Massage parlour presentation abuse

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

At a salon I was working for, we weren't allowed to say anything but our name and smile

Thats crazy! I had all kinds of introductions. I had 10 minutes chat once with a girl in a presentation. I had DFK, some girls groping me, some walking in, shake hands and leave without saying a word! And this other one, kisses me, goes down, gives me a stiffer with her mouth, comes back up, a little peck and turns around!

 

[urquell]

I understand why a girl working in a salon would find presentations tedious, and there's no question that there's a lot of time wasting guys out there, but it's also a great opportunity to sell yourself to the clients, and most of the best providers I know don't waste the opportunity.

As a guy going to MPs I think you're nuts if you don't get a presentation, unless you're returning to see a regular. Even so, places that I frequented more regularly would often ask me if I wanted a presentation to meet new girls every time I went, because as an established customer they know I won't waste their time in general and it's great KYC to help target their recommendations and solidify their hold on you as a customer. Still, most places aren't this customer centric, and we all know that. This is especially true in the asian places. There isn't one of us who hasn't been told "5 girls available" and when you show up 10 minutes later they're all "busy", except for the woman who answered you on the phone. In a 3 room salon. The ones who use A123 or Lespac or LL or whatever and use fake photos. Fake website photos. etc etc. "I have a 2pm with Coco." "Coco no here" . "I made the appointment1/2 hour ago" "kiki here. Kiki very good. You try Kiki". A lot of these places simply want you to walk in, pay the room fee, and they will send whoever is next in the rotation to come and see you. They know many guys won't kick up a fuss or insist on seeing the girls and will simply accept whatever comes their way. Nobody should be that guy. You shouldn't fork over anything until you know what you're forking over for, and are happy with it. Walk if you're not. You have absolutely zero obligation to session somewhere simply because you walked in the door and they're willing to take your cash.

I got a great piece of advice early on in my mongering career. One of the guys told me not to pick the girl, but to let the girl pick you. In a presentation you won't just see what the girl looks like, but you'll also see how she reacts to you, whether she seems interested and lively or simply bored and disinterested. Does she make eye contact with you? Does she smile? Does she seem good humoured? Does she seem friendly or have a friendly greeting? Funny? Does she seem interested in you? A fantastic looking girl who looks at you like you're a tax return or a pumpkin probably isn't going to make for a good session for you. The presentation is a great opportunity for you to see new girls and to see who reacts to you in a more positive way. Those girls are very likely going to be the ones you enjoy being with the most. If you don't have a presentation then you miss the opportunity to get all this great information.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Thats crazy! I had all kinds of introductions. I had 10 minutes chat once with a girl in a presentation. I had DFK, some girls groping me, some walking in, shake hands and leave without saying a word! And this other one, kisses me, goes down, gives me a stiffer with her mouth, comes back up, a little peck and turns around!

It depends on the parlour and how everyone feels.. but the one I was working at the longest.. we weren't allowed to do stuff like this lol.. we weren't allowed to wear sheer things too. A girl got told she had to change because her breasts were showing under her fishnet top. Parlors are super competitive.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I got a great piece of advice early on in my mongering career. One of the guys told me not to pick the girl, but to let the girl pick you. In a presentation you won't just see what the girl looks like, but you'll also see how she reacts to you, whether she seems interested and lively or simply bored and disinterested. Does she make eye contact with you? Does she smile? Does she seem good humoured? Does she seem friendly or have a friendly greeting? Funny? Does she seem interested in you? A fantastic looking girl who looks at you like you're a tax return or a pumpkin probably isn't going to make for a good session for you. The presentation is a great opportunity for you to see new girls and to see who reacts to you in a more positive way. Those girls are very likely going to be the ones you enjoy being with the most. If you don't have a presentation then you miss the opportunity to get all this great information.

This is an issue I had because I'm really shy and I need to feel comfortable. I am friendly and warm and fun to be around, but I am an introvert. It can be pretty hard to do presentations lol. But honestly, most of my clients are also introverts or guys who like weird girls like me

 

[2fast2slow]

I've had like probably 100 presentations over the last 10 years, probabably more (that's only like 10/year). 98% were a friendly and quick 'hello' with a smile. That's all I ask, and that's the way it should be. If they try too hard, it just becomes more uncomfortable. I understand it is not an ego booster if you dont get chosen, but how are we supposed to feel when we need to 'pay for it' lol.

Guys are very 'visual' and some style of girls will always get chosen in a presentation at a higher rate. But if they don't deliver once in the encounter, they don't get repeats. While others who may not often get chosen at first glance who do deliver a 'warm' experience will build up a clientele.

 

[Harvey]

Presentations can be humiliating for older ladies. Sometimes they are passed over 5 times and see the younger ones picked almost every time. They only get clients when everyone else is busy.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Presentations can be humiliating for older ladies. Sometimes they are passed over 5 times and see the younger ones picked almost every time. They only get clients when everyone else is busy.

you'd be surprised. at a MP i worked at, some of the ladies branded as milfs were really popular. it's not necessarily the younger ones that get picked faster, it's often the newer ones.

 

[TheBlob]

When i started going to MP 15 years ago i often asked for presentation, but not anymore. I never walked out though. Now i just aim for a little surprise or mostly go with my regular.

I remember a time when an average girl teased me a lot during a presentation, great kiss and all, but i ended choosing an almost model-looking one with big natural boobs. In the end It was one of the worst service i ever had and i regretted not going with the teaser.

 

[Zero_Six]

I wish I knew this stuff for that one time I went to a MP. I had no idea about the presentation thing. They guy brought the women in one at a time then asked me to choose. I picked the last woman because her name was the only one I remembered. I was very nervous and a little bit drunk. Good experience overall though.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

I cannot imagine choosing someone by a presentation. I am a research nerd and very selective (not curvey, not Ds, no big butts) and look for personality and sensuality, I do a spreadsheet of potentials before trips so I can quickly know based on the website who is available - and compare to my picks from my detailed research.

The presentation is how they do it at the brothels of Nevada and can only give their name so strictly by looks.

I like the Thailand comparison given, and I have experienced that one can sit down and chat and buy reasonably priced drinks before selecting and paying a "bar fine" for short—or long-term use.

 

[djlucky7]

i ask a presentation when i havent been to the parlor in forever and there's an abundance of newer girls. + some parlors are known for either using fake pictures or go heavy on photoshops. It's part of the business and i see nothing wrong with it. In fact, i have already chosen girls i usually wont go for because they seemed eager during the presentation.

 

[urquell]

I cannot imagine choosing someone by a presentation. I am a research nerd and very selective (not curvey, not Ds, no big butts) and look for personality and sensuality, I do a spreadsheet of potentials before trips so I can quickly know based on the website who is available - and compare to my picks from my detailed research.

The presentation is how they do it at the brothels of Nevada and can only give their name so strictly by looks.

I like the Thailand comparison given, and I have experienced that one can sit down and chat and buy reasonably priced drinks before selecting and paying a "bar fine" for short—or long-term use.

It's not an apt comparison because the presentation style in Thailand is the "fishbowl" concept and you're usually not interacting with the girls in MPs. What's being referred to are the go-gos and the beer bars, where you can sit down and actually chat with the girls, have drinks, socialize etc etc. Apples and oranges. No amount of online research will prepare you for your IRL reaction to the girl and her to you. Also, most MPs don't have websites. Again, not to be confused with agencies. Apples and oranges again.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

It's not an apt comparison because the presentation style in Thailand is the "fishbowl" concept

True, I only once, as I recall, went to a fishbowl. I enjoyed bar girls in Thailand, the Philippines, Pattaya, etc., where we could meet. I don't drink, so I had lots of Diet Coke, just like I get at strip clubs if I have to order a drink.

Yes, it is apples and oranges compared to the fishbowl of most massage places in Thailand etc.

 

[T'storm]

I visited a massage parlour in Ottawa that I had seen while driving, all I was looking for was a body rub and maybe if available a rub and tug. This was many years ago and the receptionist showed me the face pics of all the girls available and I was allowed to pick 3 for a presentation. I got in the room and shortly after girl #1 walked in and she was pretty and very tempting, in come #2 and she was tall and slim just like the way i like them, finally #3 walks in and she was also very hot. After the last lady left I had to decide who I wanted so I picked the #2, paid the receptionist the fee(around $150) and about 5-10 minutes later she walks back in and she takes a shower with me...I appreciate that and then I lay on the table and she starts the massage, she had a great touch and knew just where to rub like a professional, it felt awesome. She asks me to turn around and in my head I figure its the rub and tug that I wanted...she did start with that but quickly turned to a BBBJ which felt good BTW and she whispers that she wants more and ask if I want more...hell yeah I want more. So she climbs on top of me and grinds her pussy lips on my hard shaft (no penetration) and then she says for a little more she is willing to go all the way and with protection of course.
By this time the little guys head took over and agreed to the whole thing. Don't get me wrong it was really good and we both had a great finish, she squirted and blew a big load and we both jumped in the shower to clean ourselves off. While we are getting dressed she says that will be $250 extra. Well I'm not one to argue much but I paid her and shut my mouth...never went back there after.
This experience cost me $400 for what I thought would have been a long hard massage and maybe a rub and tug. Yes I did get more but could have gotten that for the simple $250 back in the days

 

[urquell]

True, I only once, as I recall, went to a fishbowl. I enjoyed bar girls in Thailand, the Philippines, Pattaya, etc., where we could meet. I don't drink, so I had lots of Diet Coke, just like I get at strip clubs if I have to order a drink.

Yes, it is apples and oranges compared to the fishbowl of most massage places in Thailand etc.

You owe it to yourself the next time you're in Pattaya to do the fishbowl thing at a soapy. They do soapies better there than anywhere else and it's a neat experience. You get to pick your girl of course, but there's probably a hundred of them. Pick the place known for the best training of their soapy girls and then (pro tip) tell mamasan that everyone says she has great taste and let her pick a girl for you. Mamasans get really puffed when someone doesn't ignore them and recognizes their true worth *cough* and they will almost invariably point you to the best girls because now their perceived reputation is on the line. They'll always remember you next time too.

I visited a massage parlour in Ottawa that I had seen while driving, all I was looking for was a body rub and maybe if available a rub and tug. This was many years ago and the receptionist showed me the face pics of all the girls available and I was allowed to pick 3 for a presentation. I got in the room and shortly after girl #1 walked in and she was pretty and very tempting, in come #2 and she was tall and slim just like the way i like them, finally #3 walks in and she was also very hot. After the last lady left I had to decide who I wanted so I picked the #2, paid the receptionist the fee(around $150) and about 5-10 minutes later she walks back in and she takes a shower with me...I appreciate that and then I lay on the table and she starts the massage, she had a great touch and knew just where to rub like a professional, it felt awesome. She asks me to turn around and in my head I figure its the rub and tug that I wanted...she did start with that but quickly turned to a BBBJ which felt good BTW and she whispers that she wants more and ask if I want more...hell yeah I want more. So she climbs on top of me and grinds her pussy lips on my hard shaft (no penetration) and then she says for a little more she is willing to go all the way and with protection of course.
By this time the little guys head took over and agreed to the whole thing. Don't get me wrong it was really good and we both had a great finish, she squirted and blew a big load and we both jumped in the shower to clean ourselves off. While we are getting dressed she says that will be $250 extra. Well I'm not one to argue much but I paid her and shut my mouth...never went back there after.
This experience cost me $400 for what I thought would have been a long hard massage and maybe a rub and tug. Yes I did get more but could have gotten that for the simple $250 back in the days

I bet every single one of us has a story like that. I know I do. They're expensive lessons but you never forget them and most of us learn from them. Always clear up the business up front, which of course now you know. LOL. My first and only mistake like that cost me about $200 too, and I was so inexperienced I was afraid to make an issue of it. I had visions of gangs of sweaty thugs pounding on me if I refused. Fortunately I know how the world works a bit better now.You have my sympathies. Solidarity brother.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

You owe it to yourself the next time you're in Pattaya to do the fishbowl thing at a soapy. They do soapies better there than anywhere else and it's a neat experience. You get to pick your girl of course, but there's probably a hundred of them. Pick the place known for the best training of their soapy girls and then (pro tip) tell mamasan that everyone says she has great taste and let her pick a girl for you. Mamasans get really puffed when someone doesn't ignore them and recognizes their true worth *cough* and they will almost invariably point you to the best girls because now their perceived reputation is on the line. They'll always remember you next time too.

Yes, the one fishbowl I recall was a soapy, and it was far better than most body slides in Canada. I probably won't return to Asia as I prefer the European, taller, slimmer body type. I am considering an adventure to Australia (states where legal which are most); I don't like the long flight from Phoenix. 3.5 hours is long enough to go to Toronto/Montreal. I did make it to Germany with a stop in London but I get bored on long flights, I bring reading materials, but unless in business or first, I am too tall to get comfortable in coach. Fortunately, I have no health issues, but at age 78, I should make these trips before I get TOO old and have physical problems

 

[urquell]

Yes, the one fishbowl I recall was a soapy, and it was far better than most body slides in Canada. I probably won't return to Asia as I prefer the European, taller, slimmer body type. I am considering an adventure to Australia (states where legal which are most); I don't like the long flight from Phoenix. 3.5 hours is long enough to go to Toronto/Montreal. I did make it to Germany with a stop in London but I get bored on long flights, I bring reading materials, but unless in business or first, I am too tall to get comfortable in coach. Fortunately, I have no health issues, but at age 78, I should make these trips before I get TOO old and have physical problems

If you're willing to go to Australia then you might want to consider a trip/stopover in Jakkarta and/or Bali. The MPs in Jakkarta are truly spectacular and you'll definitely appreciate the presentations there! lol.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

If you're willing to go to Australia then you might want to consider a trip/stopover in Jakkarta and/or Bali. The MPs in Jakkarta are truly spectacular and you'll definitely appreciate the presentations there! lol.

I am terrible with non-English accents, and at least I can understand Australian English. Better than an Englishman at London airport with a North England accent. On the same layover to Germany I also sat next to a native German gal who was returning after visiting her London boyfriend. Her English was far easier to understand than the Englishman's.

I talk to a lot of "hams" in Australia and New Zealand via radio (Amateur Radio "ham" since 1964 and once talked to the group at the Mississauga radio club.... It reminded me I should look at Montreal's club's activities for a trip there.)

I understand Jakkarta may be better for English than Bali but primarily just those that cater to tourists. I know they are beautiful countries, however.

In Montreal in my spreadsheets I specifically look for English vs French although have a hard time with French accents... one of the reasons it has been so long since I have been back to Montreal, but understand its not much of an issue with most of the Agency gals, most massage etc. I like that some agencies list their language skills.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I cannot imagine choosing someone by a presentation. I am a research nerd and very selective

I am like you in general. I carefully choose and plan every bookings unless there is something out of my control (cancellations). But a presentation at a massage parlor seem so interesting. I remember the GTs and one of my favorite aspect was being able to see the SPs in person (including face). I would always make a "list of potential meets" after one and usually would go trough that list first before seeing anyone i had not met in person. Of course look was not the only factor as we could talk a while with them.

There is some massage parlors like "Le Penthouse" where the pictures all look so gorgeous and model-like, but im sure its just heavy photoshop and they don't all look near that great in person. The pictures look too modified. So even with a "pre-list" selected, a line up would be great.

If one day i go to MP ill make sure to get one lol. But i never been and not sure will ever be as i don't like uncertainity of services and i heard sometimes a bill can rack up fast there.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

But i never been and not sure will ever be as i don't like uncertainity of services and i heard sometimes a bill can rack up fast there.

All good points. I like to find reviews before selecting also. Another problem I am not used to is massage palaces not posting their total inclusive rates often just the room fee. I am used to Toronto, where full inclusive rates are posted. Must be some legal issue in Montreal. In most of Toronto, it assumes regular massage services, which include, you know what, but not other "extras" that most will not offer. Or body slides, which is more my interest and includes reverse... just listed with inclusive rates, at least where I go in Toronto/Mississauga.