of facilitators and traffickers whom they think are the culprits, a freakin’ cable channel just might be doing more to glamorize the escort world and recruit young girls into the profession than the people they’re spending all that money to track...