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Dramatic Spiderman Rescue in France!

cloudsurf

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Actually he wasn`t an immigrant but a migrant who snuck into the country illegally and was undocumented. Now he is a hero.
 

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All "immigrants" are "migrants" by default but not the opposite.

But GMA is correct. In France what matters is being a "sans papier" or not.

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The word “Immigrant” conveys no legal status. It means a person who moves from one country to another. A “migrant” is a person who goes from one place to another to work. The word “migrant” conveys no legal status. There are migrants within countries. There are migrants that have no countries. “Immigrant” conveys no legal status. “Migrant” conveys no legal status. I should not be having to educate on proper uses of these words. The guy was apparently both an immigrant and a migrant and I could have used either or both to describe him, but this discussion has nothing to do with the original post.
 
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im·mi·grant
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a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.

mi·grant
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a worker who moves from place to place to do seasonal work.

However migrant used as an adjective is a synonym for immigrant
 

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These days most newscast use the term migrant to imply an undocumented immigrant.
The meaning of words evolves over time with changes in society.
 

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Heroic acts are historically rewarded in France, The only other way outside of usual legal channels is to join The French Foreign Legion.
 

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In America the guy would probably have a Hollywood deal in the bag. But no paper ;)
 

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I am surprised not a single comment on the actual video, which is odd. The guy who climbed up the building like Spiderman did so quickly and very athletically, but what is odd is that there appears to be an adult standing on the balcony from which the child is dangling. Am I seeing things or is that what the video shows? No explanation is provided for who that person is or why they could not pull the child up safely. Meanwhile Spiderman, who I presume did not see that person, seems to scale the balcony and effortlessly scoop the child all in one bound. It was pretty heroic, but I don't understand why the heroism was necessary. This reminds me of the 1966 movie, "Blow Up"- did I see something all you guys did not see, or did I see something that was not there?
 

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EB, there is a separator hazard preventing the guy from grabbing more to the kid. He grabbed the kid a bit. Had he reached down for more, both the kid and the guy will fall off the balcony. His centre of gravity will tilt towards the deep dive .. . I think the guy also should have been rewarded or at least be recognised.
 

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I am not seeing what you are seeing for the guy on the balcony........looks like he can grab the kid without putting himself in danger, from the viewpoint of that camera angle.
 

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The thing is the kid couldn’t have hung on forever and the Spider-Man character likely saved the kid’s life by getting there just when he did. A full grown man can’t hang on long in this situation. Who can forget the 26 year old Chinese daredevil who fell off a 62nd story to his death in a viral video he was shooting. He hung on for less than a minute, and tried to do pull-ups, which were unsuccessful as you have no leverage in that position. So this was the tragic result:

(Viewer discretion advised)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ne...king-moment-Chinese-daredevil-fall-death.html
 

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I am surprised not a single comment on the actual video, which is odd. The guy who climbed up the building like Spiderman did so quickly and very athletically, but what is odd is that there appears to be an adult standing on the balcony from which the child is dangling. Am I seeing things or is that what the video shows? No explanation is provided for who that person is or why they could not pull the child up safely. Meanwhile Spiderman, who I presume did not see that person, seems to scale the balcony and effortlessly scoop the child all in one bound. It was pretty heroic, but I don't understand why the heroism was necessary. This reminds me of the 1966 movie, "Blow Up"- did I see something all you guys did not see, or did I see something that was not there?

First up, I agree entirely. It says a lot about this board when the entire discussion about this heroic rescue is centered on the person's immigration status.

From what I understood from news articles around the incident, the other adult you are referring to is the child's father. Apparently he was out of the apartment working on something and the child was left alone in the home. Apparently he came back home just in time to see his child dangling off the roof, but was unable to pull him to safety from that angle. Thankfully Mamaoudou Gassama arrived in time to take action. I also heard that the courts are considering charges against the father because the child was left at home alone.
 

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This isn't complicated. The guy is a selfless hero. And got rewarded: French citizenship. Sometimes, life just works out.
 

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This isn't complicated. The guy is a selfless hero. And got rewarded: French citizenship. Sometimes, life just works out.

He did not get citizenship. He will get valid papers which will make him eligible to apply for citizenship.

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Russ_Meyer

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In France, getting these papers that quick is like winning the fucking lottery or giving DATY to Sophie Marceau in a threesome with Ludivine Sagnier.
 
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Fox News is now berating the French for allowing an illegal to enter the country. They say the only proper treatment is sending him back home.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Roseanne Barr doesn’t come on to fow news as a commentator.
 

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Good eye EB. The little kid can be seen early on in the video about 5 ft. from the balcony partition where the father is positioned. (See the balcony below the father where the partition is clearly shown in the video) The kid gradually makes his way towards the father while being supported by the balcony (which partially extends out horizontally beyond the railing) The kid is trying to pull himself up but is too short and weak but is gradually moving closer to dad while standing on the overhang. The father has the kid by the right leg and some portion of the upper body (probably right arm - just before the immigrant grabs him by the left arm and yanks him from the father's grasp. This could have gone horribly wrong had the father resisted the kid being yanked so quickly. Being as cynical as I am I wonder if the whole incident wasn't staged.

Also, this was an easy climb. When I was 22 I would often scale trees, balconies, etc. because I loved to climb and was built like this kid. Every time the immigrant gets on top of one balcony railing he was in reach of the next balcony overhang. Stand up - pull yourself up - repeat 4 times. I'm sure his trip across the Mediterranean in a dingy was much more difficult.
 

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the guy on the other side of the fence was not his father, all he could do was holding his hand.

the kid lived 2 story higher and had managed to go down without falling!

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Correction. The father was out playing Pokemon. It was the neighbor shown in the video, who is pulling the kid to safety when the immigrant yanks him by one arm. I read some recent news reports and this story gets even more suspicious. It is reported that the father's balcony is actually 2 stories above where the kid is shown. It was surmised that the kid fell 2 balconies down to the 4th floor balcony where he was shown in the video. Something fishy in Denmark.
 
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