Alright, I am back after a great dinner with my favorite lady - my wife. A nice bottle of red wine always helps me clear my thoughts.
I contacted SL several times this week and I decided if there will be one hobbyiest that I will meet, it will be him. Why? Because he is extremely straightforward and has nothing to gain by bullshitting me or any other member on the board. We spoke over the phone but my work schedule is hectic so today after posting on Merb I decided to give him a call in the late afternoon.
We met at a coffee shop and we started talking about the hobby. SL looks fifteen to ten years younger than I pictured him - it must be true that lots of sex keeps a man young and virile!
I wish I had a microphone or a note pad to take down the more important points. He can speak at 100 miles per hour and I found it refreshing to soak it all up. He is definetely very street smart and did not hide the fact that he is a born cynic. More on that later.
We did not get into personal issues. Actually, I did divulge something personal to him but he already knew it, which confirmed my suspiscions that some people cannot keep their mouths shut. It amazes me how people love to gossip. Who gives a crap about my personal issues? If an SP ever divulged something very personal to me about another client, I would blast her. It is none of my business what someone told you in a private session, especially if it is personal. Also, it is none of any other client's business what an SP told me in private.
Anyways, the conversation took many turns but the major topic was on how some hobbyiests fail to recognize that this hobby is pure fantasy. SL strongly abhors the pretentiousness of some hobbyiests that feel they are more special than others. "The brutal truth is that we are all 'Johns'; we are all equal." "Once you cross that line you cannot share something special with an SP because you are paying to be with her." It makes me sick when I read people posting stuff like "I am special to her"...."They are delusional." "Again, once you cross the line and pay for sex, they never see you as anything but a client." "They will never share their personal lives with you - NEVER." "You might think you're special but you really aren't."
Now, as he spoke I was trying to pretend that it didn't bother me but the truth is that it did. It is like he was ripping my romantic world apart and I couldn't really do anything about it. I kept looking in his eyes to see if they are shifting and trying to study his body language for signs of a lying scumbag. But the truth is that he was extremely convincing. Maybe he is a master bullshitter - or at least that was what I wanted to believe - but he wasn't. SL has spent countless hours with these ladies when they are not working. He has seen their true colors so he knows what they're really thinking.
I was so engaged in the conversation that at one point, I waited until the last possible second before I thought my bladder was going to explode. I got back to the seat and we both noticed this hot brunette sitting behind us. "Now you see her - I would pay to fuck her", as she was coming towards us to leave (I am sure she heard him). She smiled as he helped her with some napkin that was falling off her tray. I was thinking this guy is so smooth - he'll eat Trump for breakfast.
At one point, I told him that many people think he is extremely arrogant. I said "You and Olie are so cynical and you generalize way too much" "It simply isn't true that some people cannot share a special connection with an SP." I added forcefully:"Nobody in this hobby has a monopoly on wisdom - not you, not Celine, not me, nobody" "I personally know of SPs that married their clients. Not many but I know it can happen"
He finally conceded somewhat: "Alright, maybe there is a 1% that does develop a special connection but 99% of the time they are playing you so why even mention that 1%." "Don't kid yourself, there are so many gullible guys out there that really think they are special." "It simply isn't true." "At the end of the day, nobody is more special than the other guy" "You see those guys working behind that counter, they can save up $160 or $180 dollars and visit the same SP you did....what makes you so special?"
True but the fact is that not all of us are made the same. Some of us, including SL, have an affinity to make women comfortable to talk with us. In other words, just because you can afford to see the same SP that I did, it doesn't guarantee you that you'll enjoy the same experience that I did on all levels. Some guys are easier to talk to; some guys have bigger pricks; some guys are better lovers; etc. But SL's point is that no matter what, once you cross the line and pay for sex, you can never go back. You'll always be a 'John', nothing more than a client and not someone special.
We were talking for three hours. Time flew by so fast because I was enjoying the conversation. My wife called me twice so I needed to wrap it up.
As we departed, I asked him: "If it is all pure fantasy and we are nothing but 'Johns', why bother doing it?" He replied: "Because we need the warmth of a woman...we need a woman's perspective on things."
Very well put.
SL, thanks for meeting this young idealistic general and injecting a healthy dose of realism in me. Maybe we can become friends in the long run. But even if we remain acquaintances, at least we know that we will tell each other exactly what is on our minds. We both share some common characteristics: we do not tolerate bullshit and more importantly we care for the well-being of the ladies that work in this hobby.
GG
P.S. We both agreed that numerical ratings are worthless. As he aptly remarked: "You can have an SP that is no better than a 3 but if she blows him well, all of a sudden she becomes a 5!"
I contacted SL several times this week and I decided if there will be one hobbyiest that I will meet, it will be him. Why? Because he is extremely straightforward and has nothing to gain by bullshitting me or any other member on the board. We spoke over the phone but my work schedule is hectic so today after posting on Merb I decided to give him a call in the late afternoon.
We met at a coffee shop and we started talking about the hobby. SL looks fifteen to ten years younger than I pictured him - it must be true that lots of sex keeps a man young and virile!
I wish I had a microphone or a note pad to take down the more important points. He can speak at 100 miles per hour and I found it refreshing to soak it all up. He is definetely very street smart and did not hide the fact that he is a born cynic. More on that later.We did not get into personal issues. Actually, I did divulge something personal to him but he already knew it, which confirmed my suspiscions that some people cannot keep their mouths shut.
It amazes me how people love to gossip. Who gives a crap about my personal issues? If an SP ever divulged something very personal to me about another client, I would blast her. It is none of my business what someone told you in a private session, especially if it is personal. Also, it is none of any other client's business what an SP told me in private.Anyways, the conversation took many turns but the major topic was on how some hobbyiests fail to recognize that this hobby is pure fantasy. SL strongly abhors the pretentiousness of some hobbyiests that feel they are more special than others. "The brutal truth is that we are all 'Johns'; we are all equal." "Once you cross that line you cannot share something special with an SP because you are paying to be with her." It makes me sick when I read people posting stuff like "I am special to her"...."They are delusional." "Again, once you cross the line and pay for sex, they never see you as anything but a client." "They will never share their personal lives with you - NEVER." "You might think you're special but you really aren't."
Now, as he spoke I was trying to pretend that it didn't bother me but the truth is that it did. It is like he was ripping my romantic world apart and I couldn't really do anything about it. I kept looking in his eyes to see if they are shifting and trying to study his body language for signs of a lying scumbag. But the truth is that he was extremely convincing. Maybe he is a master bullshitter - or at least that was what I wanted to believe - but he wasn't. SL has spent countless hours with these ladies when they are not working. He has seen their true colors so he knows what they're really thinking.
I was so engaged in the conversation that at one point, I waited until the last possible second before I thought my bladder was going to explode. I got back to the seat and we both noticed this hot brunette sitting behind us. "Now you see her - I would pay to fuck her", as she was coming towards us to leave (I am sure she heard him). She smiled as he helped her with some napkin that was falling off her tray. I was thinking this guy is so smooth - he'll eat Trump for breakfast.
At one point, I told him that many people think he is extremely arrogant. I said "You and Olie are so cynical and you generalize way too much" "It simply isn't true that some people cannot share a special connection with an SP." I added forcefully:"Nobody in this hobby has a monopoly on wisdom - not you, not Celine, not me, nobody" "I personally know of SPs that married their clients. Not many but I know it can happen"
He finally conceded somewhat: "Alright, maybe there is a 1% that does develop a special connection but 99% of the time they are playing you so why even mention that 1%." "Don't kid yourself, there are so many gullible guys out there that really think they are special." "It simply isn't true." "At the end of the day, nobody is more special than the other guy" "You see those guys working behind that counter, they can save up $160 or $180 dollars and visit the same SP you did....what makes you so special?"
True but the fact is that not all of us are made the same. Some of us, including SL, have an affinity to make women comfortable to talk with us. In other words, just because you can afford to see the same SP that I did, it doesn't guarantee you that you'll enjoy the same experience that I did on all levels. Some guys are easier to talk to; some guys have bigger pricks; some guys are better lovers; etc. But SL's point is that no matter what, once you cross the line and pay for sex, you can never go back. You'll always be a 'John', nothing more than a client and not someone special.
We were talking for three hours. Time flew by so fast because I was enjoying the conversation. My wife called me twice so I needed to wrap it up.
As we departed, I asked him: "If it is all pure fantasy and we are nothing but 'Johns', why bother doing it?" He replied: "Because we need the warmth of a woman...we need a woman's perspective on things."
Very well put.
SL, thanks for meeting this young idealistic general and injecting a healthy dose of realism in me. Maybe we can become friends in the long run. But even if we remain acquaintances, at least we know that we will tell each other exactly what is on our minds. We both share some common characteristics: we do not tolerate bullshit and more importantly we care for the well-being of the ladies that work in this hobby.
GG
P.S. We both agreed that numerical ratings are worthless. As he aptly remarked: "You can have an SP that is no better than a 3 but if she blows him well, all of a sudden she becomes a 5!"
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