Hi guys, what’s the definition of low-volume SP? Some of these girls are on schedule for 6-10 hours multiple days a week? Would the bookers tell you what the limit is for a specific girl?
Number of clients in a day?
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- There is no agreed-on definition.
- Being on the schedule is not at all the same thing as seeing clients during all the listed hours. But it could be.
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Low volume vs high volume is a debate that is nonsensical. Why? Because each provider can handle a certain number of clients before feeling off, which is very personal. Some find one client a day high volume whereas others feel comfortable doing 4. At the end of the day, the provider should see the number of clients she feel she can properly cater to, with the same level of service given to each patron.
The reality is however, most agency girls see more clients in a day than independents. But at the end of the day, you are seeing an escort and she will most likely not be having sex with just one person during a day, whether it's another client or a partner.
As an example, I write on my ads ''12pm to 9pm'' which means that is my availability for the day. But say someone books me 12pm to 2pm. Then I consider myself fully booked for that day. Doesn't mean I'm seeing clients back to back from 12pm to 9pm, rather that I offer that window and then decide when I have enough clients for that timeframe.
The reality is however, most agency girls see more clients in a day than independents. But at the end of the day, you are seeing an escort and she will most likely not be having sex with just one person during a day, whether it's another client or a partner.
As an example, I write on my ads ''12pm to 9pm'' which means that is my availability for the day. But say someone books me 12pm to 2pm. Then I consider myself fully booked for that day. Doesn't mean I'm seeing clients back to back from 12pm to 9pm, rather that I offer that window and then decide when I have enough clients for that timeframe.
As in agencies, if in general the popular girls who work 2-3 days a week meet several clients, I am not sure that the last one will have the same service as the first.
Taking care and fucking 4-5 clients, taking at least 4-5 showers requires excellent form, and which is not often the case, as they are young women who like to party, alcohol, drugs and travel to the south.
Yes Rose, you are right, but often in agencies you don't have that choice, it's one client after another.
In general, Indies take fewer customers per day, and their slogan is "Quality over quantity."
Taking care and fucking 4-5 clients, taking at least 4-5 showers requires excellent form, and which is not often the case, as they are young women who like to party, alcohol, drugs and travel to the south.
Yes Rose, you are right, but often in agencies you don't have that choice, it's one client after another.
In general, Indies take fewer customers per day, and their slogan is "Quality over quantity."
Sene5hos, agencies have a different business model, which is why the prices are so low. They rely on volume (both of providers and clients) in order to make money. When I was charging 200-250 I had so many requests I could’ve easily worked 8h days. I like to think agency providers see only the number of clients they can properly handle, to avoid burnout, but we know that’s not the case. However, let’s not go into stigmatized generalizations about escort and drugs please.
As a client, choosing to see an agency provider is accepting that she will see multiple clients a day. As soon as the prices go up, the volume goes down. So if it’s something that bothers PinkJordan, than he should see someone who is priced higher. You can’t have it both ways
As a client, choosing to see an agency provider is accepting that she will see multiple clients a day. As soon as the prices go up, the volume goes down. So if it’s something that bothers PinkJordan, than he should see someone who is priced higher. You can’t have it both ways
As stated, it is hard to say what is “low” volume. Every escort is different. I can only state why I say that I am low volume and that is because I do not see more then one client in a day and I only see a couple of clients a month.
Others could be low volume seeing 2 clients a day 3-4 days a week.
It all depends.
Girls who work at agencies/MP typically see 6-8 clients/day, usually back-to-back, maybe a 30-minute break halfway through. They rarely work more than 5 days/week, most of them less.
Normally, anyway. It's a bit different now because of COVID and a lack of tourists.
If you're looking for low volume providers, indies are the only option. And as a general rule, the more expensive they are, the more low volume they are.
Normally, anyway. It's a bit different now because of COVID and a lack of tourists.
If you're looking for low volume providers, indies are the only option. And as a general rule, the more expensive they are, the more low volume they are.
I hope she takes a shower between each client?
With 6-8 clients I would say no.
Ah I understand why a member in MP told me "don't take this girl her vagina smells of latex"
I hope she uses mouthwash, too. Especially after some guy finished with CIM and the next guy comes through the door expecting to be greeted with DFK.
Asking about volume is like having an amazing piece of steak in front of you and asking how the cow is slaughtered. Just ruins it all. Curiosity kills the cat. Ha ha.
Things like volume never entered into a choice for me.
I chose based on who attracted me then what kind of vibe her web site sent and after a couple of email exchanges it was an easy choice, have so far never had a bad experience.
I did have one lady who really had pretty much all the things I was not looking for, she was very young, tattoos, piercings not what my preconceived idea was.
After a few exchanges she seemed like such a nice person that I ended up meeting her.
It turned out to be a fabulous choice she is an exceptional kind and gorgeous person, pretty much changed the way I look at things since then.
I only see Indys has nothing to do with volume, I don’t like dealing with bookers and middle men and like the individual attention that an Indy provides and don’t mind paying a higher price for that.
I chose based on who attracted me then what kind of vibe her web site sent and after a couple of email exchanges it was an easy choice, have so far never had a bad experience.
I did have one lady who really had pretty much all the things I was not looking for, she was very young, tattoos, piercings not what my preconceived idea was.
After a few exchanges she seemed like such a nice person that I ended up meeting her.
It turned out to be a fabulous choice she is an exceptional kind and gorgeous person, pretty much changed the way I look at things since then.
I only see Indys has nothing to do with volume, I don’t like dealing with bookers and middle men and like the individual attention that an Indy provides and don’t mind paying a higher price for that.
If some are seeing 6-8 per day, 5 days a week, seems quite heavy, not sure how long that can be kept up.
That can be kept up for years with the occasional vacation every once in a while.
I personally avoid those girls most of the time, because most of the time it's not the type of service I'm looking for. It's not like it's bad or anything though. I would compare it to going on a ride in an amusement park. You're going to have fun and most likely get your money's worth, but it's kind of always the same, more or less standardized, and strictly a business transaction. If you're a regular with a girl or she likes you, maybe she'll give you a little extra. Kind of like you might get one of the best seats in the front of a rollercoaster if you're friends with someone there, but regardless, it's still going to be the same amusement park ride.
Anyway, I wasn't able to think of a better analogy.
Logical and when it comes to certain SPs i think its sustainable. If one charge 400$/h but is fine with seeing lets say 6 clients per week, then its great. Often indies also have regulars who often are high roller who see them once a week or so and this is guarenteed income pretty much. Lets say they have a regular who book once a week for 2/3 hours thats 800/1200 security right there of guarenteed income. And thats just ONE, often they may have 2 or more.
But for that to be possible, reputation need to have been established, regular clients "hooked" (no pun intended). If every ladies would be 400$ in Montreal i think the market would simply collapse. Too much clients either can't or don't want to put 400$ for 1h, let alone 800 on a 2h. I have a friend who has a rather decent budget in life, he COULD see 400h indies, but he don't want to as for him its too much. He threw me a few jabs on the ocasions i did it. lol
When it comes to me, i can meet probably once every 2 months if i see 1 agency lady at 250$ or less. Depending on various factors like if i need to pay an hotel room or not etc. So if i go for a 400H indy, i need to extend the "break" longer. I do it ocasionally but it must be that she has all the criteria .. Face pics, stellar reputation/reviews, incredible body, basically i must be "craving" her hardcore lol. And even then i tell myself at times i could have a great time with an agency lady who has all these same criterias.
One thing for sure, my budget is not flexible, so if price goes up, i must meet less. The good thing (for us clients) is that there will always be young debutant ladies and even "veterans" who just enjoy agencies because of the "no hassles" of the indy side (planning, renting an incall, answering inquiries etc) wanting to make some money and willing to accept agency rates as payments. And the great agencies of Montreal in general have been great "cerberus" when it comes to assuring the ladies they hire provide quality services in general. So i thanks them.
I see a few indies who charged 400h and decided to up to 500h etc. If they can do it and still make the money they want, i totally understand why they do and good for them. But when they "patronize" other SPs for "charging too less" and basically complaining they "gatekeep" the rate increase they want to make "normal" , then it itch me in the wrong way. Especially when they compare to USA rates, like if this was anything similar.
I remembered when I used to work in the agency. I didn’t enjoy it. I used to work in an outcall agency in Montreal, I would see 4-5 clients and have 30 minutes of time in between. It’s mentally and physically drawning, and I considered myself enough lucky to make this money in the agency.When I was to work in an incall agency in Toronto I would see more sometimes more than 5 clients while I was touring and the break in-between was 15 minutes. So yes, it was hard to clean the place, relax, eat and take multiple showers a day. Today, I can see 1 client a day and considered myself “ fully booked”. Personally, I feel like I can connect with everyone I met with, give enough attention.
Great subject to broach to be at least a little considerate of the ladies.
Does the relationship between the ladies and the booker and how careful and "skilled" (being aware and have foresight) the booker is factor in a big deal with girls in an agency?
Do girls appreciate very much a client that books multiple hours (2 or more)?
Appreciate the Montreal scene a lot more and take care of the girls - been stuck here in Southern California and independents here are asking $600 / hr and up and there are no agencies (for obvious, legal reasons). And there's nothing like the GFE in Montreal - believe me.
Does the relationship between the ladies and the booker and how careful and "skilled" (being aware and have foresight) the booker is factor in a big deal with girls in an agency?
Do girls appreciate very much a client that books multiple hours (2 or more)?
Appreciate the Montreal scene a lot more and take care of the girls - been stuck here in Southern California and independents here are asking $600 / hr and up and there are no agencies (for obvious, legal reasons). And there's nothing like the GFE in Montreal - believe me.
That can be kept up for years with the occasional vacation every once in a while.
I personally avoid those girls most of the time, because most of the time it's not the type of service I'm looking for. It's not like it's bad or anything though. I would compare it to going on a ride in an amusement park. You're going to have fun and most likely get your money's worth, but it's kind of always the same, more or less standardized, and strictly a business transaction. If you're a regular with a girl or she likes you, maybe she'll give you a little extra. Kind of like you might get one of the best seats in the front of a rollercoaster if you're friends with someone there, but regardless, it's still going to be the same amusement park ride.
Anyway, I wasn't able to think of a better analogy.
I agree. I used to work at a massage parlour in Montreal and would see 4-5 clients /day, but I didn't feel I was able to give everyone the attention I wanted to. It wasn't possible in the short time we had, nor would it have been emotionally possible to do so either. So, while I always had good comments, I did offer a standardized service.
Now I can take the extra time with someone if I'm having a good conversation because there's no one knocking on my door telling me to hurry up. I rarely see anyone for less than 90 minutes, which gives me more time to get to know the person and for us to really enjoy our time together. But, I only see max 1 person/day so I priced my services accordingly.
Exactly! The number of clients a girl can see is really up to her. When I see 2 clients a day, or if I have a 2h booking or more, I consider myself fully booked. I am going to put my schedule and availabilities online, but that doesn't mean I'll be meeting clients during all these windows of time where I make myself available. Indies are viewed as low volume because we charge more and we see fewer people. I enjoy the time spent with every suitor more since I'm an indy and I can give my A+ service to everyone I get to meet.
Like Anastasia, I used to work in an agency and to make money, you have to see various clients. This does make us more tired and may influence the service we may give no matter if we have a standard service we provide. I was always told I gave an amazing experience, but after 4 clients, you are tired and you want to go home. It didn't pay enough. This was not the only thing, sometimes I used to work at the agency after a shift at my civie job or a University class. You're already tired, so when you have 4-5 clients back to back, when it's the time for you to meet the last client, you may not be as joyful as when you met the first client of your evening.
One of my closest friends who is a well-known agency provider, was tired after 3 years in a half in the business. I tried convincing her to turn indy, but she doesn't feel like booking, posting ads, exchanging with clients. It is a lot of work some ladies can't keep up with and it's totally ok. Totally understandable. She's been thinking of leaving the business, because the high volume at the agency has drained her on top of her studies...
On my side, turning indy was the best decision I took regarding my job! Not only for the low volume impact, but for the word and the decisions I get to take everyday concerning my job. I choose who I really want to meet and manage things myself with the clients.
Like Anastasia, I used to work in an agency and to make money, you have to see various clients. This does make us more tired and may influence the service we may give no matter if we have a standard service we provide. I was always told I gave an amazing experience, but after 4 clients, you are tired and you want to go home. It didn't pay enough. This was not the only thing, sometimes I used to work at the agency after a shift at my civie job or a University class. You're already tired, so when you have 4-5 clients back to back, when it's the time for you to meet the last client, you may not be as joyful as when you met the first client of your evening.
One of my closest friends who is a well-known agency provider, was tired after 3 years in a half in the business. I tried convincing her to turn indy, but she doesn't feel like booking, posting ads, exchanging with clients. It is a lot of work some ladies can't keep up with and it's totally ok. Totally understandable. She's been thinking of leaving the business, because the high volume at the agency has drained her on top of her studies...
On my side, turning indy was the best decision I took regarding my job! Not only for the low volume impact, but for the word and the decisions I get to take everyday concerning my job. I choose who I really want to meet and manage things myself with the clients.
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