Phone Etiquette

[BuckSwope]

Sometimes when you are on the phone, the operator will ask you ``What are you looking for?``

I`ve always wondered - should we use terms like or blowjob without condom? Or should we say Greek or anal?

Would most agencies just hang up if you asked for particulars versus just saying ``open-minded``?

 

[daydreamer41]

Use the spreadsheet and call the more open minded agencies. JDM, almost the whole staff; Luxure, most but not all; Asservissante - ymmv; Fantasme, it used to be most but now most do not; say to them you want oral without - they will not hang up;; they recommend the girls. Confirm it with the girls when they get there. The girls are honest; they will tell you yes or no for sure. Greek, I have no idea because I don't go there.

 

[Doctor Evil]

Phone etiquette has gone out the window today!

It use to be that you had to be diplomatic when you spoke on the phone to MPs or SPs or agencies. Today I find that many are open and will tell you what you want to know. try Massage Plus
or Pussycat. They will tell you outright that oral or penatration is available on the premisis.


<Doctor Evil, please check your pm's and respond back to me. Thank you. M3>

 

[BuckSwope]

Should anal be asked as:

Looking for a girl who does anal or looking for a girl who does Greek (do all the agencies know what that means?)

 

[BuckSwope]

Opinions?

 

[Dr. Torpedo]

I like the open agencies. Jacues will come out and tell you very explicitly what their girls will do. I once asked Jacque if any of his girls "use condom for blowjob", and outright replied, "our girls NEVER use condoms for blowjob, unless he is really dirty". He also once told me, "ah, she will do anal, my friend. You will love her". Martin isn't as explicit, rather he uses the phrase, "she is VERY open minded". I followed up with, "open as in 'anal' open", and his reply was, "oui".

Etiquette? Please...since when was etiquette required when dealing with whores and their pimps...I don't mean that in a derogative way...only in an illustrative way...

 

[Dr. Torpedo]

BTW, where is Fred Zed. I liked it when FZ moderated the place.

 

[naughtylady]

:
Etiquette? Please...since when was etiquette required when dealing with whores and their pimps...I don't mean that in a derogative way...only in an illustrative way...

Dr. Torpedo>> I am trying to find a way not to see this comment as derogative and am not able to do so. You are not dealing with "whores and pimps", you are dealing with people. People who have feelings. Remember every whore you see is somebody's daughter. She is somebody's friend. Whores have people who care about them. Some might be messed up, some may have turned to prostitution out of desperation, but we are all human beings, just like you are. Try to remember that.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[metoo4]

As Ronnie said, it does sound bad... But let's replace the word "pimp" and "whore" by "service manager" and "mechanic": The meaning of the sentence is the same but the way we interpret it is different. Why?

It doesn't matter who we deal with, we are doing a business transaction with peoples and it should be dealt with as such.
Some agencies/ladies feel comfortable being explicit and some don't.

I suggest being as "discrete" as possible until you get the feel how the person at the other end reacts: if they are wide open like "you can fuck that girl and cum in any hole you want, she just loves it!" then, stay polite but be as explicit as you feel, if they are discrete, respect it and, if you need to go deeper than they are willing to go, call somewhere else but, stay courteous, no need to bash them if you can't agree.

Because they do a job that is not "valorized" in general, it doesn't make them lesser peoples and we must accept that.

 

[Dr. Torpedo]

Sorry, fellas, the statement was a bad joke. I used to be a cop in a major crime city. While I agree with the "somebaody's daughter's" analysis, I take a much darker view of the whole hobby. I have seen the dark and ugly side of prostitution, and if these were your daughters...

It's amazing what girls confess while in handcuffs. For all the talk about GFE and such, deep down inside, it's really a nasty profession. Changing the semantics from and terms to "service manager" and "mechanic" doesn't change the reality.

Now, I take an even darker view because I now practice criminal law in America, and yes, I represent some alleged vice criminals and dancers (who are not really prostitutes, but dancers who were overzealously prosecuted for "incidental contact"). I hear shit that I didn't even know before (now they trust me because I'm on their side; I'm one of the good guys).

To me the hobby is like disneyland...it's all fantasy, all fun...but behind the fantasy and inside the mickey mouse costumes are a bunch of disgruntled, miserable, sociopathic misfits.

However, if I offended anyone, then I take back my words. Besides, I'm a lawyer...I'm the ultimate whore...a 10K retainer gets my legs spread faster than Martin could say "Oui, Oui". I really am a nice guy who respects everyone; it's just that I am a bit more realistic about the guy behind the mickey mouse costume.

 

[joeblow]

Originally posted by Dr. Torpedo
It's amazing what girls confess while in handcuffs. For all the talk about GFE and such, deep down inside, it's really a nasty profession. Changing the semantics from and terms to "service manager" and "mechanic" doesn't change the reality. [...] To me the hobby is like disneyland...it's all fantasy, all fun...but behind the fantasy and inside the mickey mouse costumes are a bunch of disgruntled, miserable, sociopathic misfits.

Dr. Torpedo,
You are probably generalizing too much, but nevertheless, I agree with your reality check. We are never too often reminded that the hobby is a fantasy world. I see the client-SP interface (including this board) as a relatively clean and proper "front-office" whereas the SP-agency/pimp interface is the not-so-clean back-office, where dealings and practices are less than fantasical. Also, this font-office/back-office dichotomy is in no way particular to the business of sex. Actually, I can't think of any industry where worker relations are better than customer relations.

JB