Independent versus Agency Extras
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Depends...
If its put in the add, then you know for sure, if its not... your only option is to ask...the good thing with an indy is you can contact her directly. If your too shy to ask or whatever, take for granted its NOT to avoid disapointements.
If its put in the add, then you know for sure, if its not... your only option is to ask...the good thing with an indy is you can contact her directly. If your too shy to ask or whatever, take for granted its NOT to avoid disapointements.
Well first of all, a review is never a sure value, we all know that. She can agree with somebody, not with another...
As for less review, what i picked up over the years is the indies have a very regular base of customer. Mostly because those customer can contact them directly, they can even reserve a spot each week if they want to. Agency girls tend to work unregulary, cancel there shift more too (unless its GG because i know Mike is strick on that lol) and also they see more different clients as people want to try out the "flavor of the month". When a client has seen an indy 12 times, he won't keep reviewing her..
It looks to me the client base itself is very different. Lots of guys either go only for indies(or mostly) or they use mostly agencies. Sometimes it can be a lot of factor that influence this, but in the end thats what i picked over the years in this hobby.
In any case, trust my word on that, don't be shy to politly ask if she provide CIM... or whatever else you may like. Im not saying mail/text her and start with "Hi, you do cim?" either lol, like everything there is a way to ask, present yourself first, explain what you would like to get from a session, anyway you know the drill. If you would only know what indies sometimes receive ... :crazy: a client with a serious extra inquiries is perfectly normal to them.
As for less review, what i picked up over the years is the indies have a very regular base of customer. Mostly because those customer can contact them directly, they can even reserve a spot each week if they want to. Agency girls tend to work unregulary, cancel there shift more too (unless its GG because i know Mike is strick on that lol) and also they see more different clients as people want to try out the "flavor of the month". When a client has seen an indy 12 times, he won't keep reviewing her..
It looks to me the client base itself is very different. Lots of guys either go only for indies(or mostly) or they use mostly agencies. Sometimes it can be a lot of factor that influence this, but in the end thats what i picked over the years in this hobby.
In any case, trust my word on that, don't be shy to politly ask if she provide CIM... or whatever else you may like. Im not saying mail/text her and start with "Hi, you do cim?" either lol, like everything there is a way to ask, present yourself first, explain what you would like to get from a session, anyway you know the drill. If you would only know what indies sometimes receive ... :crazy: a client with a serious extra inquiries is perfectly normal to them.
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Lily from Montreal
If I may chip in? As a rule extra is more of a agency girl concept,as agency girls are more into the hobby for a strictly money goal,so the more they can charge the better,hence the extra list...
Which I find distasteful,but of course I am a snob that totally assume herself lol
Indies also have a monetary element but not only that as incentive , so usually the fee for the session is not tributary to the ''actions'' involved...to put it bluntly: when we meet you can either talk to me for one hour or have numerous sex related experience: the fee is the same....I always joke that we will do as much or as little you feel like it...the rate is the same....
But HM advice is good,just ask?
Which I find distasteful,but of course I am a snob that totally assume herself lol
Indies also have a monetary element but not only that as incentive , so usually the fee for the session is not tributary to the ''actions'' involved...to put it bluntly: when we meet you can either talk to me for one hour or have numerous sex related experience: the fee is the same....I always joke that we will do as much or as little you feel like it...the rate is the same....
But HM advice is good,just ask?
Its nice to have your advice Lily, but i think every indy is different. Just browse the ads on merb and you will see plenty with a list of services listed, some stuff being extra... I know you see this "hobby" more as a hobby than a business. You mentioned many times you take pleasure in it, you see very limited number of clients and see them as "friends", not as walking wallets 
but it really depend from an indy to another. This business is so much more than meet the eyes sometimes...
On one side you have very hot "normal priced" indies with an open menu, and on the other side you have girls at 300, 350, hell sometimes 400$ by the hour with absolutely no mention of any services. And they get bookings just as much as the others !! lots of dude will book them just because they are pricier... they have a feeling of paying for more "quality" or i dunno... its a strange world...
But then again its like BAIT AND SWITCH, it still happen because a great lot of client keep the girl, despite having warnings all over the place it will probably end badly... if every client would turn them around, b&s would not exist anymore
but it really depend from an indy to another. This business is so much more than meet the eyes sometimes...On one side you have very hot "normal priced" indies with an open menu, and on the other side you have girls at 300, 350, hell sometimes 400$ by the hour with absolutely no mention of any services. And they get bookings just as much as the others !! lots of dude will book them just because they are pricier... they have a feeling of paying for more "quality" or i dunno... its a strange world...
But then again its like BAIT AND SWITCH, it still happen because a great lot of client keep the girl, despite having warnings all over the place it will probably end badly... if every client would turn them around, b&s would not exist anymore
Do not generalize, we never charged for it!
I noticed that many advertisers now cleaned their ads of sexual abbreviations, it is now harder to know clearly who will and who won't. As for the other agencies, I don't know how they proceed now but to keep the things safe for the client and the agency, it is not really possible to give this specific information by phone.
Well it took me 2 secs to figure out your new system... and i can still see wich girls are doing what i like... I think once a client does business a few time with an agency and undersand the system, its still alright. Personally i always gave my business to agencies listing services. I like something... and i want to know if its provided or not... Im not saying i won't book girls that does not do it, just this year i saw 2 that didn't... but i book them knowing they don't... and its because i really want to see them anyway...
But i think its important to keep that system... or at least have the booker mention it by phone or something... i dunno.... I would hate to see it disapear... I remember the first agencies to my knowledge that did it was Woman of Passion back then, they where by go to agency mostly, and Satin Dreamz(but they stoped eventually). I remember the first agency girl i booked ever was a girl with SD and the reason i chose her was because cim was included...(and she looked georgous lol)
Anyway, i think we should not get parano about that new law thing... MERB is hosted outside canada now, they can't prosecute us for simply inquired about acronyme.. for all they know CIM would be Calm Intimacy Moment... anyway... I don't wan to dare the devil but i have yet to see this law get applied and be dangerous for us... i doubt they will put our phones on wire and rush to us as soon as we book something to arrest us.
But i think its important to keep that system... or at least have the booker mention it by phone or something... i dunno.... I would hate to see it disapear... I remember the first agencies to my knowledge that did it was Woman of Passion back then, they where by go to agency mostly, and Satin Dreamz(but they stoped eventually). I remember the first agency girl i booked ever was a girl with SD and the reason i chose her was because cim was included...(and she looked georgous lol)
Anyway, i think we should not get parano about that new law thing... MERB is hosted outside canada now, they can't prosecute us for simply inquired about acronyme.. for all they know CIM would be Calm Intimacy Moment... anyway... I don't wan to dare the devil but i have yet to see this law get applied and be dangerous for us... i doubt they will put our phones on wire and rush to us as soon as we book something to arrest us.
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Lily from Montreal
Of course Wildtime, I apologize, it is not every agencies who has a "à-la-carte " policy...
I still find the concept a bit of a turn off, as if something is off limit ..until more money is afford...then it is ok...that assumption that the only factor is the money kind of causes me problem because me if I say no,it is not to get a bigger offer...i've had not-gentleman offers me more once I say no to some act and they get all mad when the answer is still no...not every thing in life is negotiable...
I still find the concept a bit of a turn off, as if something is off limit ..until more money is afford...then it is ok...that assumption that the only factor is the money kind of causes me problem because me if I say no,it is not to get a bigger offer...i've had not-gentleman offers me more once I say no to some act and they get all mad when the answer is still no...not every thing in life is negotiable...
Well if you know from the get go how the "menu" is... i don't see anything wrong with it... Its not she don't want to do it, its that its an extra... Its not like a customer offering something, get the NO answer, offer more and she then reluctancly decide to do it... Here there is no negociation or anything, its xx$ , you take it or you don't...
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