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Are we ok, with Trudeau Airport Executives receiving million dollar bonuses

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Let me try to put this another way . I as a Canadian taxpayer do not have a choice in whether the Trudeau Airport Executive committee get million dollar bonuses coming out my TAX DOLLARS, money wasted.

You may like out airport, as none of your tax money is being spent on it.
I mean, if we're going to keep screaming about who is paying, let's do that.

I pay $55 in taxes and fees to the Canadian government every time I fly in Canada. I fly about 40-50 times per year in Canada. That's about $2500 I pay every year as a foreigner. (For comparison, my fees in the US are about $5)

How much did you pay in taxes last year and what dollar amount goes to YUL? I'm happy to pay for YUL since it is so well designed and well run in my experience :)
 
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I mean, if we're going to keep screaming about who is paying, let's do that.

I pay $55 in taxes and fees to the Canadian government every time I fly in Canada. I fly about 40-50 times per year in Canada. That's about $2500 I pay every year as a foreigner. (For comparison, my fees in the US are about $5)

How much did you pay in taxes last year and what dollar amount goes to YUL? I'm happy to pay for YUL since it is so well designed and well run in my experience :)
Sir again you aren’t getting the point.

As an American you have the choice to visit our country/airport or to take your money elsewhere….. I don’t .

If the airport wasn’t built on taxpayer money I wouldn’t care that the Trudeau airport executives make million dollar bonuses.

It hurts when you see high fees plus total chaos at the airport knowing they make more than the prime minister.

Then they do stupid shit like make you wait extra long in line if you arrive early to the airport while late people pass you by does that make sense?
 

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Aside from the disaster with Sunwing, and Air Canada, does anyone know or remember when if you arrived to the airport early during rush hour, they stuck you in a line that wouldn't move, while late people were passed ahead of you.
 

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I mean, if we're going to keep screaming about who is paying, let's do that.

I pay $55 in taxes and fees to the Canadian government every time I fly in Canada. I fly about 40-50 times per year in Canada. That's about $2500 I pay every year as a foreigner. (For comparison, my fees in the US are about $5)

How much did you pay in taxes last year and what dollar amount goes to YUL? I'm happy to pay for YUL since it is so well designed and well run in my experience :)
Well said. Same for me, but I am Canadian. I use YUL a lot and always got efficient service!
In fact, taxpayers paid for building it initially and government (the Canadians) is paid back by ADM on a lease. Plus ADM pays for the maintenance and improvement of the Airport..
I don't see why some are obsessed with that. Often those screaming the most about taxes are the ones paying the less. But that's life, I guess.

It is an emphyteutic lease. It is obvious some know nothing how it goes and keep complaining.

The consideration has two components: (1) monetary consideration as rent (which does not have to be annual); and (2) consideration from the undertaking of constructions or improvements or both which considerably increase the value of the property. At the end of the lease period, all improvements made to the land by the lessee revert back to the emphyteutic lessor (with or without compensation to the lessee for such constructions).
 
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Since it doesn’t have share capital, ADM does not pay dividends: all excesses of revenues over expenses are reinvested in the Corporation. However, ADM pays rent to Transport Canada calculated as a percentage of its gross revenues. In addition, it pays municipal taxes based on the property value of its airports. These transfers total about 20% of its gross revenues.

It has nothing to do with a private investment like a Costco nor a Walmart.

Paying rent .... ONLY when they turn a profit, is not rent. The debitor/creditor obligations basically do not apply if they turn zero profit on their Emphyteusis. Boy I wish real life worked like that. I only have to pay a mortgage if I make money.
Again they didn't pay for the infrastructure . WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING RENT WHEN THERE IS A LOSS........ the TAXPAYER. That is not rent, that is taking money when there is a profit and handing losses to the taxpayer.
 
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WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING RENT WHEN THERE IS A LOSS........ the TAXPAYER. That is not rent, that is taking money when there is a profit and handing losses to the taxpayer.
Again you are rather misinformed or just interested to express your frustration. What is the point to continue? federal government don't actually put money in ADMTL.
If you have evidence of what you are pushing, please post your sources.
 

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Well this is interesting, the affluent South Shore Saint Hubert airport will not have night flights causing cardiac arrests to neighbours there , but Dorval people will get the short end (with connecting intercontinental flights beyond 12AM and too many flights leaving near 12 AM), as they will probably have to fight all the way to the Supreme Court to stop night flights.

PS: If you live near the glide path of a runway you know exactly what I mean when I say heart attack.
 
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Today is a very sad day , the airport is getting rid of 600 unionized jobs and strangely those jobs are now going to be managed by two non-unionized firms.

it disgusts me that ticketing agents and baggage handlers who do all the hard work , take all the stress and abuse of angry travellers and pick heavy bags and are made to work like dogs are being fired just in all honesty to pay them less through a sub contractor, when those families need the money.

of course they (ADM) will give themselves million dollar bonuses in the future in my personal opinion …..
 
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