Best dates (Survey question)

[sapman99]

This poll question can be voted on its’ own, but is associated with Sapman’s survey #1 Best LDL GFE agencies of 2008. Explanations on the survey itself are available there, as well as links to all the surveys sub-polls.

I have found that different agencies (and often the ones where the ladies learned their trade) present a different atmosphere of date. Of course, the lady herself has a lot to do with this, but there is still usually a trend, in terms of time management, attitude, substance issues, enthusiasm level, services offered as opposed to services obtained, etc.

 

[korbel]

This poll question can be voted on its’ own, but is associated with Sapman’s survey #1 Best LDL GFE agencies of 2008. Explanations on the survey itself are available there, as well as links to all the surveys sub-polls.

I have found that different agencies (and often the ones where the ladies learned their trade) present a different atmosphere of date. Of course, the lady herself has a lot to do with this, but there is still usually a trend, in terms of time management, attitude, substance issues, enthusiasm level, services offered as opposed to services obtained, etc.

Hello Sapman,

This should be a multiple choice poll. I have more than one favorite and don`t want to cheat any agency. Put me down for MSC, Devilish, and XXXTASE.

C`mon,

Korbel

 

[Rex Kramer]

Some of the best dates I have this year are with Devilish and GOF. I am also very glad that Devilish has a regular daytime shift now with some of the best girls available, and dealing with Billy is a breeze.

I just saw that KIM voted for Devilish/GOF. She must have some great dates with Devilish also. I am assuming KIM's dates are with girls since as far as I know Chris and Billy are not available for dates. It is like a restaurant employee would go back to the same restaurant for meals- it must be good!

 

[UHGL]

Hey Sapman, this is a very tricky topic for me...... I have not had a less than full GFE session with any of the Devilish/GOF, Eleganza, Satin Dreamz or XXXTase SP's that I have booked. A year ago, hands down, Eleganza had the best looking women that gave some of the best service. My last trip to Montreal, things seem to shift. Eleganza's service was less than perfect, where as Devilish/GOF with Chris, Billy & Mike seemed to step it up and even give me GREAT personal advice on SP's that they felt I should see later in the week, based on my trip/session history and my personal tastes in women. In my dealings with Agencies, the only advice they ever gave me was for which SP to book on that same day...... and that advice never took into account what my personal tastes were,..... only, which SP wasn't yet booked.

If this poll is based on which Agency has the best looking SP's, that provide the best service in general, my vote goes to Eleganza. Say what you want about John, but he has a scary eye for talent, the strongest recruiting hand, and a no-bs policy, that all his ladies must be full-GFE. Now if this poll is more about, having the biggest day to day lineup, ladies who actually work more than twice a month, the most truthful communication, and on time sessions..... my vote would go to Devilish/GOF.

 

[korbel]

If this poll is based on which Agency has the best looking SP's, that provide the best service in general, my vote goes to Eleganza. Say what you want about John, but he has a scary eye for talent, the strongest recruiting hand, and a no-bs policy, that all his ladies must be full-GFE. Now if this poll is more about, having the biggest day to day lineup, ladies who actually work more than twice a month, the most truthful communication, and on time sessions..... my vote would go to Devilish/GOF.

Hello all,

Well, I decided to vote for the agency that has been the best for me in the last year. I really hate not being able to vote for Devilish and XXXTASE, but the poll is limited.

I really would like someone to explain the Eleganza mystery? Almost no one is working on the schedule at any time, yet some say it's great. Don't these two elements look very shady when combined. Yes, they do!

Cheers,

Korbel

 

[UHGL]

Hello all,

Well, I decided to vote for the agency that has been the best for me in the last year. I really hate not being able to vote for Devilish and XXXTASE, but the poll is limited.

I really would like someone to explain the Eleganza mystery? Almost no one is working on the schedule at any time, yet some say it's great. Don't these two elements look very shady when combined. Yes, they do!

Cheers,

Korbel

Hey K,

No mystery really. If you are very lucky, someone at Eleganza will pick up the phone, and if you are even luckier, some SP will be on the schedule. Eleganza has no "older" SP's or even anything less than cute SP's........ all the ladies are young and hot. The huge downside is Eleganza, doesn't seem to have set working hours(to even answer the phone), the SP's all work when ever they feel like it(go figure, these young ladies aren't career SP's, & have day jobs), and Eleganza has the worst on time record of all the agency's that I have used.

Still, when in Montreal, I always check with Eleganza first......... this is soon to change next trip, as Chris has stepped up his game and GOF now has a insanely hot lineup!!!!!

 

[korbel]

Hey K,

No mystery really. If you are very lucky, someone at Eleganza will pick up the phone, and if you are even luckier, some SP will be on the schedule. Eleganza has no "older" SP's or even anything less than cute SP's........ all the ladies are young and hot. The huge downside is Eleganza, doesn't seem to have set working hours(to even answer the phone), the SP's all work when ever they feel like it(go figure, these young ladies aren't career SP's, & have day jobs), and Eleganza has the worst on time record of all the agency's that I have used.

Still, when in Montreal, I always check with Eleganza first......... this is soon to change next trip, as Chris has stepped up his game and GOF now has a insanely hot lineup!!!!!

Hello UHGL,

So you have to be lucky, but the ladies are great. Still sounds like a great contradiction in quality reliable service. What good is a great lady if she is usually not working and you can't get anyone on the phone in the first place. I am hearing that Eleganza is not much of a real agency any more. It sounds like a hit or miss spot organization for part time ladies who need money once in a while and may decide to indulge in paid sex at their whim a few times a month. Or else some clients with a lot of money to spend get special treatment. So it's either pure luck...or pure favortism based on a large cash wad. Some agency.

Ish,

Korbel

 

[UHGL]

Hello UHGL,

So you have to be lucky, but the ladies are great. Still sounds like a great contradiction in quality reliable service. What good is a great lady if she is usually not working and you can't get anyone on the phone in the first place. I am hearing that Eleganza is not much of a real agency any more. It sounds like a hit or miss spot organization for part time ladies who need money once in a while and may decide to indulge in paid sex at their whim a few times a month. Or else some clients with a lot of money to spend get special treatment. So it's either pure luck...or pure favortism based on a large cash wad. Some agency.

Ish,

Korbel

True enough.

If you get any Eleganza SP, you will be happy...... but you need to have major amounts of luck for that to happen....... this is why, I haven't voted in this poll.

 

[Voyager]

Sapman,

Did you plan this to be another Eleganza-bashing thread, or is it just heading that way?

V

 

[korbel]

Sapman,

Did you plan this to be another Eleganza-bashing thread, or is it just heading that way?

V

Hello V,

After 6 trips trying to find even one of four desirable ladies available I gave up on Eleganza. It's not worth it and I did not even consider trying to call when I was in Montreal last weekend. But, I am curious about exactly why the agency has been so difficult and useless for me and many versus the contrasting praise others give. My views are mine and have nothing to do with Sapman.

Cheers,

Korbel

 

[Voyager]

I gave up on Eleganza.

Really, then why take every opportunity you can to bash them?

My views are mine and have nothing to do with Sapman.

Then why not start your own thread instead of hijacking his?

Regards,

Voyager

btw when you delete/move your bashing posts, I'll delete this & the other.

 

[sapman99]

Montreal Sex City - Satin Dreamz

Well, for me there is no question there: Jessy and Peter's ladies are the best crew in that department. I am all smiles as I write this. Let me tell you a very indicative anecdote:

I once had a 3-hour date with a lady I liked a lot @ Satin Dreamz (now retired). I had prepared some homemade pancake mix for our "halftime break", to go with my maple syrup. My lady friend devoured her pancakes with gusto and a big smile. I had to go to the washroom after eating. When I stepped out, my date was washing the dishes! She looked at me brightly and said "let's go back to bed, I can finish those later"!

This is only one fond memory I have of dates with that team, they keep flooding back as I write. They have the fewest substances problems I know of, they always spend the full alloted time or more, many times they will offer you more "fun" than you are ready for, and they also seem the happiest.

Even though I have not met with a ton of Eleganza and XXXTase ladies, the ones I met also had excellent attitudes and levels of enthusiasm. At Devilish, "things" happen once in a while, but Chris is usually very quick at correcting "glitches" and making sure his clients remain happy.

 

[korbel]

Really, then why take every opportunity you can to bash them? Then why not start your own thread instead of hijacking his?

Regards,

Voyager

btw when you delete/move your bashing posts, I'll delete this & the other.

Hello Voyager,

LOL...please...please...please...feel free to repeat and add if you wish. Why would I possible want you to delete this. Give me MORE! The truth is Eleganza has a long list of ladies on their schedule and 75% are always off. When calling the ones that are working are "booked for the week" ...well ...that's what am I told WHEN they answer the phone. Of the four agencies I have tended to call until recently...XXXTASE, Devilish, Eleganza, and Montreal Sex City...Eleganza is by far the most unsatisfying obviously. And all my comments about them are backed up by various other hobbyists. So who are you fooling. I am just dying to know precisely how successful dates with Eleganza were achieved. Now...thanks for this opportunity to respond. I await your next response with eager anticipation.

As for "hikacking"...now you are being very silly implying a thread about "best dates" can only have positive posts. It takes a white knight to call the truth..."bashing". It didn't used to be this way. I held John on an equal level with Martin of XXXTASE and wrote reviews of Emely, Cindy, and Nadya (still on the board) commending him so, and many other times. But, now that things have changed over the last several trips I am accused of bashing. Get real Voayager!!!

Big hugs,

Korbie

Oh...PS Voyager buddy:

When I am in Montreal making calls to Eleganza I don't tell them I am Korbel. Shouldn't matter anyway right. I got the same response on several trips calling from several hotels. They are very consistent not knowing they are doing it to the same person.

 

[infanticide]

Korbie, Eleganza is the best LDL agency in terms of QUALITY girls that give superb service. If you feel like they aren't worth your while then you're sorely mistaken. John is like NASA when it comes to recruiting, he only produces the most shining stars. When I call them I never identify myself by my board handle and I always use different #s because I use disposable cell phones, and I've never had a problem. Their phone demeanor isn't as great as Chris from Devilish (but pretty much no one is as good as him), but the girls more than make up for it.

 

[korbel]

Korbie, Eleganza is the best LDL agency in terms of QUALITY girls that give superb service. If you feel like they aren't worth your while then you're sorely mistaken. John is like NASA when it comes to recruiting, he only produces the most shining stars. When I call them I never identify myself by my board handle and I always use different #s because I use disposable cell phones, and I've never had a problem. Their phone demeanor isn't as great as Chris from Devilish (but pretty much no one is as good as him), but the girls more than make up for it.

Hello Infanticide,

Show me one place where I said anything about the service of ladies of Eleganza in the last two years. Have you read my posts on this. It's only about no one being available. I call a week before I leave, a couple of days or so before I leave, while I am there. "No she's not working"..."no she's not working... she's booked all week." I am sure the ladies are great. Where are they. I always ask when is the best time to call and I always do so. Being six hours away from Montreal I don't have the luxury of calling every night for a date. Maybe mid-April, mid-July, early August and early October are just bad times huh...lol.

Their phone demeanor isn't as good as Mike and Marc at Devilish, Jessy at MSC, Martin of Asservissante or the guys at XXXTASE either.

Really,

Korbel

 

[infanticide]

Korbie, I was in Montreal 5 or 6 times this year, and all but once I was able to meet with an Eleganza girl. I recall you saying in the past that there were a few girls available to you at one point or another but they weren't on your short list. I suggest expanding your list! My two ATF Eleganza girls (Gianna & Alyssa) I met on same day bookings. Try prebooking Monday at around 1:30pm, its worked for me (that's how I booked Paris). Don't give up bro! I think your problem may be that you mostly come to town on weekends, which aren't great "availability" days for Eleganza, most of their girls only work during the week. I've only ever seen one Eleganza girl on a weekend.

Good luck!

 

[korbel]

Korbie, I was in Montreal 5 or 6 times this year, and all but once I was able to meet with an Eleganza girl. I recall you saying in the past that there were a few girls available to you at one point or another but they weren't on your short list. I suggest expanding your list! My two ATF Eleganza girls (Gianna & Alyssa) I met on same day bookings. Try prebooking Monday at around 1:30pm, its worked for me (that's how I booked Paris). Don't give up bro! I think your problem may be that you mostly come to town on weekends, which aren't great "availability" days for Eleganza, most of their girls only work during the week. I've only ever seen one Eleganza girl on a weekend.

Good luck!

Hello Infanticide,

My short list was Karyna, Dolce, Honey, and Annabelle. On a couple of trips they mentioned one or two others who were definitely not going to be my taste. Four other times there was no one esle. As I said, I did call exactly when then said I should. Maybe not to the second, but pretty close. Like you I look at reviews, the agency photos, listen to friends. There are choices at several agencies so why should either of us expand our lists just to have an experience at any agency. You are right, I do come on weekends, usually Thursday through Sunday. But I am attempting to book on Monday. Anyway, I have met tarrific ladies at Devilish, XXXTASE, and MSC...and I know a few amazing Independents like Lilly and Maria Divina. So I have no need to settle for less. And thanks to back luck at Eleganza I met Michelle and Janet of MSC, Lilly Lombard, Maria Divina, Kim, Kiki, Lisa and others at Devilish. So for that...many thanks Eleganza...lol.

Cheers,

Korbel