what do you guys really think of the escort business and the girls that does escorts?do you think they are nasty dirty girls or you respect them...
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what do you guys really think of the escort business and the girls that does escorts?do you think they are nasty dirty girls or you respect them...i respect them 110% and so should you, anybody that does not respect a escort especially after she has treated him nicely is a sick individual that needs psychiatric help(a.k.a scumbag). i too do not fully understand your question
We won't have the same mileage
I don't see why you would not respect them. They are as normal as anyone else. Sure they might have more sex than you did in your lifetime, you can have the prejudice that some of them are on drugs like street workers on Ste-Catherine, but truthfully, I have dated two of them and they are as normal as one can be. Does it mean that they still work as we are dating? One of them did. But that ended fast – not because of her work. And the second one we dated briefly, but I can say this, casual sex is amazing. All the good things without having a clock over you. Of course, I can review her and give all ten's but then again my mileage did vary.
I don't see why you would not respect them. They are as normal as anyone else. Sure they might have more sex than you did in your lifetime, you can have the prejudice that some of them are on drugs like street workers on Ste-Catherine, but truthfully, I have dated two of them and they are as normal as one can be. Does it mean that they still work as we are dating? One of them did. But that ended fast – not because of her work. And the second one we dated briefly, but I can say this, casual sex is amazing. All the good things without having a clock over you. Of course, I can review her and give all ten's but then again my mileage did vary.
Conolly said:
Respect is a hard word to use in the English language. It can be said that you respect the profession, and the position that this hobby takes us.
As far as the son bringing home a girlfriend that was an escort, I think I could respect this decision and be proud that my son is not being charged for sex with this lady. Now my respect turned to compassion or endearment for the lady, quite possibly for love of my son I would offer to fund her if she was 'college student' to just go to school. I respect that escorting or working in general and attending university is a big endeavour.
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/respect
The question remains do you respect the lady's rules, and prices. This is respect (obedience).
Do you look forward to meeting an escort and value the time spent with one?
respect (value)
Do you say "She was so beautiful, and made me feel so alive when I am with her. There is something about that lady that just turns me on."
respect (regard)
I believe I respect "escorts" and "escort services" until something gets stolen, confidentiality gets broken, or diseases are given to the clients.
Now if you look at "mistresses" of old and Japanese Businessman Geisha, the John provided enough money to house and feed his 'escort'. That my friend is respect.
Racism vs Respect... These really can't be compared to me because subtle racists can respect (live and let live); where a pure extreme racist can't fathom (most likely due to fear, and hatred) the idea of another race.
Respectfully,
HockeyFan
As far as the son bringing home a girlfriend that was an escort, I think I could respect this decision and be proud that my son is not being charged for sex with this lady. Now my respect turned to compassion or endearment for the lady, quite possibly for love of my son I would offer to fund her if she was 'college student' to just go to school. I respect that escorting or working in general and attending university is a big endeavour.
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/respect
The question remains do you respect the lady's rules, and prices. This is respect (obedience).
Do you look forward to meeting an escort and value the time spent with one?
respect (value)
Do you say "She was so beautiful, and made me feel so alive when I am with her. There is something about that lady that just turns me on."
respect (regard)
I believe I respect "escorts" and "escort services" until something gets stolen, confidentiality gets broken, or diseases are given to the clients.
Now if you look at "mistresses" of old and Japanese Businessman Geisha, the John provided enough money to house and feed his 'escort'. That my friend is respect.
Racism vs Respect... These really can't be compared to me because subtle racists can respect (live and let live); where a pure extreme racist can't fathom (most likely due to fear, and hatred) the idea of another race.
Respectfully,
HockeyFan
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Comprehension difficulty?
Scumbag? Psychiatrist? Respect?
Ok, first off, before anyone jumps down MY throat. Escorts are women, hence human beings, thus worthy of all the respect, compassion and deference we all deserve as human beings. That goes without saying. But I don't think that's what Conolly had in mind when he asked the question. But what's so hard to understand about his question?
I have struggled in the past, with the notion of a woman (or a man) charging others for something that is pleasurable and part of nature... but it is, after all, a provided service. Business with strong emotions and sensations attached. What I struggled with was the promiscuity, the emotional predicament it leaves us in. Many escorts are druggies, many are insecure, many do it for the money it can generate. How often don't we see fabulous new talent coming in, only to see a mere shell left after a year or so?
But I digress. What is so hard to understand about the question? It is a human one. And I think your incredulous reactions are perhaps an indication that you are not quite so secure with the notion yourselves?
I don't often see escorts because I think it is something that I can easily get for free. I don't really like the idea of paying for companionship. And its not just that. Many escorts I have seen were fun in ways other than sexual, and it would pain me to see them go after one hour. I wished they would hang out and have some genuine laughs with me, talk about anything and everything. But an escort is a paid companion, not a true friend... not that it never happens though, but still.
Respect? Yes, I respect them... they have made a choice and they live by it. What of those who jump into it when they hit eighteen years and one second? How many are willing participants? How many realize what they are doing? I certainly didn't have a clue at eighteen. Think about it... hunderds of men touching, licking, grabbing and pounding away at those nubile young bodies... some men will caress, tenderly, affectionately... others will just jump right in, telling themselves "you are mine, girl, I paid for you and I'm going to pound away to my heart's delight". Just because she is paid for, doesn't make her property for an hour or more. You want to respect them? Think about tha next time some fresh barely legal new talent hits the scene.
So, I ask again, what is so hard to understand? Escorting is a touchy issue at best. I don't think nature ever intended it so, yet it is the oldest proffession... go figure. I'm not passing moral judgement here, but I do think alot has to be put aside and tucked away in order to see an escort. Sex was intended for procreation... and, of course, pleasure. An escort is paid to provide the pleasureable aspect. Is it right, wrong? Who knows? But there are issues attached and there is no harm examining them. So, let's not get all indignant, self-righteous and holier than thou about it. More importantly let's not attack one who dares ask the question.
Scumbag? Psychiatrist? Respect?
Ok, first off, before anyone jumps down MY throat. Escorts are women, hence human beings, thus worthy of all the respect, compassion and deference we all deserve as human beings. That goes without saying. But I don't think that's what Conolly had in mind when he asked the question. But what's so hard to understand about his question?
I have struggled in the past, with the notion of a woman (or a man) charging others for something that is pleasurable and part of nature... but it is, after all, a provided service. Business with strong emotions and sensations attached. What I struggled with was the promiscuity, the emotional predicament it leaves us in. Many escorts are druggies, many are insecure, many do it for the money it can generate. How often don't we see fabulous new talent coming in, only to see a mere shell left after a year or so?
But I digress. What is so hard to understand about the question? It is a human one. And I think your incredulous reactions are perhaps an indication that you are not quite so secure with the notion yourselves?
I don't often see escorts because I think it is something that I can easily get for free. I don't really like the idea of paying for companionship. And its not just that. Many escorts I have seen were fun in ways other than sexual, and it would pain me to see them go after one hour. I wished they would hang out and have some genuine laughs with me, talk about anything and everything. But an escort is a paid companion, not a true friend... not that it never happens though, but still.
Respect? Yes, I respect them... they have made a choice and they live by it. What of those who jump into it when they hit eighteen years and one second? How many are willing participants? How many realize what they are doing? I certainly didn't have a clue at eighteen. Think about it... hunderds of men touching, licking, grabbing and pounding away at those nubile young bodies... some men will caress, tenderly, affectionately... others will just jump right in, telling themselves "you are mine, girl, I paid for you and I'm going to pound away to my heart's delight". Just because she is paid for, doesn't make her property for an hour or more. You want to respect them? Think about tha next time some fresh barely legal new talent hits the scene.
So, I ask again, what is so hard to understand? Escorting is a touchy issue at best. I don't think nature ever intended it so, yet it is the oldest proffession... go figure. I'm not passing moral judgement here, but I do think alot has to be put aside and tucked away in order to see an escort. Sex was intended for procreation... and, of course, pleasure. An escort is paid to provide the pleasureable aspect. Is it right, wrong? Who knows? But there are issues attached and there is no harm examining them. So, let's not get all indignant, self-righteous and holier than thou about it. More importantly let's not attack one who dares ask the question.
Why ?? Escorts come from all walks of life, they are not different from any other women such as the ones that you might meet at Church or in a bar etc etc etc. Why would you want to treat them differently ?Conolly said:
LOL Hockeyfan....
Seriously though... it's interesting, a friend of mine just told me a story I find pertinent... somewhat. He put a couch out on the street as his cats mistook it for a litter box. Late in the night he heard a guy screaming outside. He looked out the window to see a woman lying on the couch and a man dragging her with it, telling her to get off her ass and follow him.
Well it turns out she was a streetwalker and he was her boyfriend/pimp. He explained that she had just endured an anal assault which left her unable to walk. He was losing patience and wanted her "off her ass". In the end he dragged her to her feet and she waddled off to the best of her ability.
Who is the worst scumbag? The one who paid to wreck her? The pimp? Her, for allowing herself to become addicted to drugs and chose such a life? Did she choose the life? Did it choose her? Was she respected? More importantly... does she respect herself?
This is a different scenario from the escorts we deal with here, I know. But it begs the question once more... what do you think of escorting?
Don't get me wrong. Life is fun and I get alot of laughs and enjoyment reading the many posts here. But this situation is real, serious and not all that humourous.
Seriously though... it's interesting, a friend of mine just told me a story I find pertinent... somewhat. He put a couch out on the street as his cats mistook it for a litter box. Late in the night he heard a guy screaming outside. He looked out the window to see a woman lying on the couch and a man dragging her with it, telling her to get off her ass and follow him.
Well it turns out she was a streetwalker and he was her boyfriend/pimp. He explained that she had just endured an anal assault which left her unable to walk. He was losing patience and wanted her "off her ass". In the end he dragged her to her feet and she waddled off to the best of her ability.
Who is the worst scumbag? The one who paid to wreck her? The pimp? Her, for allowing herself to become addicted to drugs and chose such a life? Did she choose the life? Did it choose her? Was she respected? More importantly... does she respect herself?
This is a different scenario from the escorts we deal with here, I know. But it begs the question once more... what do you think of escorting?
Don't get me wrong. Life is fun and I get alot of laughs and enjoyment reading the many posts here. But this situation is real, serious and not all that humourous.
Fred Zed said:
Ummm... where in his question does he give us the impression that we should treat them differently? The question is do we view them differently.
Do I view the woman who sells her body differently from the one who eschews escorting for a stable relationship? Of course I do. Do I respect the escort any less? No.
Do I respect the clean, honest escort who will enjoy her paid time with me and respect herself and me more or less than the proverbial crack whore? No. But I won't go near the addicted self-destructing woman. I will feel compassion and wish that she find a way to get out of that life.
What do you think, Fred Zed, if you compare a high level escort, fully aware of what she is doing in full posession of her faculties to the one who is on drugs and has little or no self control or self respect?
The Woodworker said:
I believe that encounters that are mutually enjoyable to both parties should be legal. I respect this position of Canada. I vote for it with my money.
If they started collecting VAT and PST I would pay them.
The scenario you offered above is commonly found in America big cities and is illegal. The pimp, the street walker, and the john and in my opinion the pimp is the least 'honourable' as they normally are the parasite of the dollars earned from the street walker. I do not use these services for many reasons. One being the pimp, two being my guilt that someone doesn't want to do this and is doing it to "survive". The SW should be on government assistance, and thrown into rehab.
An escort in my minds eye that I seek is one that doesn't really need the money really but just does this because they 'like' this line of work. The money is a token of respect for her service which is skilled. This escort is just using the trade to enhance their life with the quick, easy money it provides while taking enjoyment from it.
Escorting brings alot of quick money to those that are going to school and the like from what I have read and is only done so they don't have to work when they are into university. I hope they too enjoy their time in the 'trade'.
The world is full of pain, there has to be a way that hobbying doesn't 'contribute' to it. I believe EB is the example to follow, always the gentleman.
You wanted my opinion, there it is. Hope its not too rose colored! LOL
Thank You
Thank you Hockey fan for your candid answer and for not perverting the issue. The worl is indeed full of pain, and the scenario I presented is hardly indicative of Merbite activities. Still though, it is to be taken seriously and is part and parcel of the escorting world.
The point is to have fun without hurting anyone.
Thank you Hockey fan for your candid answer and for not perverting the issue. The worl is indeed full of pain, and the scenario I presented is hardly indicative of Merbite activities. Still though, it is to be taken seriously and is part and parcel of the escorting world.
The point is to have fun without hurting anyone.
Sounds like a gang bang!
What of those who jump into it when they hit eighteen years and one second? hunderds of men touching, licking, grabbing and pounding away at those nubile young bodies........Wow woodworker do you write for Penthouse forum? I'm hot after reading that!
Great response woodworker! Connoly you are the most curious dude I know. Thats cool though. We have had this discussion about strippers versus "regular" girls and many of the comments here are along the lines of the answers to your question in that thread. So hows that thesis coming?
I would like to add that many "regular" girls act like sluts but they seem to be the ones most guys are drooling over. The disturbing part to me is that they are being taught to act like this when they are very young. I used to think "Wow, I can't believe the way young girls are dressing nowadays." Then it occured to me "Wow, someone is making a lot of money marketing these clothes to young girls." Then "Wow, someone let their daughter out of the house wearing that?!"
Girls are just doing what they are taught, blatantly and subliminally. They are doing whatever guys will pay attention too and they have no qualms about it. Many of them want attention, others want a meal ticket/sugar daddy and sex is what they sell to get what they want. I think more women than we realize engage in some kind of prostitution whether it be as an SP or just trying to get guys to spend money on them. We are the reason for it though because we are the ones putting the money out there. So how about this for a question, do any of you feel guilty?
What of those who jump into it when they hit eighteen years and one second? hunderds of men touching, licking, grabbing and pounding away at those nubile young bodies........Wow woodworker do you write for Penthouse forum? I'm hot after reading that!
Great response woodworker! Connoly you are the most curious dude I know. Thats cool though. We have had this discussion about strippers versus "regular" girls and many of the comments here are along the lines of the answers to your question in that thread. So hows that thesis coming?
I would like to add that many "regular" girls act like sluts but they seem to be the ones most guys are drooling over. The disturbing part to me is that they are being taught to act like this when they are very young. I used to think "Wow, I can't believe the way young girls are dressing nowadays." Then it occured to me "Wow, someone is making a lot of money marketing these clothes to young girls." Then "Wow, someone let their daughter out of the house wearing that?!"
Girls are just doing what they are taught, blatantly and subliminally. They are doing whatever guys will pay attention too and they have no qualms about it. Many of them want attention, others want a meal ticket/sugar daddy and sex is what they sell to get what they want. I think more women than we realize engage in some kind of prostitution whether it be as an SP or just trying to get guys to spend money on them. We are the reason for it though because we are the ones putting the money out there. So how about this for a question, do any of you feel guilty?
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This happens to escorts also. More than once I have said to myself if only we had met under different circumstances...
Ronnie,
Naughtylady
me again
cause am writting a sort of book about it......about the sex industry and escorting,strippers and regulars girls....i need more info...what client think and the workers think....
i need to know were all sex workers or as they say 1out of 4 were sexually abuse or was it a lack of love there parent and familly didnt give them when they grew up!!!
i need to know why most girls between the age of 16-22 are being pimp yeah 16 cause theres are alot of 16-17 year old working those agency's and strip joint and i know i few since when i see them escorts everything shall remain anonymous....i see escorts on regular basis and ask them questions for my documentary...that about it that why i ask so many question about this world of sex!!!
cause am writting a sort of book about it......about the sex industry and escorting,strippers and regulars girls....i need more info...what client think and the workers think....
i need to know were all sex workers or as they say 1out of 4 were sexually abuse or was it a lack of love there parent and familly didnt give them when they grew up!!!
i need to know why most girls between the age of 16-22 are being pimp yeah 16 cause theres are alot of 16-17 year old working those agency's and strip joint and i know i few since when i see them escorts everything shall remain anonymous....i see escorts on regular basis and ask them questions for my documentary...that about it that why i ask so many question about this world of sex!!!
Here: (sexuality) is a link to my lecture notes for my sexuality class. You will find alot of good statistics here. I also reccomend the text book for that class, again lots of good info. You can find the text at the Concordia book store downtown on deMaisonneuve.
Hyde, J.S., J.D. DeLamater & E. Sandra Byers.
2004 Understanding Human Sexuality, 2nd Canadian Edition. McGraw-Hill Ryerson
It seems to me that some of your info is based on stereotypes and not well researched statistics.
This professor is very open, if you need help finding certain types of info I am certain she will guide you in the right direction.
What exactly is the topic of this book? I might be able to reccomend you some other resources as well.
Ronnie,
Naughtylady
Hyde, J.S., J.D. DeLamater & E. Sandra Byers.
2004 Understanding Human Sexuality, 2nd Canadian Edition. McGraw-Hill Ryerson
It seems to me that some of your info is based on stereotypes and not well researched statistics.
This professor is very open, if you need help finding certain types of info I am certain she will guide you in the right direction.
What exactly is the topic of this book? I might be able to reccomend you some other resources as well.
Ronnie,
Naughtylady
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cant
i cant really give you name of agency's with minors in it...but i know a few,these days fake ID cards are easy to be made...
strip club as less of minors since there bouncers and boss know how fake cards look like....
but agency's owner get fool alot by it....trust me...
i cant really give you name of agency's with minors in it...but i know a few,these days fake ID cards are easy to be made...
strip club as less of minors since there bouncers and boss know how fake cards look like....
but agency's owner get fool alot by it....trust me...
The WoodWorker said:
naughtylady said:
I look at this a little different... I would be glad to want to be coming back for more. The above doesn't bring pain to me, it gives me "something to look forward to?" but not something to live for.. I would rather have something to look forward to, another trip another fabulous experience. Maybe its different for you WoodWorker as you are local or looking/longing for a full time companion?
As for broken hearts and tears ... Number one is the casual sex/dating ... it starts off fun and having good times then you find the baggage that the person brings with them or some try to change the relationship into an instant "full" time girl friend situation. Others think that this widower was just joking when he said he doesn't want to get married again/start a really serious relation because he is not ready.
Sometimes the casual sex/dating claims you are just using her for sex and don't care about them as a "friend".. blah blah.. Another woman didn't like me spending money on her or helping her with her monetary baggage with raising 3 kids alone (the father sent no money).. said I was treating her like a hooker. That "friendship" was stressed really with the lack of time we could spend together and I was seeking an ends to a means to spend time with the overworked woman (she really is MILFish)... I was like fuck this scene, I didn't ask to be thrown into being single again (my wife died, she knew this, she knew alot about me as only a friend knows someone hopes, desires, secrets, and soul).
So I began a little hobby... haven't hurt anyone yet or dealt with anything but fear, excitement, and passion.
Escorts don't bring the situations of jealousy, accusations, clingyness to the table for me, but I remember someone writing about a bad experience with the SP yelling at them like this, but it was isolated and the SP was drunk.
I really want to be able to lower my guard, enjoy the moments, and be able to walk away with wanting to repeat. You found someone you just want hang out with, book her and hang out with her. Maybe you will have a friend as this business can be temporary means to an end for some?
From the retired SP's that write here, they sometimes have friends that were ex-clients...
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