So I just took one of Chris's girls to Toronto overnight outside the agency as an "indy". Paid for flight, hotel suite, meals, etc. and bought her some clothes too. I'm just wondering what other hobbyist think is a fair rate (approximately 24 hours), taking into consideration the above expenses were covered? I suppose I want to see if I gave her too much or not enough :S
Appropriate Rate for Vacationing w/ an SP?
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Comment pouvons nous savoir si c'était approprié si tu ne l'écris pas? Pourriez-vous écrire la valeur des frais de voyage, hotel, linges, repas et paiement comptant?.
Combien de services?
Combien de services?
From my point of view, traveling with a SP is a waste of money. When I go to a restaurant I don't bring my lunch with me. One of the pleasure of traveling is to discover the local «fauna». In other words, you didn't gave her too much or not enough, you didn't spend it well.
Imagine what you could have done with that money: a (or even two) top of the crop SPin TO.
Just my two cents.
Imagine what you could have done with that money: a (or even two) top of the crop SPin TO.
Just my two cents.
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What difference does it makes? Do you imply that because she's French she would deserve a different kind of treatment (monetary and personal). If it's what you imply in your post I fell terribly sorry for you
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I know the board is bilingual, but aren't French people supposed to post in the "Quebec" section? That's where all the French posts are. Also, I think it's rather to cheeky to answer somebody in French when they ask a question in English, particularly when you (Mike Mercury) have posted in perfect English in another thread (Athlete Gender Testing). Anyways...
Protagoros, I did not mean it like that, French girls deserve the same. It is just that most have an attitude problem, nose in the air sort of speak, but this one was didn't. So still nobody has a suggestion about an appropriate/standard rate?
Protagoros, I did not mean it like that, French girls deserve the same. It is just that most have an attitude problem, nose in the air sort of speak, but this one was didn't. So still nobody has a suggestion about an appropriate/standard rate?
Traveling with an SP presents many potential situations for dissatisfaction and regret. Meeting the right SP at a destination and spending days with her can be quite a positive experience "with the right SP". The price range that I have paid for this service over the last 15 years has ranged from $300 to $1500 per day.
I suppose you can search around the internet and look for comparable rates.
I think that the rate should be much lower than a normal by the hour, because she is seeing one person over a longer period of time. She does not have to travel to 6 different locations. There is less wear and tear on her. Unless you have a case of Viagra, you are not going to be doing the deed as frequent as if she would see 6 different guys.
Plus,it is a chance for her to relax also and you paying for her expenses.
If she made $120 / hr from her agency seeing 6 guys over a 10 hour period, that is $720. Granted she will spend all her time with you or much of it. $1000 to $1200 per day is fair. She is ahead and so are you.
I would agree. The extra premium paid is called the cost of paying someone to tolerate you if you are someone not so easily tolerated for whatever reason which could be personality, looks, hygiene or some combination of all of the above. Some clients are more easily tolerated than others. The range goes from tolerable to intolerable. It's possible that the intolerable client could be changed anywhere from 50-200% more than the tolerable client.
I never really liked the negotiation process very much although as I gained experience as a hobbyist I figured out ways to make it more comfortable. Lately I have been visiting an incall massage place in NYC where everything is on the menu if you negotiate. The girls who work at this place are sharp negotiators. They will say things like "I usually get X for that", to which you respond, "I usually pay Y." One time I asked a girl there for a combo special of CIM and DATY and although I had an idea that pretty much everything was on her menu, for the right price, she opened the negotiations by saying, "wow.......that's pretty intense." That is a negotiating tactic.
Vacation negotiations take the same tack. You have to stress the perks such as where you are going, what you will be doing etc. I know an escort who went on a Caribbean vacation with a client and she complained that all he wanted to do was fuck her 24/7. There may be an expectation of time at the beach, bars, restos etc. and this should be negotiated. If all you want to do is bang her 24/7 then it's likely she will not be expecting that and you have to figure out a way to tell her the action will be marathon like. On the other hand if it is mostly social time with perhaps one or two SOGs per day that should be factored into the negotiations.
Ocoq,
The "Quebec" section is for Quebec City. Merb (as for Montreal) is bilingual.
The French girls don't have an attitude problem; they might just be a bit inconfortable when speaking another language. Mais je suppose que tu n'as pas la subtilité pour comprendre ces nuances.
Can-U
I appreciate the information about negotiation and how different Johns may receive different rates. I'd like to think I'm a fairly tolerable chap, only issue we have on occasion is that I get very frustrated by the language barrier which make me make ME intolerable.
The problem with this girl is that since I started to see her outside the agency, she never negotiates. I lower the hourly rate I offer her as the length of the appointment increases (this is normal, yeah?) and she's always accepted without hesitation. I just want to make sure I"m not getting a raw deal, but also that I'm not being overly cheap :S
Anyone besides Martin have any other anecdotes and rates for appointments 24 hours or more?
The problem with this girl is that since I started to see her outside the agency, she never negotiates. I lower the hourly rate I offer her as the length of the appointment increases (this is normal, yeah?) and she's always accepted without hesitation. I just want to make sure I"m not getting a raw deal, but also that I'm not being overly cheap :S
Anyone besides Martin have any other anecdotes and rates for appointments 24 hours or more?
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You pick up a French girl in a French city and you got very upset by a poor English Did she get very upset by your poor French . That is if your story is true
Well, I would have to agree with this.
You are more concerned with her poor English than you are with getting the better of the bargain? I am not sure I understand unless what you mean to say is that you feel you might be taking advantage of her by conducting the negotiations in English which puts her at a disadvantage and make it harder for her to negotiate. Maybe she is accepting of your lowballing because she is not adept enough in English to combat it and that is what you feel guilty about.
Ocoq you did not change your wording for me. You are what you are editing your post will not change that.
French girls are great
I am an anglo and came here from abroad. I love the french girls here. The best lovers I've ever had. They're sweet, open, sexy and they know what's going on. I love the french character of this town and continue to learn french so I can fully enjoy everything and everybody it has to offer. I feel this has enriched my life tremendously. My recommendation for the bloke who feels uncomfortable with the language barrier is take a class. U of MOntreal offers them and enjoy this wonderful city and its beautiful and sexy women.
I am an anglo and came here from abroad. I love the french girls here. The best lovers I've ever had. They're sweet, open, sexy and they know what's going on. I love the french character of this town and continue to learn french so I can fully enjoy everything and everybody it has to offer. I feel this has enriched my life tremendously. My recommendation for the bloke who feels uncomfortable with the language barrier is take a class. U of MOntreal offers them and enjoy this wonderful city and its beautiful and sexy women.
As a longtime lurker, it's been clear to me since he showed up that Mr. Ocoq was none other than Anglophuck, who spent much of last winter spewing anti-French venom until he was permanently banned back in January.
I'm surprised the Mods haven't picked up on it, particularly since -- unlike his alter ego -- Ocoq rarely posts anything informative (although he can be unintentionally funny). Granted, he's toned down the anti-French slurs, but the hostility is still clearly there.
I'm surprised the Mods haven't picked up on it, particularly since -- unlike his alter ego -- Ocoq rarely posts anything informative (although he can be unintentionally funny). Granted, he's toned down the anti-French slurs, but the hostility is still clearly there.
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