juvenile prostitution ring has been dismantled

[naughtylady]

EagerBeaver>> Of course they are runaways... the point I was getting at is that if more money was funneled into social support systems for youth, less would end up in this predicament.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[Lawless]

More money in the system......is that the solution??? I wonder!!
Where will it come from?..Let me guess!!!!!

 

[steak]

Tqs

I just saw a report on TQS about escorst agencies. They contacted a few agencies and I think I recognized one voice but will not take the chance at naming names. They were talking about all the web sites and agencies. We mostly saw pictures taken from I-N. And it seems they were using old shooting because we saw Megan and Marianne (among others). They seem ti think every agencies are using minors....

 

[EagerBeaver]

I have met both Megan and Marianne and I can GUARANTEE you they were not minors when I saw them.......any suggestion to the contrary is simply wicked lies and bullshit.

 

[steak]

Clarification

I have met both Megan and Marianne and I can GUARANTEE you they were not minors when I saw them.......any suggestion to the contrary is simply wicked lies and bullshit.

I know they are. But it seems the reporter did not. They were saying some are legals, some are not. But they showed the pics because they were talking about escorts in general.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Steak,

Maxine should sue that reporter for defamation because it is an outrageous lie!

 

[Techman]

More money

I agree that more money would be a help but the problem is that most of the money would just get lost in the bureaucracy. I think the entire system has to be overhauled.

 

[steak]

Steak,

Maxine should sue that reporter for defamation because it is an outrageous lie!

Totally agree, and it was the only web site they showed. They seem to be putting every agencies in the same bag. And to correct my earlier post, it might not have been old footage because I notice (I am stupid) that it was still possible to see the pics of Megan and Marianne through I-N web site.

 

[Lawless]

Launch legal proceedings against the reporter...you will have the best lawyers in town representing the reporter....examining on discovery the owner...as an operator.....and possibly the sp...quite interresting....I am eager to attend the hearing....

 

[EagerBeaver]

I am not sure which Court you are talking about. Here, we have something called statutory rape. Which means if she ain't 18, what you did or did not do to determine her age is irrelevant. There are only 2 questions: (1) Is she under 18 and (2) Did you fuck her. If the answer to both is yes, you are guilty. I would be surprised if the law is not the same in Canada.

 

[jons242]

Interesting topic. I took a look at the Canadian Dept. of Justice website under "SEXUAL OFFENCES, PUBLIC MORALS AND DISORDERLY CONDUCT"

"Mistake of age
(4) It is not a defence to a charge under section 151 or 152, subsection 160(3) or 173(2), or section 271, 272 or 273 that the accused believed that the complainant was fourteen years of age or more at the time the offence is alleged to have been committed unless the accused took all reasonable steps to ascertain the age of the complainant."

Now I'm not a lawyer but from what I undersatnd from reading this, if the girl looks 18 and she shows you ID that say's she is 18 I think that is reasonable steps in determining her age. I don't see what else you can do. Here is the link if anyone here wants to take a closer look.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/c-46/42339.html.

 

[daydreamer41]

Interesting topic. I took a look at the Canadian Dept. of Justice website under "SEXUAL OFFENCES, PUBLIC MORALS AND DISORDERLY CONDUCT"

"Mistake of age
(4) It is not a defence to a charge under section 151 or 152, subsection 160(3) or 173(2), or section 271, 272 or 273 that the accused believed that the complainant was fourteen years of age or more at the time the offence is alleged to have been committed unless the accused took all reasonable steps to ascertain the age of the complainant."

Now I'm not a lawyer but from what I undersatnd from reading this, if the girl looks 18 and she shows you ID that say's she is 18 I think that is reasonable steps in determining her age. I don't see what else you can do. Here is the link if anyone here wants to take a closer look.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/c-46/42339.html.

That sounds like a loophole. I am not a lawyer. But really, would you want to be messing around with a 12-year-old? Girls that age should be in bed sleeping at their parents home at 9 PM and doing their homework earlier that evening.

Plus, according to the Canadian statue quoted, it looks like the legal age is 14, unless there is text supporting that to say otherwise.

 

[miko]

jons242

Showing one fake id is unfortunately not enough.

There is no national i.d. card in canada.
So taking all reasonable steps in verifying age of a future sp (when age is in doubt) would include:

1) asking for driver's license (picture and date of birth)
2) asking for ''La carte Soleil'' where age and picture show.
3) asking for ''University registration'' where date of birth appears.
4) asking for valid Canadian passport.
5)asking for a costco card (picture included)
6)asking for social security card (to compare with income tax report)
7) asking for last year income tax report (Quebec or Ottawa) would show
date of birth and social secutity.

These 7 steps could be enough for an agency owner, to make sure he took ''all reasonable steps'' in verifying if the girl is underaged or not.
I am sure, the list can go on and on.
Underaged escorting, where violence and constraint is present, will get
the ''pimps'' directly to jail.

Miko

 

[miko]

Eb

In Canada, the law is different.

The age of consent is 14.

In Quebec, the civil code allouds a 12 year old girl to have sex with a boy which is not more than 3 years older than her. The parents, have nothing to say about it, as long of course, there is no violence (physical or emotional) involved.

A 16 year old young woman, can freely have a sexual relation with a 35 + year old man, as long as he is not in a position of ''authority'' (teacher, policeman, priest etc).

All this do not apply to escorting.
Girls have to be 18. And the responsability to verify that is to the customer
as much as the agency owner.

Statutory rape, as far as i know, doesnt exist in Canada.
The police tried, some years ago to accuse a woman basketball teacher of raping her male players.
She was giving ''sexual seances'' to the best player of a game in order to motivate them to win.
Players were 14 to 17 years old.
Not one of the players, effectively went on record to lodge a criminal complaint.
Wonder why?

Miko

 

[jons242]

Showing one fake id is unfortunately not enough.

There is no national i.d. card in canada.
So taking all reasonable steps in verifying age of a future sp (when age is in doubt) would include:

1) asking for driver's license (picture and date of birth)
2) asking for ''La carte Soleil'' where age and picture show.
3) asking for ''University registration'' where date of birth appears.
4) asking for valid Canadian passport.
5)asking for a costco card (picture included)
6)asking for social security card (to compare with income tax report)
7) asking for last year income tax report (Quebec or Ottawa) would show
date of birth and social secutity.

These 7 steps could be enough for an agency owner, to make sure he took ''all reasonable steps'' in verifying if the girl is underaged or not.
I am sure, the list can go on and on.
Underaged escorting, where violence and constraint is present, will get
the ''pimps'' directly to jail.

Miko

Well I think the 7 steps is a bit overkill, the post office only asks for two pieces of id for you to pick up a package. I think it's a grey area as to what consitute as "reasonable steps" to determining the age of a sp. But this doesn't have to apply to just sp's you could meet a girl in a bar and she may lie about her age or show you fake ID. I would agree with daydreamer41 that this is a loop hole in the law. I could see a lawyer getting someone off by agruing that her showing ID showing she was 18 was enough.