Photo shoot

[jalimon]

I believe Julia and I am sure many other girl would agree with her. They do get many request for supposed "photo shooting" from amateur who's intention are most probably not well intended...

That said like Hungry I often took pics of girls. Girl who trust me. Who I have seen a few times.

I also very often took the sp's phone and took picture of her. Even with girl I saw for the first time. It's their own phone. With proper natural lightning and a bit of luck one can take great pics with just a phone. Some girl thanked me over a year later of some pics I took. And when I see the girl publishing the pic on twitter or her website it does makes me happy.

 

[kabukicho]

hahaha jalimon, i too, have reached that level of amatuer photographic success. its very flattering.


however *I* was never told 'my' pics would be published. how dare these women play me.

 

[hungry101]

The difference is when we go for a photoshoot we expect professionalism. I’m not getting paid to be a whore when I do a photoshoot so I expect not to be treated like one, regaress if how slutty my pics are.

This is very interesting to me. Over the years, I've seen a few examples of what you are referring to. There was this girl in Dallas/Ft. Worth I saw a few years ago. She was a hispanic girl from a small town and it turned out we had something in common. Her name was Adrianna Paige. Anyway, she had the most incredible Vimeo add. I had a session with her that I selected solely on her Vimeo video. She was good looking in person and I wasn't disappointed but her photos were incredible. The photographer did a Vimeo video based on the shoot. I fell in love with that Video. Listen to the Falsa Baiana and watch this video: https://vimeo.com/46591141 I thought she was a Brasileira but she was not.

Anyway, I told the girl how much I loved her Vimeo video and that her photos were incredible. She said that she hired a photographer who used to shoot for Penthouse and she paid a lot of money for her shoot. She said she finally found somebody who took pictures of her that she actually liked. She was so happy that she put down a large deposit on the next shoot. She trusted him and he was very professional with her. Then, all of a sudden, the photographer asked if she would be willing to trade sex for the photoshoot. I believe she told me that she felt violated and walked out. She never got her photos and lost her deposit. She referred to him as a pervert. It was 5-7 years ago but that is how I remember it.

I didn't say anything but I remembered thinking "why not?" He's a great photographer and she could take the money she saved and put it in her bank account in trade for something that she does all the time. I paid something like $350/hour for her time. It would be a case of simple arithmetic. But there was something deeper at stake here. He violated some level of trust she had in him. Maybe, a professional photo shoot with this guy for money made her feel better about what she did to earn a living? Maybe this was something that made her feel like her profession was more mainstream? I mean she felt like a real model during her photo shoot. Hell, look at it. I love it. She made art for me to enjoy. Just look at that smile. It made may heart flutter. I haven't watched it in years and I still love it.

 

[Julia Sky]

I think it all comes down to trust and professionalism, the same way you wouldn’t want your therapist or garagist that you’re paying for their services to ask "how about we just fuck instead?" or be like "Wow that’s such a nice car, gives me a boner babe". Ok, I know, lots of guys would love to fuck their therapist but that’s not my point LOL.

 

[curly]

I understand that this professionalism is a behavior you expect from someone you hire Julia. I understand how, if you're going there to be photographed and it turns into a pushy, harassing and disrespectful moment is inappropriate and something you seek to avoid.

However Detfolk is taking about a boudoir photoshoot with a model, and I imagine he's ready to pay and hire that model if he posts it on this board. I assume he's not talking about a porn shoot if he's using the term boudoir.

So what I don't understand is, if he has a disagreement and deletes the pictures, that's his loss... let's pretend he gets a boner doing this; what's the difference with another client getting a boner by asking you for another fantasy? And if he wants to have sex after and he paid the client rate, what's the difference with another client? And if he just wants to take picture, then you fulfill his fantasy and no one is hurt. What am I missing?

I mean, if your mechanics gets a boner from your car, who the hell cares if your car is fixed in the end? If a female mechanics told me I made her wet, I would not be offended as ugly as she might be!!! Does not mean I'd have sex with her, but I would take it as a compliment.

 

[hungry101]

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I mean, if your mechanics gets a boner from your car, who the hell cares if your car is fixed in the end? If a female mechanics told me I made her wet, I would not be offended as ugly as she might be!!! Does not mean I'd have sex with her, but I would take it as a compliment.

Eleganza had a knock out blond that was also a mechanic. I would of given her my car in trade for a few sessions.

I agree. Like the example I listed above. I was very surprised by the girls attitude toward her photographer. She wanted that relationship to remain professional. It is baffling but I apparently am not an expert on women. If the Eleganza mechanic allowed me to pay with sex for my repairs I would have been ecstatic.

 

[Al Swearengen]

Confessions of a Camera buff.

I have been a camera and photography buff since the time of the B&W darkroom I have never been a pro, but in school I took pics for the school newspaper and yearbook. There were a lot of girls that had stars in their eyes and wanted to make it as a model or TV,film star. There were also girls that were exited to be in front of the camera. Starting in my late teens I had girls that asked me to make photos for them so they could pursue their careers in modeling and acting. I never asked them to do nudes, but I did ask them what type of photos they would do. If they even suggested any interest that they would do nudes I would tell them that I did do a nude portfolio for one girl. From there they would usually talk themselves into doing the nude photo shoot. I told them that I could develop B&W photos and that the best way to proceed was to take a lot of B&W`s and then pick out the best photos and then do a second photo shoot in color. Of course this was all before the internet and digital age. My Modus Operendi was to go through a few Penthouse and nudie magazines and pick out the poses to replicate. Do a photo shoot in B&W then do a second photo shoot with color film.
I did the nude shoots with good looking girls, and some girls that had no chance in modeling. One girl was tall and slim with pert breast, she looked like Jenilee Harrison. ( Three's Company ) Her impediment to modeling was that she had a bumpy pock marked face on one cheek.

https://fanpix.famousfix.com/pictures/jenilee-harrison/p24711025

Some girls that agreed to do the nude photo shoots arrived un prepared, some had huge bushes. I pretended to accommodate them by searching around for single use razors, shaving cream and scissors. Most of the time they asked me to snip the bush for them. In total I did eight nudie photo shoots. three girls asked me directly and the other five were referrals from these girls. I did other photo shoots that were clothing and bikini shoots. These were exiting times for a young guy in the 80`s, I am sure it starts to get boring for people that do these things regularly.

 

[Julia Sky]

Lol hungry you are thinking with your man brain ("lololol I’d be ecstatic if the hot blonde mechanic let me fuck her") and therefore don’t seem to understand why it’s not okay to be unprofessional in a photoshoot (or any professional) context...


Curly, boudoir or porn, this difference isn’t going to stop a creepy photographer to be creepy. I’m not saying the OP is creepy. I’m just saying we have to be careful and choose who we work with because we don’t know and there are far too many unprofessional ones.

In my scenario the girl paid the photographer and he deleted the pictures. You’re actually taking every point I made and turning it around to fit a certain agenda... In my scenario the photographers who want sex want it exchange for pictures, or they expect not to pay. Even if they do intend to pay, the professional way to go about it is wait for the shoot to be done to even bring it up. It’s unprofessional to stop mid-shoot to let your model know that you’d like to fuck her. I’m talking about actual photoshoots, not clients taking a few pics for fun lol...

It’s not that deep. You guys act like I have power to keep every woman on the planet from shooting with the guy. I’m sure there’s tons of willing women. I just know than most of the escorts I know are wary of amateurs because we have experience with photoshoots & too often photographers act inappropriately, even more so because of the nature of our work & the nature of the shoots.

That said, Good luck to the OP.

 

[funnyricky]

Julia,toi tu ne crois que ''ton'' scénario possible! C'est sûr que les filles(pas que toi) fassiez attention! Pourtant ce n'était pas difficile comme question au départ de ce thread! et maintenant ça tourne au vinaigre à cause de scénario possible!!! Pourtant ce n'est pas une histoire de PERV'S,il veut savoir si ça intéresse quelqu'un!! si oui tant mieux,sinon tant pis! On passe à autre chose que des PERV'S....anyway qui somme nous pour juger de monde PERV'S......j'pense qu'il y a pas mal de petit perv( homme et femme) sur ce forum,et à différent niveau! Bonne journée!

 

[Julia Sky]

Je n’ai jamais dit que c’était le seul scénario possible, j’ai même précisé à plusieurs reprises que évidemment ce n’est pas toujours comme ça que ça se passe et heureusement. A la base j’expliquais juste pourquoi on doit se méfier (en tant que femmes mais encore plus en tant qu’escortes car les gens se donnent des libertés à notre égard). C’est aussi simple que ça. J’ai souhaité bonne chance à l’OP dans ses recherches.

 

[hungry101]

Lol hungry you are thinking with your man brain ("lololol I’d be ecstatic if the hot blonde mechanic let me fuck her") and therefore don’t seem to understand why it’s not okay to be unprofessional in a photoshoot (or any professional) context...

No, but I am trying to understand and I think I get some of it. I guess this is more than just a service that you provide. If you were a tax accountant and in mid shoot I said, how about you do may taxes and this shoot is on the house you probably wouldn't have a problem?

The escort above reminded me of the famous Jennifer of MTLGFE but she was a tomboy. She told me she was a mechanic for a dealership and, standing in front of me in heels wearing the fishnets I bought her I just couldn't see it. Coincidentally, I had just had service and repair work on a model of car that she would be familiar with. She proceeded to tell me all about the systemic problem of the model car I owned and I can tell you that she was a mechanic. Just not the grease monkey one would expect. She was an Eleganza star for awhile. Ironically, her per hour rate was probably not much more than the dealership's per hour rate.

the professional way to go about it is wait for the shoot to be done to even bring it up. It’s unprofessional to stop mid-shoot to let your model know that you’d like to fuck her.

True.

My buddy is a golf pro and he traded lessons to an orthodontist and his wife for braces for both his kids. One Montreal escort told me she had a financial adviser and that she was trading her services for his services.

I realize that sex or intimacy can be a bit different than a golf pro trading lessons for braces but I still don't think it would have been wrong for the photographer to try to work out a deal with Adriana. Adriana's reaction was a definite surprise to me and an eye opener and I tried to explain what she have been feeling above. Honestly, if I were a gigolo lover I wouldn't think twice to go down on my seamstress or accountant etc. and pocket the cash I would have spent to procure her services. I think this is how the man brain works.

 

[Fradi]

Now you will have all kinds of people asking for role play as a perv photographer.
Wonder how many SP are ok with that lol, and if he can keep the photographs.

 

[Howards Johnson]

We live in the internet world now where photos can zoom around the world in a fraction of a second. I knew an old guy that was into hobbying here in Montreal and around the world in vacation spots. He had old polaroids and 35mm of SPs in action. Back in the 70s and 80s some SPs would allow photos if they believed that it would not go further than a gringo's scrap book.

 

[curly]

We live in the internet world now where photos can zoom around the world in a fraction of a second. I knew an old guy that was into hobbying here in Montreal and around the world in vacation spots. He had old polaroids and 35mm of SPs in action. Back in the 70s and 80s some SPs would allow photos if they believed that it would not go further than a gringo's scrap book.

What a perv! You mean he would Jack off looking at these photos in his scrap book? Jacking off to Internet porn is so much better!

 

[jalimon]

What a perv! You mean he would Jack off looking at these photos in his scrap book? Jacking off to Internet porn is so much better!

Curly back in the day's I 'pleased/educated myself' out of Sears annual magazine haha That's pretty much the best/only free 'porn' we had back then!

 

[Harcourt Mudd]

What a perv! You mean he would Jack off looking at these photos in his scrap book? Jacking off to Internet porn is so much better!

What? You can't do both? Years ago in the film camera days, I got SP's to allow me to take pics. Some would allow pics if I took them without their face. Some would allow all pics. I told one SP that the pro cameras were not the same as 35mm cameras, that is why UFO pics and Sasquach pics are so grainy.
She let me do the pics. :fat:

 

[travelfreak]

Having been doing photography for 15+ years and many different styles, with and without clothing, I can only recommend to sharpen your skills before attempting anything like this, as was said in an earlier post. Just to know camera settings to get the focal depth you want, the lighting to create the highlights and shadows, it all takes practice. And I would highly recommend paying a real model that is comfortable and knows her part, makes your life a lot easier than having a girl with no experience that doesn't know what to do with her body in regards to shapes. And one other thing to remember is all these horror stories about the GWC that are sexually assaulting girls, either physically or verbally. This makes it even harder to get anyone to work with you unless you have a strong portfolio you can show. You don't want to come off as the GWC that only wants to load up his own "spank bank" with some new material, that is just creepy. Any model will do photo shoots for specific use, either their own promo, maybe submissions for magazines or other reasons, but I never met one that would just take pictures for no reason at all. Especially with an inexperienced GWC that just wants to take pictures because it is a dream of his.

 

[Chef Boyardee]

I have a collection of puzzy pics. ( no faces )