Do you ever just have BJ only sessions?

[merbuser1221]

The minimal quality you need to have it genuine is the empathy.

That’s not true

Being genuine means not paying someone to hang out or have sex with them

Nobody is disagreeing with you here, it's not a genuine romantic relationship. I don't think anyone said it was.

I just think disconnecting the act of sex from compassion and other human feelings for another person is unhealthy. That doesn't mean ''develop romantic feelings for an escort''. That just means you are supposed to appreciate the escort you book and connect with her for the moment. Nobody wants to see clients who don't respect them but still want to fuck them. It's not because you are paying her that she isn't a real person.

I get you, and I feel you

But you’re making an emotional argument and that’s not really what I’m talking about

Chemistry is about two people getting along nothing to do with anything else and enjoying scenarios like my SP goes, we always have fun as you have to feel it! Also, I feel her sincere vibes !

Absolutely brotha

So long as you’re having a satisfying session, that’s all that counts

 

[Lunaseraphim]

That’s not true

Being genuine means not paying someone to hang out or have sex with them

I get you, and I feel you

But you’re making an emotional argument and that’s not really what I’m talking about

Absolutely brotha

So long as you’re having a satisfying session, that’s all that counts

I don't think I'm merely making an emotional argument. I'm just explaining the way I see things.

I don't think we're entirely disagreeing. I'm not going to say that booking an escort will satisfy all your emotional and psychological needs, because it won't. It won't even fulfill all your sexual needs.

But I think it's perfectly reasonable to book an escort if you're interested in companionship with no strings attached, in between relationships or while you're traveling alone, as long as you find the right person for it.

Anyways, yes, as long as you're having a satisfying session that's all that counts. The definition of a satisfying session depends from client to client.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

(just adding one thing: if everything is fake because it's transactional, then the blowjobs are fake too, you might as well just watch porn)

 

[merbuser1221]

I don't think I'm merely making an emotional argument. I'm just explaining the way I see things.

I don't think we're entirely disagreeing. I'm not going to say that booking an escort will satisfy all your emotional and psychological needs, because it won't. It won't even fulfill all your sexual needs.

But I think it's perfectly reasonable to book an escort if you're interested in companionship with no strings attached, in between relationships or while you're traveling alone, as long as you find the right person for it.

Anyways, yes, as long as you're having a satisfying session that's all that counts. The definition of a satisfying session depends from client to client.

That's not a good idea because it leads guys towards thinking they have a real relationship with a prostitute

People do it but it's not recommended

 

[Lunaseraphim]

That's not a good idea because it leads guys towards thinking they have a real relationship with a prostitute

People do it but it's not recommended

Not recommended by whom? You? The National Association of Clients of Prostitutes? The Merb mods?

No, it doesn't lead guys towards thinking they have a ''real relationship'' with a prostitute. People are capable of intelligence and discernment. Clients are not passive people who are incapable of making proper choices on their own.

I have a lot of clients who book me once in a while, for a couple of hours. We exchange some wine and conversations, sometimes we share a meal, sometimes we listen to music or do activities together. None of them think they have a romantic relationship with me. We just have a good time together, and when the booking is over, they go home, or I go home.

 

[merbuser1221]

Not recommended by whom? You? The National Association of Clients of Prostitutes? The Merb mods?

No, it doesn't lead guys towards thinking they have a ''real relationship'' with a prostitute. People are capable of intelligence and discernment. Clients are not passive people who are incapable of making proper choices on their own.

I have a lot of clients who book me once in a while, for a couple of hours. We exchange some wine and conversations, sometimes we share a meal, sometimes we listen to music or do activities together. None of them think they have a romantic relationship with me. We just have a good time together, and when the booking is over, they go home, or I go home.

Most men who are doing this don't operate that way

And not recommended generally, because it doesn't lead to good outcomes

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Most men who are doing this don't operate that way

And not recommended generally, because it doesn't lead to good outcomes

But who are you to say ''most men'' and ''it doesn't lead to good outcomes''. Have you done serious research on this? Your account was created in December, but I'm assuming you've been here for much longer than that. Your observations are probably based on things you found out through talking about other clients here, but it's not necessarily always the most reliable source of information.

There hasn't been any negative outcomes for the clients I'm talking about, in the context of these bookings. Not everyone who books escorts operates the same way or has the same feelings and thoughts as you, or as those clients who are delusional and bitter because they weren't able to get a relationship through booking escorts, or because they are disillusioned by the service after many years of ''hobbying''.

The story I usually hear about clients who become confused usually goes a specific way. The provider starts hanging out with the client off the clock and gives him her real identity because she likes him as a person and doesn't want to lose him as a client, but he is still giving her money. Lines start getting blurred and not everything is clear. Sometimes these clients weren't looking for connection through booking escorts, even. This is a much different context and one that I would personally feel very uncomfortable in.

I think you're just not seeing the nuance I'm trying to describe. There are clients who are looking for a nice experience of connection and sensuality and pleasant moments shared together, and often these clients have a life of their own, with friends, healthy interests & hobbies, a family, etc. Sometimes they are even married but they want to experience something different. A lot more of this type of client than you think book escorts, they just aren't constantly commenting and commiserating here on this board, with a few exceptions.

Then there are clients who book escorts because they have serious issues they haven't worked through, including compulsive sexual behaviors and unrealistic views of sex. Some of them are very isolated and lonely and may harbor resentment over the fact that they are alone, and resign themselves to booking an escort. I have compassion for these clients personally but I think they should seek therapy before starting to book sex workers to fulfill their needs, either sexual or affective or both.

My point is that these clients shouldn't be booking escorts in the first place, no matter what it's for, because it's going to lead to a negative outcome no matter what. They should be getting therapy and working on themselves. Or they should seriously be limiting their activities.

 

[merbuser1221]

But who are you to say ''most men'' and ''it doesn't lead to good outcomes''. Your account was created in December. Have you done serious research on this? There hasn't been any negative outcomes for the clients I'm talking about, in the context of these bookings.

I'm active on various hobby forums, I've been mongering since 2015, I have 10+ years of experience in various countries throughout the world: mexico, canada, the DR, etc. I'm experienced in this industry

Not everyone who books escorts operates the same way or has the same feelings and thoughts as you, or as those clients who are delusional and bitter because they weren't able to get a relationship through booking escorts.

It doesn't matter if they have different "feelings and thoughts". I'm talking about facts and objective reality, if you want, you can fight reality as much as you want, but that won't change what reality is

I think you're just not seeing the nuance I'm trying to describe. There are clients who are looking for a nice experience of connection and sensuality and pleasant moments shared together, and often these clients have a life of their own, with friends, healthy interests & hobbies, a family, etc. Sometimes they are even married but they want to experience something different. A lot more of this type of client than you think book escorts, they just aren't constantly commenting and commiserating here on this board, with a few exceptions.

Yeah, they're looking for that because they want to make the escort their girlfriend

That's the whole point as to why they want that experience lol

And I'm saying that's a problem that started from square 1 because they went in wanting companionship and connection with an escort. If they want that, then they go to a regular girl in dating. Plus I don't think most escorts would even appreciate that, they probably want clients who see them as just service providers (I'm probably gonna get railed by a bunch of escorts on here for saying this but screw it, bring it on baby, let the railing begin)

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I'm active on various hobby forums, I've been mongering since 2015, I have 10+ years of experience in various countries throughout the world: mexico, canada, the DR, etc. I'm experienced in this industry

It doesn't matter if they have different "feelings and thoughts". I'm talking about facts and objective reality, if you want, you can fight reality as much as you want, but that won't change what reality is

Yeah, they're looking for that because they want to make the escort their girlfriend

That's the whole point as to why they want that experience lol

And I'm saying that's a problem that started from square 1 because they went in wanting companionship and connection with an escort. If they want that, then they go to a regular girl in dating. Plus I don't think most escorts would even appreciate that, they probably want clients who see them as just service providers (I'm probably gonna get railed by a bunch of escorts on here for saying this but screw it, bring it on baby, let the railing begin)

Idk if this is a problem of semantics, maybe to you ''companionship and connection'' means ''romantic development''. I'm talking about conversations and doing things together. I've never had one of those clients end up saying they wanted me to be their girlfriend. It literally never happened. The one thing I have to say is that often these bookings are spaced out. They aren't clients who are seeing me every week for a dinner date, so there is distance here.

Think about it this way. Some people have friends with benefits, and those people do not share a romantic relationships. Yet they cuddle, watch TV together, may eat some food together, who knows. But it's still not described as a romantic relationship.

You're active on forums, but what you don't see is the wide variety of clients who are quite inactive on forums or not present at all.

And you are not wrong. I don't want clients who see me as a potential girlfriend or wife, and most escorts don't want that. But a lot of escorts also don't like it when a client is using them as an inanimate object and prefer more chill bookings with conversations in between intimacy moments. That's all.