Fake-scammer escorts/pimps really making big-bucks with the new law...

[2fast2slow]

i have hobbyed a few times in germany. Pasha was a complete turn on. walking down hallways filled with scantilly dressed women smiling at you, knowing you can have sex with whomever you chose...but the actual sex was never very good...always 'bumsen and blasen'....fuck and suck. when i asked for bbbj or kissing, either no or 50-150 euros more. And i dont remember the base price being 50 euros, that was 15 years ago.

im sure there are ways to get better service in germany, but did not find it. Always wanted to try FKKs...

I do find the prices in montreal have been creeping up pretty quickly, getting closer and closer to the prices of toronto and vancouver...

yes backpage and the like is mostly filler, but there are some real quality people on there.

 

[azzaro]

Patron - The Romanians dominate and most of them do it cuz it's so easy for them - lots of them are quite pushy from Bacharest but other small town ones are really very normal/and wanna do this for fun as well since it is legal and safe. On my visit last year when talking to the girls , ALL of them said they do it for the reasons I just mentioned.

The Fkks I visited had mostly German clientele and the girls really seemed to enjoy working in an environment like that (safe, clean and legal). The sessions with the guys , they said, were quite normal (nothing kinky) since the clientele were very educated guys 35-65. I also met with quite a few German, Polish and Yes Russian girls.

I am a big socializer - even in an Fkks (visited 5 of them).
Don't get a chance at all here in Canada - not even in a regular club.

 

[2fast2slow]

i am glad there are no brothels here...first of all, i would be terrified of seeing someone I know there...not very discreet. Plus like others have said, not good for the overall image of the business. If there was a Pasha in montreal, it would bug me knowing it is there, but i cant go because worried someone i know would recognize me.

 

[hungry101]

On a "microeconomic" level, I don't think Azarro is correct about his comparisons. I researched the Cologne, Germany area once and the consensus on ISG and the local German boards is that the Pascha megabrothel that he speaks highly of in another thread does not have good looking women, and the reports indicate that any service beyond non-GFE and CBJs are upsold rather heavily. As can be seen from Hungry's fantastic reports, the prices at the preferred FKKs for GFE from a beautiful girl is not that different from Montreal. Most guys on an FKK visit, including the entrance fee, will spend more in total than they would seeing a Montreal escort. With that much pussy in your face all the time during the FKK stay, a guy just keeps buying some more. The price of true European upper-end outcall escorts is also not that different than in Montreal. Of course Germany has a bargain scene, but hell, so does the U.S. You can go on usasexguide.info and find girls in every city for $100. They are skanks and you have to weed through the scams. When I really read the details on ISG of the very lowest cost German red light districts, I get a feeling that there are plenty of skanks. I realize that two decades ago, things were a lot different due to the horrific economies in Eastern Europe and the Ukraine. But as those economies have improved, the prices throughout Europe have increased. As could be predicted, when the German government recently imposed increased regulations, the ladies used it as an opportunity to further increase prices for GFE services. So when I want to compare apples to apples, I look at Hungry's excellent reports. He sees top-notch Montreal escorts and fine European girls in Germany. I don't think it is valid to compare Germany's red light districts and Pascha to Montreal's merb escorts.

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My ears were ringing and I read this thread and got to Patron's post. This is the excerpt from my Golden Time report that Patron was referring to. It was the summary of a 2-hour repeat visit with a German girl Bella that I fell for the last two trips:

Damage - 200 Euro but in Canada it would have been over 440-600 CDN (270-370 Euro) and in the USA it would have been 600-800$ (468-650 Euro), so not a bad treat to be with this cutie-pie. She kisses well, fucks well, looks cute and makes you feel good. She is solid and maybe not deserving of all the accolades I gave her. She is solid and like most of the German girls I have met gives solid service. Nothing is out of this world. Later she would hang on me a bit. I dropped some money on this one. There is more where this comes from and she like my personality (and money).

I was surprised that when I did the math two hours was about the same in both countries...except I got a free beer and schnitzel from a buffet in Germany...so far no Quebecois has brought me dinner and a beer (wait, maybe at the parties.).

I don't want to come off as some super-hobbyist but I have been fortunate to get around a bit. The consistent feeling of satisfaction that I have after a Montreal escort leaves my room is unparalleled. I have no idea what this Azzaro guy is talking about. He seems jaded.

It has literally been since 2014 since I had a sub-par experience with a Montreal agency escort. I have also opened the door a couple of times since 2011 and thought Meh? But those girls performed. I mean really performed to the tune of I didn't want them to leave at the end of the date in those instances.

On another note Patron. You said that a few Arabs living in Germany didn't like the fact that the flag of their mother country was flying over a whorehouse? Did it ever occur to them that there was a reason that they no longer live in that miserable fucking sun-scorched patch of uninhabitable desert in the first place? Go the fuck back and get the fuck out of Germany. Go enjoy stoning a neighbor or something.

 

[hungry101]

Yes, there is some entertainment outside the room. But these FKK girls are hustling for an appointment. I try to talk to as many as I can. They will talk with you a little while but only so much. One girls at Sharks was pissed and grabbed my cock and twisted it because I wouldn't go to the room. I found out that that is her modus operandi. A couple of girls were just fed up with me after I passed on them. Another crawled all over me and when I told her I just got here she stomped off angrily mumbling "...and you touched my body..." She was pissed. The next girl I spoke with commented that she watched that girl crawl all over me. Back circa 2012 at the FKK you used to make-out outside the room but if you did so you were committed to a session. So yes, there is some socialization going on but the girls are not going to socialize to much with a guy that will not session. The good thing is that there are lots of girls to meet. The RO and Bulgarian girls can be real high pressure.

The Termas in Rio are similar but a little less pressure. I have went to private parties in Corumba Brazil and the girls were real friendly until you sessioned and after they got paid most would leave. Some stayed around (I almost fell in love with one). The girls in LAA will even go home with you. The scene is fun.

I loved the Montreal parties I have attended because some girls were there just to socialize and that is all. So they were there specifically to meet people and have drinks. I liked this. However, I liked the girls that were there to session better LOL.

Yes, this part of the hobby is a lot of fun...I get it. But I have wasted a lot of time in Brothels because I couldn't get my sex addicted ass outside of the brothel to do some regular tourist type things. It took a sore pcker to get me out of the brothel so I can go on a tour of a lifetime. You, for example, do outcall or incall and you enjoy the women and then go off and tour.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Many didn't offer drinks and rarely did anyone provide snacks. I was surprised to hear that more than half the clients made no attempt to make sex pleasant for them.

I think it depend on the type of meeting you have. If you book 4h then yes drinks should be provided. But if you book 1h? Is it really nessessary? You are gonna talk for 5-10mins at most then you gonna have sex.

 

[Rinzler]

You are gonna talk for 5-10mins at most then you gonna have sex.

Girls like the gesture nonetheless. Sets the mood.

 

[gugu]

All because of the law that favors them (fake escorts/pimps) putting up the fake ads and criminalizing/scamming the John.

Scamming is nothing new. If there is more of it today, I'm not sure of that, it probably has more to do with the free advertisement platforms on the Internet rather then scammers making a rational decision based on the new law. Clients did not report to the LE before and they don't today because of wished anonymity rather then the legal framework. Hard to find legit escorts in Montréal? You must be joking.

 

[hungry101]

I wonder if Azzaro had a few back-to-back sessions go south or something? I know that I can sometimes swear off the hobby based on some bad luck. Azzaro can you please direct me to your review or reviews of these bad dates?

 

[azzaro]

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I don't have money to burn, trying to go from one apt to the other or agency to agency to find the one that will satisfy me (like some guys do). I am also not the one that can go to high class ones and shower them with presents and pay them 300 bucks an hour.

I am also not the one that has sex once a day. I do it 3 or 4 times a day (no pills)..because I am a virile southern euro background middle age educated , average looking dude. Sure there are legit escorts, but not for the 90% of the guys in Montreal who need it but can't afford the "high class" ones...who can be a hit or a miss too (they play a game called "if you visit me often, I will give you more").

That should answer everybody's questions above.

 

[Halloween Mike]

azzaro

Honestly i think its not 90% but actually the 10% remaining like you who have a problem. If you do your homework you won't need to go from apt to apt. Nobody ask you to shower them with present and if you find 300$ per hour expensive, your either super cheat or you lack the reality of what they offer you. These girls let you have sex with them for christ sake... Whats 300$ to satisfy a fantasy you maybe could had never done?

You have sex 4 times a day, good for you but then find a nympho girlfriend, don't look for an escort. I masturbate usually 2-3 times a day as well, im always horny, im always looking at porn, if i could i would call an escort every day too. But thats not life unless your millionaire.

I think you should buy yourself a sex doll, that would resolve your problem cause obviously what you ask for is just not something realistic. You basically want a model like beauty for as cheap as 100$h ... yeah well good luck with that... in dreamland.

 

[azzaro]

Honestly i think its not 90% but actually the 10% remaining like you who have a problem. If you do your homework you won't need to go from apt to apt. Nobody ask you to shower them with present and if you find 300$ per hour expensive, your either super cheat or you lack the reality of what they offer you. These girls let you have sex with them for christ sake... Whats 300$ to satisfy a fantasy you maybe could had never done?

You have sex 4 times a day, good for you but then find a nympho girlfriend, don't look for an escort. I masturbate usually 2-3 times a day as well, im always horny, im always looking at porn, if i could i would call an escort every day too. But thats not life unless your millionaire.

I think you should buy yourself a sex doll, that would resolve your problem cause obviously what you ask for is just not something realistic. You basically want a model like beauty for as cheap as 100$h ... yeah well good luck with that... in dreamland.

You must be a pimp to talk like that..a scammer..just like the escorts that scam tourists and out-of-towners....almost ALL escorts in Montreal are scammers...those who live in Montreal know that.

If you a pompous ass and have loads of money, good for you. DO NOT mess with the general population of horny guys like me ..yes we are in the majority who can't pay and attend GT parties etc.

The in-towner guys know the few escorts who give them service (because they know the city). If you are not from Montreal, BEWARE...don't lose your money and your life dealing with the low-lifes that advertise on backpage, humpchies, annon123etc.

 

[Julia Sky]

Mike is a regular out-of-towner dude. You jump to conclusions too fast. Also thanks for insulting me and a bunch of other girls. You're embarassing yourself.. That's a cute tantrum.

 

[hungry101]

Mike did work for an agency at one time...it was a short period of time...mostly, Mike is a consumer like me and I have found him to be honest. In fact, I’d let him hold my wallet while I took a girl upstairs. The poor guy is no scammer.

You need to provide a few links to your reviews of these girls. I can tell you if you stick with the agencies nominated on this board and the indies, you won’t have a problem.

Otherwise, quite respectfully, I think you are full of shit.

 

[jalimon]

Otherwise, quite respectfully, I think you are full of shit.

Quite respectfully i am now washing my laptop screen as its full of coffee because of you!

Azzaro you are dead wrong. I have done this in many countries. Enough to say Montreal and suburbs are a mecca for the hobby. And no you do not need to be filthy rich nor cover the girl with gift.
If you are not a local stick to agencies. Period. Yes bp, hump and other add sites are full of scams... But also there is some pearls in there that you can dig out when you got a bit of know how.

Cheers,

 

[jalimon]

I don't have money to burn, trying to go from one apt to the other or agency to agency to find the one that will satisfy me (like some guys do).

With Merb's review and private message you can avoid that and pretty much guarantee sure hit on every encounter.

I am also not the one that can go to high class ones and shower them with presents and pay them 300 bucks an hour.

300 an hour is not high class one as you call them. It's basically upper end as I would call it. I very rarely pay that. Only when in need of a unicorn fantasy

I am also not the one that has sex once a day. I do it 3 or 4 times a day (no pills)..because I am a virile southern euro background middle age educated , average looking dude. Sure there are legit escorts, but not for the 90% of the guys in Montreal who need it but can't afford the "high class" ones...who can be a hit or a miss too (they play a game called "if you visit me often, I will give you more").

Only a girl friend would satisfy you. You should try it out. It's not difficult to find. Ho and by the way the "if you visit me often I will give you more" does sometimes have some truth to it yes. But the only guarantee you will have with "high class" one is that you will pay more, that's it. It takes two to tango. Sex is sex after all.

Cheers,

 

[heliragedeleted]

Lol, I was just thinking: loris azzaro colognes etc.. stank and were not worth their price.

 

[Flyingby]

Azzaro, is there any point to this thread. People have given you sound advice and all you do is complain and bitch about prices and the women here. It’s like your trying to get people onto your side but it’s not working. Like anything. There are always scammers and bad seeds. Even a great provider can have a bad day. You want to have some great sex. Read the reviews. Pick a girl that sounds like she’ll go msog. If you’re as good looking and fun to be around as you think I can even recommend some. But stop complaining about prices and the women here since you’re the problem and not them

 

[EagerBeaver]

Flyingby,

Azzaro has been suspended and will not be responding to your inquiry.

 

[Flyingby]

Flyingby,

Azzaro has been suspended and will not be responding to your inquiry.

Lol. Did not see that