Is a Pat/Cupping The Derriere Part of the GFE?

[dbiz2]

You're out for a quick cocktail, maybe even dinner, with your SP. You're walking down the street next to each other, and notice the way the nice dress or pants are so elegantly falling over and highlight those gorgeous buttocks. Not being able to resist, you gentle pat or even cup your hand ever so gentle over those "sweet cheeks."
Is that wrong?

Gents and ladies I'd appreciate your comments.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

For me it would be a no, but I am old.

 

[westwoody]

You're walking down the street next to each other

Never embarrass someone in public.

 

[EagerBeaver]

In private it is fine, in public, NEVER do this. Unless you want people to look at you, laugh and giggle and say, "another Weinstein wannabe in waiting." You would also be surprised by the number of men and women who are very turned off by PDAs. The SA lady with whom I had the very best sex of my life, and whose ass I have grabbed and fondled in the privacy of my bedroom many times, told me early on that PDAs are forbidden. In the bedroom in private, she is a sexual tornado. Respect the privacy of your lady at all times when in public.

 

[rosedelacourt]

As an SP point of view, I would say that you should NEVER do this in public unless you have some sort of pre-understanding with the SP. If you are out to dinner or drinks or coffee, then you are likely paying some sort of “social rate” which means no touching. By doing so you would likely be doing something without her consent and it just makes things complicated then. Also you might be in a public space where some of her friends could see her with you and if you’re grabbing her butt or whatever it will be harder for her to explain who you are to her. So Unless she’s the one who’s touching you, i’d say keep a “friendly” distance.

 

[jalimon]

Ha Rose rose so full of common sense. That said, last time I met you you took your bike to the incall location with your little sexy dress on. So sorry but you are not entitled to give any advice here on the account that you are yourself an important public danger

Cheers,

 

[dbiz2]

If your 93 like Bush then maybe you can get away with it and people will laugh it off.

I thing you're sadly mistaken anybody is laughing off Bush 41's "grabby ass" behavior...

http://nypost.com/2017/10/27/third-woman-accuses-george-h-w-bush-of-grabbing-her-butt/

 

[hungry101]

I thing you're sadly mistaken anybody is laughing off Bush 41's "grabby ass" behavior...

http://nypost.com/2017/10/27/third-woman-accuses-george-h-w-bush-of-grabbing-her-butt/

I just read this. Oh dear! Will the poor girl survive? He said David Cop-a-feel and touched her butt? Oh my. Now Stalin used to send people out to be shot and off to the gulag to be worked to death (~35 MM) but he never did something as egregious like this. Then there was Hitler and the Jews (~6MM dead) and Mao (~50 MM Dead) and Poll Pot (~1 MM dead) but none of them ever touched a writers butt. This girl may never recover. She should get 40MM$ and a promotion to a job she is unqualified for.

I would of said "A writer eh? Do you wanna see my Longfellow?"

I just do not think it is worth all the whining.

 

[dbiz2]

I just read this. Oh dear! Will the poor girl survive? He said David Cop-a-feel and touched her butt? Oh my. Now Stalin used to send people out to be shot and off to the gulag to be worked to death (~35 MM) but he never did something as egregious like this. Then there was Hitler and the Jews (~6MM dead) and Mao (~50 MM Dead) and Poll Pot (~1 MM dead) but none of them ever touched a writers butt. This girl may never recover. She should get 40MM$ and a promotion to a job she is unqualified for.

"President Bush put his arm around me, low on my back. His comic timing was impeccable," Kline recalled, "'David Cop-a-feel,' he said, and squeezed my butt, hard just as the photographer snapped the photo. Instinctively, I swiped his hand away."

Doesn't sound like "a touch" to me.

Nor the gentle touch I'm referring to when I started this thread. More opinions are welcomed.

 

[dbiz2]

As an SP point of view, I would say that you should NEVER do this in public unless you have some sort of pre-understanding with the SP. If you are out to dinner or drinks or coffee, then you are likely paying some sort of “social rate” which means no touching.

Ah but what if you have a "package," i.e., lunch or dinner with private time included?

 

[dbiz2]

In private it is fine, in public, NEVER do this. Unless you want people to look at you, laugh and giggle and say, "another Weinstein wannabe in waiting."

I doubt its seen as a Weinstein wannabe...I don't work in the movie business, or any business for that matter, where I use my status to promise fame and fortune, nor allegedly "blackball" people that don't give in to my demands, nor have I ever been accused of rape...

 

[rollingstone]

I definitely do not think this is as unacceptable as other people have said, but it depends on the chemistry between you and her. I have never done the 'social rate' thing but have had plenty of dinner dates and travel engagements (and is pretty much 99% of what I do now). Some SPs would not keep their hands off me in public and that included touching my inner thigh or crotch all throughout dinner. She did not mind it at all when I cupped her ass in the elevator back to my room and it was a natural escalation of actions throughout the evening. Consent is everything.

 

[dbiz2]

I definitely do not think this is as unacceptable as other people have said, but it depends on the chemistry between you and her...Consent is everything.

That pretty much sums up my attitude. While not wanting to start a "pissing match," what is incredulous to me are some of the "white knight" statements to this simple thread. While I'm not accusing, nor implying anything to anyone responding on this thread, some posters on this site when replying to threads or other statements similar as mine, have been some of the most callous and down right disrespectful of SPs when making their feelings known.

There is always more than one opinion on any topic. And I've never been called "an expert" in this area. But I certainly agreed with the two comments in your reply: chemistry and consent.

Question though: would you have subtle and cupped her ass (NOT grabbing) walking down the street?

 

[rollingstone]

Question though: would you have subtle and cupped her ass (NOT grabbing) walking down the street?

Assuming there was chemistry and consent, and I was in the mood to do so? Absolutely. As a matter of fact I actively seek SPs that will gently pull me out of my comfort zone, so while I would have never done this 10 years ago I have no issues doing it now. Heck 10 years ago I used to feel nervous have dinner with a full bossomed woman with her cleavage on full display.

 

[ravenazrael]

I think it would not be right to do it in public. I would not do that in public to a SP or even my GF. Maybe I am weird but why would I do that in public? If it is something that happens and it is not that there is an audience I would do it to my GF and I would do it to the SP only if the level of chemistry and "friendship" allows it.

 

[clark_larson]

I think it's vulgar even for couples. I never even kissed a girlfriend in public except when I was drunk.
The key really is to discuss your expectations before going out.

 

[cloudsurf]

Cummon Larson are you back in the middle-ages ?
Nothing wrong in kissing in public especially in Montreal.

Hell I fucked in public in Franco`s Spain where I risked being thrown in jail for a long time.

When it comes to showing affection or lust in public I have no fantasies left....maybe one of the Unicorn girls can show me something new.

 

[heliragedeleted]

THIS IS THE RULE: If the women you're with, in public, grab's your ass or cups your balls, then smile and say thank you. But it does not give you the right to touch her!

 

[cloudsurf]

Isn`t that the truth.
There is too much damn hypocrisy on social media these days

 

[rosedelacourt]

Ah but what if you have a "package," i.e., lunch or dinner with private time included?

Then you should keep the touching for private time social rate (100$/h) is usually just “friendly” type of date. No touching whatsoever.