Best Photography

[Montreal Sex City]

I can understand why you want to wait a bit to get professional photos done, but I think it's to the ladies advantage to post any pics available rather then no pics at all.

My issue is that even with reviews, if a bad review comes along the lady just changes her name and starts again. The problem with Good providers is that the reviewer will generally want to keep them for themselves so not post a review.

Catch-22...

- CWipes

Yes, absolutely right and when we have some temporary, we post them.

As for the reviews, yes, a reality in this business too, reason why we avoid changing the girls name.
If so, then we indicate who she was before and make the links, but again, we have to end up with a
lady that first will not lie about that, wich we usually find inside a week or so ;*)
We rather try to see what's not going right with the lady or let her go.

I can only agree with you on this one, keeping the reviews for themselves ...
How I would have tones of things to say about that ! Ah ah ah !
But topic is about photos

 

[CWipes]

I think what makes photos so important to a client is that ladies can easily lie about their age, weight, height, cup size, etc., but they can't lie as easy in recent photos.

 

[shakenotstirred]

Asservissante is also terrible about not putting up pictures. Half the girls on their site don't have pictures. I've often thought this was a strategy to keep his girls in the sense that other agencies can't steal them if they don't see what they look like.

 

[Conan]

Chloe's Playground really stands out in terms of quality and artistic creativity, each girl has a slightly different theme. The tile bathtub theme is interesting, too bad they don't put a girl in it. Also, the pics on Heidi's Playhouse are very well done. But overall, I think the agencies/photographers should lose some shoes and boots along the way and show more skin and full shots of legs and feet.

Some agencies post crappy cell phone pictures. It's one thing if you choose not to pay for a professional photo shoot, but an investment in a $100 digital camera would go a long way.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I totally agree with SK. No picture, no girl.

Jessy, I'm going to agree with Doc and SK. SK and I compare notes frequently and we're both aware that we often have very different taste. I'll listen to him and vice versa, but without pictures to guide me, I'm not going to take a flyer.

First, I look at the pictures; then I look for the reviews. I liked Candy's picture, I liked the reviews. I met her. And I'll meet her again soon.

Occasionally, I'm so taken with a girl's pictures that I'll book her without reviews and take that chance. I'll NEVER book a girl on reviews alone.

 

[cpp433]

id have to say choles and eleganza are probably the best phot wise,, i too would never see a girl without pics, as im pretty choosy, but i also need reviews to book,, i decide which girls im interested in from the pics, then i decide which ones to book from the reviews, which i assume is what most of us do, so both are needed

 

[Doc Holliday]

Jessy, I'm going to agree with Doc and SK. SK and I compare notes frequently and we're both aware that we often have very different taste. I'll listen to him and vice versa, but without pictures to guide me, I'm not going to take a flyer.

Likewise. I'll look at the picture, then look for a review. Or vice-versa. But i will always need both in order to make up my mind.

Nice picture + good review = possible appointment with the Doc.
Nice picture + lousy or no review = no appointment with the Doc.
Lousy or no picture + good review = no appointment with the Doc.

For me, a picture and a legit good review are a must before i decide to see someone new.

 

[Merlot]

Yes, absolutely right and when we have some temporary, we post them.

As for the reviews, yes, a reality in this business too, reason why we avoid changing the girls name.
If so, then we indicate who she was before and make the links, but again, we have to end up with a
lady that first will not lie about that, wich we usually find inside a week or so ;*)
We rather try to see what's not going right with the lady or let her go.

I can only agree with you on this one, keeping the reviews for themselves ...
How I would have tones of things to say about that ! Ah ah ah !
But topic is about photos

Hello Jessy,

To prepare for my last trip the first thing I did was to look for the photo of the ladies who looked the hottest to me. I made a list by agency and escort name, then I looked for reviews and eliminated names when indicated. Since 2001, no photo means no meeting. You cannot underestimate the importance of having a good photo...unless the reviews are so consistently good that the outcome of a meeting cannot be in doubt. Photos can be deceptive, but there are elements that can never be hidden, so photos are paramount to create the fantasy, and reviews keep it going!

The best photos I found were on Xxxtase, Devilish, and Girls On fire. Being someone who loves seduction through sexy clothes enhancing sexy women I found Devilish the most consistently seductive...even though reviews, opportunity, and management handling led me to GOF and Angels during the last trip. But photos light the fire. ;D

Of all the agenciies that advertise on MERB, I would vote Mike & Chloe`s as the one with the best and most attractive photo shoots.

I do think Chloe's Playground is well done, though not every photo is equal in quality. Chloe's photo is especially beautiful, but sometimes I can't decide if it's the photo...or the exquisite beauty herself that makes it so powerful. Try both!

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[CWipes]

On the other side of the coin, for new people to the business are you expecting to ask someone who is most likely in need of cash in the first place, to invest 40 - 80 CAD in a photographer or photos?

Also, I don't believe any agency is going to want to invest anything in an untested hire either. It's just basically sink or swim time.

I need pics to do business, but i don't have money for pics. Another Catch-22...

But then again, if the same girl is using the same photos and has been in the business for more then a year, then I find that a lot can change from what is in the photo and what is at the door.

I know slightly off topic, but what do you think is the percentage who post accurate stats next to the picture?

I believe the pictures can tell more truth then the stats.

- CWipes

 

[Special K]

On the other side of the coin, for new people to the business are you expecting to ask someone who is most likely in need of cash in the first place, to invest 40 - 80 CAD in a photographer or photos?

Also, I don't believe any agency is going to want to invest anything in an untested hire either. It's just basically sink or swim time.

You don't need professionally done photos when entering the business. I'd be quite happy with a few nice digital camera pictures of the gal taken by the owner but I'd draw the line at cell phone pics, just awful quality.

 

[YouVantOption]

On the other side of the coin, for new people to the business are you expecting to ask someone who is most likely in need of cash in the first place, to invest 40 - 80 CAD in a photographer or photos?

Some agencies post crappy cell phone pictures. It's one thing if you choose not to pay for a professional photo shoot, but an investment in a $100 digital camera would go a long way.

Wow some low-ball figures here. A decent photographer will charge $80-$100/hour, a reasonable photo shoot takes about 90 minutes longer than the time schedule for set-up and tear-down, and the first 30 minutes of shooting tend to be lame.

Of course, you can do it on the cheap - and it shows. Someone cited devilish's shots as being good. i think they are banal, and of poor quality both as shots, and the horrid presentation on the website - design from the 1990s. (frames? Really??)

As to $100 cameras, again - that is very mch on the cheap end, and no suitable for professional use - and that is what we are talking about here. I have two lenses worth ten times that, each, and I'm an amateur photographer.

 

[CWipes]

Just wondering, at what point should once decided to use an actual photographer? Who should pay, the agency or the individual?

- CWipes

 

[HG Hunter]

There is a photographer in Toronto who, IMHO, does a very good job and they also have a great website so you can have a look at their work.
http://www.gtagirls.com/

I put this out there for you to have a look at and to use when comparing quality. It's a pretty good standard to compare to.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Nice picture + lousy or no review = no appointment with the Doc.

Maybe 4-5 years ago, French companions had a girl named Michelle working for them. Her pictures made me absolutely weak in the knees, among other places. I searched high and low and found no mention of her anywhere on the boards. Weak in the knees, among other places, I went ahead and booked what turned out to be one of the best appointments I`ve ever had. Sorry to say, she disappeared shortly thereafter, never to return.

 

[CWipes]

Actually I was contemplating bring up the Toronto sites, as I like their photo quality that they in general are showing, but then again Toronto prices are general higher then their Montreal counterpart. Is photography a factor? I'm not sure.

 

[CWipes]

From a business perspective, can Photography or a photographer be deducted as a business expense? What are some of the typical business expenses?

 

[HG Hunter]

From a business perspective, can Photography or a photographer be deducted as a business expense? What are some of the typical business expenses?

Assuming you're talking about the MP or SP business, and as long as you claim all your revenues and keep straight books, I don't see why a photographer couldn't be claimed as a legitimate business expense.

 

[bumfie]

Assuming you're talking about the MP or SP business, and as long as you claim all your revenues and keep straight books, I don't see why a photographer couldn't be claimed as a legitimate business expense.

I don't know Canadian tax code, but in the U.S. that photography would definitely be a legit business expense. Of course, that is assuming an agency in the U.S. would have some sort of front operation that was paying taxes.

I have no doubt that the legal brothels in Nevada write off every nickel of their photography expenses.

 

[CWipes]

So slightly off topic, while the general consensus is that while hiring a professional photographer can be an actual tax deductible business expense in Canada (noting also the importance of a quality photography in making a booking), with all the cash transactions taking place what do you think the percentage is of business keeping straight books in order to get the deduction?

I'm thinking it's somewhere around 1% but was wondering if there was someone out there who thought it was perhaps higher?

What do photographers in Montreal normally charge?

I too also think that a professional photographer charging 100 an hour would be normal in the states, because it's not just taking photos but also the processing involved too.

I also think quality shows in the photo when someone uses just a point and shoot vs an SLR.

You get what you pay for, but the photography expenditure is one of those things that agency's could get the money back for so why not go for the quality?

- CWipes

 

[joeblow]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Santillo yet, a photographer who's been around for ages. I still love his work.

See: www.santillophotography.com

Look in his portfolios and you will recognize some of Montreal's (erstwhile) finest!