Most taboo fantasy

[LC18]

Like Alisha said, swinger clubs are the cheaper alternative but it’s not really an orgy. There’s almost always a common room though, so if you ask for permission you can join other people, watch and be watched.

If you want, you can even go with an SP you know or don’t know.

 

[t00frustrated]

Very late to the discussion, and these aren't particularly taboo but...
I'm a big fan of very large inner labia. I've never experienced it before and I hope someday I'll be able to do DATY with a woman who has them.
As a dedicated DATY lover, I've always wanted a line of women who would let me eat them out. Kinda the inverse of the previously mentioned line of women giving BJs. I don't have any interest in that, but if I could be in a room full of women who would let me go down on them for an extended period of time, I'd be in heaven.

 

[LC18]

Very late to the discussion, and these aren't particularly taboo but...
I'm a big fan of very large inner labia. I've never experienced it before and I hope someday I'll be able to do DATY with a woman who has them.
As a dedicated DATY lover, I've always wanted a line of women who would let me eat them out. Kinda the inverse of the previously mentioned line of women giving BJs. I don't have any interest in that, but if I could be in a room full of women who would let me go down on them for an extended period of time, I'd be in heaven.

I think the lineup thing could be arranged.

 

[Julia Sky]

Because yes, for those who aren't aware, 1500-2000$ is what you will end up being billed for 2 hours of "orgy-fun", even with the lube included (what a joke) it is a rip off!!

You're free to book 10 escorts of your choice for a 4 hour date, ask them to provide food and alcohol for you and also have them rent a airbnb, and come back here to let us know how much they asked for! It's too much in your opinion doesn't mean it's a ripoff. It just means these orgies aren't what you're looking for and that's ok

 

[EasyLover71]

You're free to book 10 escorts of your choice for a 4 hour date, ask them to provide food and alcohol for you and also have them rent a airbnb, and come back here to let us know how much they asked for! It's too much in your opinion doesn't mean it's a ripoff. It just means these orgies aren't what you're looking for and that's ok

I agree about almost everything you mentioned here Julia...
But you forgot only one "little" thing in your equation.
Once you add all this, DIVIDE the amount between FIFTEEN of your clients and then compare that amount to the above mentioned 2000$...
Only then your clients will realize how much they are being RIPPED OFF!!!

I don't want to be rude but for an SP, going to an orgy is nothing more than doing 5 clients in a row in a 2 hours period. Which is pretty close to an ordinary day at work for her...

Sorry but for me, going to an orgy is nothing short of paying an SP for 4 hours and being allowed to watch SOMEONE ELSE having fun with her for only 2 hours!!

 

[Julia Sky]

I agree about almost everything you mentioned here Julia...
But you forgot only one "little" thing in your equation.
Once you add all this, DIVIDE the amount between FIFTEEN of your clients and then compare that amount to the above mentioned 2000$...
Only then your clients will realize how much they are being RIPPED OFF!!!

I don't want to be rude but for an SP, going to an orgy is nothing more than doing 5 clients in a row in a 2 hours period. Which is pretty close to an ordinary day at work for her...

Sorry but for me, going to an orgy is nothing short of paying an SP for 4 hours and being allowed to watch SOMEONE ELSE having fun with her for only 2 hours!!

I didn't complain that I was being ripped off recently because I had to pay the same price everyone else paid for a VR experience I went to. You can't expect everyone else to fund the experience for you. This is a weird logic tbh... You wouldn't ask your hairdresser for a better price if you come with friends lol

So anyway, orgies can be a taboo fantasy for some. I think they're fun. Anyone else wants to share their taboo fantasies? Or are we going to turn this into yet another thread complaining about rates?

 

[Jaxan]

Never saw the attraction of an orgy, nor looked to participate in such events, so I have no clue as to the logistics and costs associated. So in my case, it wouldn't be a ripoff, as much as it holds less value to me than what it would cost. But there are some ppl who are really into it, and enjoy it's entirety, and are willing to pay the premium to partake. To each their own.

 

[Fradi]

Maybe an orgy isn't for you if sex is the only part of the evening you would enjoy. In my experience, the clients I've met at orgies always enjoy getting to know the ladies, sharing drinks, snacks, laughs etc, before action takes place.

It's also so much cheaper than it would be if you booked even one single hour with every lady that's present at the orgy, so I wouldn't say it's money wasted. Maybe just not your thing At least in the context of the industry.

You have to keep in mind the cost for alcohol, food, beverages, the location rental, condoms and lube, every lady's pay as well as paying any staff (bartenders for example), so of course it's not going to cost like 500$

The problem with these orgies is I am not into having other men around, I am not anti social I just don’t have any interest in seeing other clients hanging around, the other is more than half of the women there I would not really want to book a session with so If I am extremely lucky I would end up with you, but I would much rather see you alone or perhaps in a duo with another lady that I would select.
Guess orgies are just not for me.
I understand the costs and find it reasonable, that is not my issue.

 

[Kaleb]

I agree about almost everything you mentioned here Julia...
But you forgot only one "little" thing in your equation.
Once you add all this, DIVIDE the amount between FIFTEEN of your clients and then compare that amount to the above mentioned 2000$...
Only then your clients will realize how much they are being RIPPED OFF!!!

I don't want to be rude but for an SP, going to an orgy is nothing more than doing 5 clients in a row in a 2 hours period. Which is pretty close to an ordinary day at work for her...

Sorry but for me, going to an orgy is nothing short of paying an SP for 4 hours and being allowed to watch SOMEONE ELSE having fun with her for only 2 hours!!

I'll do the math for the cheapest orgy you can have for 8 guys and 7 SPs, for 4h. My numbers might be a bit off but I'll go with that.
The cheapest Airbnb for a night for 15 people is around 1500$. Didn't check if they were orgy approved.
Then add 250$ per hour per SP, which tends to be on the cheaper price of what I see on LL(not that the price dictates quality but you're taking a bit of risks there). That totals 7x4x250=7000$
20$ per person for food unless you cook hot dogs yourself. That makes 300$.
For the booze we'll do a good 7 bottles of liquor at 30$ each and 50$ on beer. That's another 260$.
Add lube and condoms for maybe another 150$.

Tldr:
Total comes up at 9210$ that you split up between 8 guys. A little over 1000$ each and every cost can be doubled easily to increase your chances of enjoying the evening. 2000$ is a fair price unless you can find girls that want to have sex with you and your 7 friends.

(sorry I like maths)

 

[LC18]

Don’t want to derail even more but yes.

Costs to consider like many of you have said:
• Airbnb with at the very least 3 bedrooms
• Food, probably some kind of buffet
• Alcoholic and non alcoholic beverages
• Condoms + lube
• 5-6 companions
• most orgies I’ve heard of had a “chaperone”. Just someone hanging out and making sure everyone respects the rules and is comfortable. I guess that person has to be paid too.


And it wouldn’t be too far fetched to assume that the goal is for the providers to make profit, right? So if they were to only charge you the cost of renting the space and feeding you, it wouldn’t be worth it for them.

 

[Jaxan]

My math adds up like this:

Other guys watching me + Seeing naked guys = No thanks

 

[LC18]

My math adds up like this:

Other guys watching me + Seeing naked guys = No thanks

So you wouldn’t hop on the Lena Express Train™ ?

 

[EasyLover71]

I didn't complain that I was being ripped off recently because I had to pay the same price everyone else paid for a VR experience I went to. You can't expect everyone else to fund the experience for you. This is a weird logic tbh... You wouldn't ask your hairdresser for a better price if you come with friends lol

So anyway, orgies can be a taboo fantasy for some. I think they're fun. Anyone else wants to share their taboo fantasies? Or are we going to turn this into yet another thread complaining about rates?

Once again Julia, I am not asking for a rebate because of the number...
You're right, it should not be less than price of 3 or 4 quickies, because it is what your clients will get (I mean only the ones in good shape because the other ones will only dream they could after their first shot on goal!!)
Last time I asked one of your friend for a quicky, I got a pretty decent one for 120$ (room, rubber and lube included) so if I do compute the numbers, it should be around 4 times 120$, not more than 500-600$ for an orgy.
Every extra dollar charged is a rip off in my opinion.
To take your own word, I would not expect my hairdresser for a rebate if I bring 3 friends, but neither would I expect the hairdresser to charge me 3 time the normal haircut price only because my friends are watching her doing her usual job (and trying to rip me off charging for the room, the A/C and the scissors because there are more people in the room!!)

 

[Jaxan]

So you wouldn’t hop on the Lena Express Train™ ?

Punch my ticket for a solo rider

 

[Julia Sky]

Once again Julia, I am not asking for a rebate because of the number...
You're right, it should not be less than price of 3 or 4 quickies, because it is what your clients will get (I mean only the ones in good shape because the other ones will only dream they could after their first shot on goal!!)
Last time I asked one of your friend for a quicky, I got a pretty decent one for 120$ (room, rubber and lube included) so if I do compute the numbers, it should be around 4 times 120$, not more than 500-600$ for an orgy.
Every extra dollar charged is a rip off in my opinion.
To take your own word, I would not expect my hairdresser for a rebate if I bring 3 friends, but neither would I expect the hairdresser to charge me 3 time the normal haircut price only because my friends are watching her doing her usual job (and trying to rip me off charging for the room, the A/C and the scissors because there are more people in the room!!)

You're comparing an orgy, which is a whole event/experience that requires a lot of planning and expenses, with a 120$ quickie. I think you have bigger issues than the price of an orgy. This debate is ridiculous. We get it, orgies aren't for you. Let's move on.

 

[Sylar]

And it wouldn’t be too far fetched to assume that the goal is for the providers to make profit, right? So if they were to only charge you the cost of renting the space and feeding you, it wouldn’t be worth it for them.

I think to increase the value for money from the clients’ perspective an orgy has to be organized by the clients in collaboration with the SPs, or at least a point person that represents the ladies involved.

This ensures that the clients know each other in advance and are comfortable with each other. I cannot stress enough how important this is for an orgy, before and during the action and of course while recharging and having a drink/chat. It will also eliminate the factor of “not having interest in X% of the ladies” as the group can decide on the lineup before and find SPs to fit most people’s taste.

Of course this puts additional risk on the SPs involved and as such requires most people involved to have met each other before in some setting.
It won’t reduce the overall cost for sure but will greatly increase the bang for the buck and hopefully a better experience for everyone.

 

[Sylar]

So you wouldn’t hop on the Lena Express Train™ ?

Listen Lena, I have a picture for this one too but I’ll constrain myself… for now.

 

[LC18]

Companions are paid for their time and not the actions performed.

When we do duos or even trios we have an unwritten rule that says we will charge the highest rate. If Paulette and Hortance do a duo for 2 hours, Paulette’s rate is $300/h and Hortance is $800/h, they’ll ask for $800/h.

I believe it might be similar for orgies but I’ve never been to a professional one and I’m not planning on it so I don’t know anything.

 

[LC18]

Listen Lena, I have a picture for this one too but I’ll constrain myself… for now.

My DMs are always open

 

[EasyLover71]

I'll do the math for the cheapest orgy you can have for 8 guys and 7 SPs, for 4h. My numbers might be a bit off but I'll go with that.
The cheapest Airbnb for a night for 15 people is around 1500$. Didn't check if they were orgy approved.
Then add 250$ per hour per SP, which tends to be on the cheaper price of what I see on LL(not that the price dictates quality but you're taking a bit of risks there). That totals 7x4x250=7000$
20$ per person for food unless you cook hot dogs yourself. That makes 300$.
For the booze we'll do a good 7 bottles of liquor at 30$ each and 50$ on beer. That's another 260$.
Add lube and condoms for maybe another 150$.

Tldr:
Total comes up at 9210$ that you split up between 8 guys. A little over 1000$ each and every cost can be doubled easily to increase your chances of enjoying the evening. 2000$ is a fair price unless you can find girls that want to have sex with you and your 7 friends.

(sorry I like maths)

I also love maths. But I am also an expert at spotting the unncessary expenses when I see them.
Who needs to pay an SP 250$/hour for chichatting?? Don't you have friends (most of the guys have girlfriends for that purpose anyway!!).
The real fun with an SP is when you are in a bed, not sharing a sushis plate with her.
I would also say that half a bottle of LIQUOR per person will lead you to not needing SP's at all!! Because you guys are going to be dead-drunk and sleepy before even reaching the rooms!!
Then why not DOUBLING all these numbers??! Why not tripling or quadrupling them when you're at it?? Then it would qualify a 2000$-2 hour-fuck as a real bargain!!