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In Canada, Did a Comedian’s Joke Go Too Far?

GaryH

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I didn't see a thread on this anywhere and I think it is worth discussing. Mike Ward is a bilingual Montreal based comedian who pushes the boundaries of humor. He was sued over mocking the voice of a disabled teen aged singer and lost his case (while ordered to pay $35,000 in damages). Quebec residents are probably familiar with this case, but for others

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/20/...tory&variant=1_bandit-all-surfaces_daysback_4

From the article:
"Comedy has long reflected the cultural mores of a nation, sometimes exposing the fault lines in a society and testing the legal limits of acceptable speech. Canada and countries the world over, including the United States, have come under intensifying pressure to respect minority rights, spurring a debate of where to draw the line between harmful speech and freedom of expression.
In Canada, which prides itself on its humanism, Mr. Ward’s case has been particularly polarizing.
On the one side are civil libertarians and artists who argue that offensive jokes, however egregious, are protected under the Canadian constitution’s freedom of expression provision. The Supreme Court policing comedy, they say, risks having a chilling effect on artistic expression across Canada."

I am still on the side of freedom of speech, even if I don't like what is being said.

Here is an example of Mike Ward's act from the Montreal club Le Bordel. I find his bilingual take on being insulted for speaking French and insulted for speaking English particularly funny - "There are stupid intolerant pieces of garbage everywhere."

 

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I am a big fan of stand up comedy. Hell I watched all the Andrew "Dice" Clay stand ups. At the end of the day it's comedy and some people need to understand that and should know that we know they are jokes and it's meant to entertain. As mentioned by GaryH "I am still on the side of freedom of speech, even if I don't like what is being said.".
 

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I think his joke was completely distasteful and stupid and he should know better.
Having said that where do you draw the line, where does freedom of speech end.
For me let the fans boo him out of the venue if he makes jokes that are hurtful instead of funny and let him get a reputation of being an asshole and either he changes or starves.
I don’t think it should be up to judges to decide what a comedian should or should not have in his routine.
 

GaryH

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I think Fradi's take is spot on. I have always thought you should be "punching" up in comedy. Go after the sleazy politicians, the self-righteous actors, moralizing religious leaders, and the self -proclaimed media influencers. There is so much there rich for comedy. Leave children and the innocents out of it. Make fun of Trump all you want, but don't make pedophile jokes about his youngest son.

What's My Name - I had forgotten about Andrew Dice Clay. LOL. Not my type of humor but boy he would never make it in today's environment.
 

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I figure comedy is comedy, not to be taken seriously. Sam Kinison
would have a hard time in todays world and see that Jim Jeffries toned down his act somewhat ( he has had some audience members try to fight him on stage ). Jim Jefferies fights Heckler (w/ Rich Vos & Jim Norton) - Bing video
Sam was one of a kind. Totally non-PC and funny as hell.
I still remember driving home on a Friday and hearing the news of his tragic death. So sad.
Btw isn't this Ward story from years ago?
 
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