Hamas & Israel

[snakejack]

Exactly, to treat “kicking out” equally we need to remember that not only Palestinian Arabs were expelled from Israel, but almost equal number of Jews were expelled at the same time from Arab countries.

There’s not a single Jew who was kicked out of Morocco. The left voluntarily.

They were more Jews than Moroccan. This is why they left.

And on a final note, Mohammed IV, the then king of Morocco refuse to give the Moroccan Jews to Hitler. He said they are Moroccan citizens of Jewish faith.

Unfortunately, the Jews betrayed him when they decided to go to Israel. They showed that they did not care about Morocco.

 

[minutemenX]

There’s not a single Jew who was kicked out of Morocco. The left voluntarily.

They were more Jews than Moroccan. This is why they left.

And on a final note, Mohammed IV, the then king of Morocco refuse to give the Moroccan Jews to Hitler. He said they are Moroccan citizens of Jewish faith.

Unfortunately, the Jews betrayed him when they decided to go to Israel. They showed that they did not care about Morocco.

Maybe Morocco was an exception and Jews left “voluntarily”. Though the question remains why they moved from more prosperous Morocco to Israel that was dirt poor at that time. Jews however have been forcibly expelled from many other Arab countries, and their property was often confiscated.

 

[snakejack]

Very informative article:

‘They have total impunity’: West Bank settler violence surges after Gaza ceasefire

UN logs 260 attacks in October alone, its highest monthly tally, as settlers attack farmers and burn olive trees

www.theguardian.com

 

[snakejack]

A completely ignorant comment which demonstrates that your grasp of history isn't sufficient to be posting here:

Jewish diaspora - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Do you know who the Palestinians mostly descended from? Have you ever heard of the Bedouin Arabs? Many of them now work as trackers for the IDF, something I am fairly certain you probably didn't know. The Bedouin Arabs, by definition, were a nomadic tribe. They had no homeland! They roamed the desert. And rode camels. Ironically your dumb quote above applies far more to the Palestinians than the Jews if you study the history of the land now known as Israel and the so called "occupied lands" for the last 5,000 years.

Let’s suppose you’re right. The people who were there before the Jews do have a claim on the Holy land.

 

[snakejack]

These false dilemma questions not rooted in reality are silly. I am neither a Zionist nor Jewish. By ethnicity I am half Jewish. I am also too old to fight or be conscripted in any war so the question is irrelevant. Most of the males in my family served in the United States armed forces, but I do not qualify for military service for physical/health reasons.

I am calling it as I see it but also from the perspective of having feedback from Israeli relatives I regularly communicate with.

One more time:

If Canada or USA is going to war against Israel, will you support Canada ?

Simply say YES or NO

 

[snakejack]

Exactly, to treat “kicking out” equally we need to remember that not only Palestinian Arabs were expelled from Israel, but almost equal number of Jews were expelled at the same time from Arab countries.

Do you have a source to quote ?

 

[snakejack]

For most Jews, religion has nothing to do with it as opposed to cultural and ethnic traditions. Do not mistake the beliefs of the minority of reilgious zealots for the entire nation. The government is secular notwithstanding that the minority of religious zealots do have a disproportionate influence in policy decisions which infuriates many or most Israelis. However, this is nothing like the Islamic Republics in the region which are based on religion and are not secular at all. No separation of Mosque and State, at all.

The Jews did occupy these lands as the nation of Israel (or what we now know as such) for 2,000 plus years until the Diaspora. They did not "quit". Stop insulting Jews and read some history because your posts seem incredibly ignorant on this subject. It's entirely fair to say that the Palestinians have far less of a claim to the West Bank than Native Americans do to all of Canada and the USA. History supports that conclusion, whether you want to believe it or not.

Palestinian were also living there 2000 + years ago and they were not Muslim. It’s also their land and they have a right to it.

This is why Canada, France, UK, Norway, Germany, Italy and so on are now recognizing the state of Palestine.

And by the way, like many of us I have native blood … my grand mother used to live in kanawake just saying. And I don’t feel at all ashamed about it and I am a very very proud Canadian citizen having served my country for 20 years in the Canadian armed forces.

unlike you, I do not base my identity on religion.

Are you a Canadian citizen or a Jewish guy living in Canada ?

 

[snakejack]

Sure, there is also no Canada. It is all Indian land. Arabs are also not native they came from Arabia after Jews already lived there for 2000 years and so on...

Palestinian were also living there 2000 + years ago and they were not Muslim. It’s also their land and they have a right to it.

This is why Canada, France, UK, Norway, Germany, Italy and so on are now recognizing the state of Palestine.

And by the way, like many of us I have native blood … my grand mother used to live in kanawake just saying. And I don’t feel at all ashamed about it and I am a very very proud Canadian citizen having served my country for 20 years in the Canadian armed forces.

unlike you, I do not base my identity on religion.

Are you a Canadian citizen or a Jewish guy living in Canada ?

 

[minutemenX]

Palestinian were also living there 2000 + years ago and they were not Muslim. It’s also their land and they have a right to it.

This is why Canada, France, UK, Norway, Germany, Italy and so on are now recognizing the state of Palestine.

And by the way, like many of us I have native blood … my grand mother used to live in kanawake just saying. And I don’t feel at all ashamed about it and I am a very very proud Canadian citizen having served my country for 20 years in the Canadian armed forces.

unlike you, I do not base my identity on religion.

Are you a Canadian citizen or a Jewish guy living in Canada ?

Why are you so obsessed only with the Jewish blood? Why Jews are so special in this regard? Every Canadian who is not native can trance his ancestry to some foreign country or ethnic group. Are Chinese Canadians more Chinese than Canadians? One can’t give an intelligent answer to a stupid question.

 

[EagerBeaver]

unlike you, I do not base my identity on religion.

Are you a Canadian citizen or a Jewish guy living in Canada ?

I am American and agnostic. Jewish only by ethnicity on my mother's side

 

[snakejack]

Why are you so obsessed only with the Jewish blood? Why Jews are so special in this regard? Every Canadian who is not native can trance his ancestry to some foreign country or ethnic group. Are Chinese Canadians more Chinese than Canadians? One can’t give an intelligent answer to a stupid question.

One more time, if Canada is going at war with Israel, do you stand with Canada ?

YES or No ?

 

[snakejack]

D

I am American and agnostic. Jewish only by ethnicity on my mother's side

Do you eat bacon ?

 

[wolfie7]

Why are you so obsessed only with the Jewish blood? Why Jews are so special in this regard? Every Canadian who is not native can trance his ancestry to some foreign country or ethnic group. Are Chinese Canadians more Chinese than Canadians? One can’t give an intelligent answer to a stupid question.

If you ask Chinese Americans that same question - if China and the US were to go to war, whose side are you on? The vast majority would have ZERO hesitation stating their clear allegiance to the US and against communist China. The rest of them can go fuck themselves.

Easy. The same would be true for the majority of American citizens who are immigrants from villainous states.

Regardless if identifying as Jewish is religious or ethnic or whatever, that clearcut prioritization of US first and foremost is clearly missing. Regardless of half, quarter, whatever fraction - Jews are Jews, raised on the notion that they’re the “chosen ones.” Lmao.

Like I said before, compromised, biased, blind. Jews lost all judgment when it comes to matters with Israel. Pretty damn disgusting.

 

[minutemenX]

If you ask Chinese Americans that same question - if China and the US were to go to war, whose side are you on? The vast majority would have ZERO hesitation stating their clear allegiance to the US and against communist China.

Oh boy, Chinese have it easy. What keeps me awake at night is that I have not decided yet whom I should betray first US or Canada when they go to war as I have dual citizenship I think it has somewhat higher probability than the future US-Israel war

 

[snakejack]

Oh boy, Chinese have it easy. What keeps me awake at night is that I have not decided yet whom I should betray first US or Canada when they go to war as I have dual citizenship I think it has somewhat higher probability than the future US-Israel war

One more time, if Canada is going at war with Israel, do you stand with Canada ?

 

[minutemenX]

One more time, if Canada is going at war with Israel, do you stand with Canada ?

I will tell you if you answer these questions: if the federal Canada is going at war with Quebec do you stand with Canada? Or similar simpler question. If you have two brothers and they fight each other how do you choose the right side?

 

[snakejack]

I will tell you if you answer these questions: if the federal Canada is going at war with Quebec do you stand with Canada? Or similar simpler question. If you have two brothers and they fight each other how do you choose the right side?

One more time:

One more time, if Canada is going at war with Israel, do you stand with Canada ?

YES or NO ????

 

[EagerBeaver]

D

Do you eat bacon ?

Of course! What kind of question is that? You seem to have a deluded perception of what is reality in the world around you.

 

[EagerBeaver]

One more time:

One more time, if Canada is going at war with Israel, do you stand with Canada ?

YES or NO ????

If your parents get into a ferocious argument, and they demand you chime in, whose side do you take?

If a Jew and a Palestinian, both strangers to you, are arguing and both fall off a dock into a lake, neither can swim and both start drowning with equal urgency, which one do you swim to and try and save first?

 

[snakejack]

If your parents get into a ferocious argument, and they demand you chime in, whose side do you take?

If a Jew and a Palestinian, both strangers to you, are arguing and both fall off a dock into a lake, neither can swim and both start drowning with equal urgency, which one do you swim to and try and save first?

Are you stranger in that conflict, no Jewish heritage / ancestry ?