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Lunaseraphim

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There’s a reason why clients* are complaining.
It means they’re not getting the service they requested.
False advertisement.
Maybe but my conscience is clear. I provide what's in my ad. Its not my business what others are doing honestly.. there's a lot of hearsay too. I don't have an issue with booking clients personally and I'm sure you don't either so there's no problem. I also highly doubt OP is disappointing her clients.
 

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There’s a reason why clients* are complaining.
It means they’re not getting the service they requested.
False advertisement.
And merb is where they come to express that in reviews. Still not sure what that has to do with any of the providers here. We are here, and like you, have heard their grevences. All we can do, is not replicate the same. But how someone chooses to advertise themselves, with or without social time. Doesn't change they are a SP too. In person service is, in person service, whether it includes social time or not. I get the online complaint for them to have their own space, it's not a face to face touching eachother expierience.

But yes many of my clients I get while advertising in the same space as you, complain about aggressive slutty advertising, and I mean that in all good ways as it is what your clients are craving. But the advertising belongs next to eachother so the different people can see all their options, and pick which suits them best. That includes picking people who advertise dates too, as some of those clients are also looking for someone to take out to this or that thing happening, and might not wish to go alone, but also want bedroom activity to be included.

You are boxing all clients into the looking for only sexual encounters when they aren't all looking for just that. Why should those clients have to figure out what special title what they are looking for is classed under. They want escort, the title covers a wide array.
 

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So you came here, a thread designed to point out the positives of the state of affairs in escorting, and the fact that we are able to set our boundaries, to go on a rant about people who aren't even on merb. You completely derailed the positive message and attention this thread was intended to have, buy thowing accusations of entitlement And stuff people unafiliated with merb are doing.



I don't personally go on dates, when asked, I have opted for private dates in the 1 location without the need to travel. Being in public is something I tend to avoid. But I didn't understand OP to mean to try to change the state of things. It was an expression of something they liked being able to appreciate about the change in times.

You are taking someone's positive views on how they see it as a joy, to what? Shame them for expressing they like another aspect than the intimacy, in this business.

We know why they call us. We count on them calling us for that reason, but we appreciate other expieriences we have with our lovelies than just the bedding aspect.

I haven't seen you actually answer what

What do you like about this new era?

We know what you don't like. But that wasn't the question.
Rebaynia, I'm going to qualify this by saying that I think you're an intelligent and level headed woman, and I rarely disagree with you on most anything, but I think you missed it here. I suppose it's a matter of perspective. The OP listed a bunch of things that taken from the client point of view can only be considered as negative, not positive. The things that were listed as positive were listed as positive from the OP's point of view as an SP, for a select type of clientele, after a list of negative things, and then followed by another negative statement saying this is what it's becoming whether you like it or not. While from a subjective view I can see why this would be considered a positive in the state of affair in escorting for an SP, from a generally objective view this just simply isn't the case, and you see guys here regularly complaining about stuff mentioned in the OP (lack of availability, difficulties booking, rates, quality etc., etc.). This is a celebration from the OP and that's fine, but the implied inability to escape the progress of the industry from the point of view of the client is untenable, and projecting it onto the client base seems wrong to me.

So, again this a case of perspective, but what do the men in general see that's positive about this new era as described in the OP? Virtually nothing for the greater portion of the men. This doesn't invalidate what the SPs who do like the changes feel, but given the greater target audience on this particular forum the OP isn't a positive OP. Again, it's all in the POV. If we step outside the bubble and look in then Valentina's central comments about the men in general are 100% correct, and are probably inarguable if we're all being honest. Having said that, as a separate point getting mixed up in this how SPs choose to approach their client base is their own business and nobody else's, and there is no wrong answer. I'm not going to take any sides on any of the other stuff that guys are arguing about. Mom only raised a mildly stupid child, not a complete idiot. :)
 

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Rebaynia, I'm going to qualify this by saying that I think you're an intelligent and level headed woman, and I rarely disagree with you on most anything, but I think you missed it here. I suppose it's a matter of perspective. The OP listed a bunch of things that taken from the client point of view can only be considered as negative, not positive. The things that were listed as positive were listed as positive from the OP's point of view as an SP, for a select type of clientele, after a list of negative things, and then followed by another negative statement saying this is what it's becoming whether you like it or not. While from a subjective view I can see why this would be considered a positive in the state of affair in escorting for an SP, from a generally objective view this just simply isn't the case, and you see guys here regularly complaining about stuff mentioned in the OP (lack of availability, difficulties booking, rates, quality etc., etc.). This is a celebration from the OP and that's fine, but the implied inability to escape the progress of the industry from the point of view of the client is untenable, and projecting it onto the client base seems wrong to me.

So, again this a case of perspective, but what do the men in general see that's positive about this new era as described in the OP? Virtually nothing for the greater portion of the men. This doesn't invalidate what the SPs who do like the changes feel, but given the greater target audience on this particular forum the OP isn't a positive OP. Again, it's all in the POV. If we step outside the bubble and look in then Valentina's central comments about the men in general are 100% correct, and are probably inarguable if we're all being honest. Having said that, as a separate point getting mixed up in this how SPs choose to approach their client base is their own business and nobody else's, and there is no wrong answer. I'm not going to take any sides on any of the other stuff that guys are arguing about. Mom only raised a mildly stupid child, not a complete idiot. :)

I appreciate how your expressing the other side. I do fully admit that from what I know of how things were done in the past, is a decade behind the expressed era in question. I can only compare today's expierience with 2001, not 2010. My guess is in 2010 the very same benefits I see today we're available. We didn't have this back then, and it was a very shady business with very many shady characters in charge back then.

I still stand by the advertisers may advertise however they see fit. It is up to the person looking, yes threw the endless options, to find what suits them.

I see how what was said could be taken. Though I understood it to be more teasing than gloating. Intent can be lost in the written word. I just kind of always filter LC threw an upbeat teasing let's get positively charged intent when I read her posts.
I did my own breakdown of the OP, I did see lines I didn't apply to my own business or beliefs, but gave my own version, I wasn't around in that timeframe spoken of in 2010. But know I am just as grateful for the times having been changed since 2001. The burnout was quick back then.
what I was understanding was the progress from the OP. And understood jabs to be shots at comedy.
 

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Covid alone really reshaped the foundations of this hobby.

1. The popularity of OnlyFans. No need to suck cock and make many times more.
2. Now with OnlyFans removes much of the stigma of sex work. With the potential to make exorbitant amounts of money in such a short period of time.
3. SPs for one now have more control of their business.
4. With less of a stigma women in this business I have noticed are willing to show their faces.
 
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LC18

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I sense a lot of resentment coming from certain members, dare I say hatred even. I don’t know what’s so infuriating with dinner dates or vacations.

That’s his money, my time. Both consenting adults have agreed to that exchange…
 

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Valentina,


I am not sure to understand your malaise with providers that desire to only see clients for dinner dates. Personally I haven’t seen anyone like that in years. The only one I knew was in Toronto and stopped being intimate with clients because she was a reborn Christian. I’m lying, I’ve also seen another provider in Dubai that wasn’t offering any penetration because she wanted to remain a virgin.

I guess they’re not considered sex workers to you because they don’t do the nasty. The truth is that we’ve never and probably never will be in a room with their clients and them. We don’t know what they do or don’t do.

I actually like that the umbrella is so wide now, it makes it fun.

Every clients seeks a different experience, every provider offers a different experience.

Some providers don’t offer BBBJ and I wouldn’t shame them or say they don’t work hard enough.

It’s easy to criticize others when we don’t know what truly happens between them and their client.

You also need to be very careful with what you see online, especially on Twitter. You only have so many characters available to convey a message.

Valentina,

I truly hope that one day you can stop being so angry at what others decide to do with their time and body.
 

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I appreciate the replies, I’m just disappointed that it couldn’t be more positive
I believe your version of positive is when people are in agreement with you.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with dinner dates or vacations you are captain of your own ship.
Dinner dates and vacations however I dare say don’t pay the rent, getting fucked and doing blow jobs does.
 

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I believe your version of positive is when people are in agreement with you.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with dinner dates or vacations you are captain of your own ship.
Dinner dates and vacations however I dare say don’t pay the rent, getting fucked and doing blow jobs does.

I don’t need people to agree with me to consider it positive but seeing providers being rude to each other isn’t what I would call positivity.

Call me crazy


P.S: Do you really think a man that’s taking me to St. Barths is just gonna look at me tanning? You don’t think we’re gonna have sex on the beach? Par pitié…ne fais pas semblant que tu ne sais pas comment ça se passe
 

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P.S: Do you really think a man that’s taking me to St. Barths is just gonna look at me tanning? You don’t think we’re gonna have sex on the beach? Par pitié…ne fais pas semblant que tu ne sais pas comment ça se passe
Now who is the one having the fantasy lol.
Don’t forget to pack sun screen.
 

Fradi

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P.S: Do you really think a man that’s taking me to St. Barths is just gonna look at me tanning? You don’t think we’re gonna have sex on the beach? Par pitié…ne fais pas semblant que tu ne sais pas comment ça se passe
Actually you would be surprised, I offered to take the lady I have been seeing on a sun destination vacation or any city in Europe as a friend no intimacy required.
Why? because she has been not just an escort but a friend to me for over 7 years. I have taken other friends on vacations who couldn’t afford it so why not her.
 
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I was lucky in that when I started out in the industry (in porn, mere moments after I turned 18), I felt safe and had fun doing what I was doing. Then I gained 15 pounds and never got called back. Now, many years and pounds later, I try to get as many pictures of my fat ass as possible because I know that it sells.

The only constant is change
 

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mod: on that note, time to close this thread. enough bickering for one evening.
 
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