Review rating system

[Fradi]

We're not bringing this up in every thread. I think it's relevant to bring this up on a thread about a degrading and overly simplistic rating system that could be abused by disrespectful clients.. i don't think it makes sense to compare this to providers you speculate don't like their clients.

Really ? Take a look at the recent “ time waister” thread post # 25.
There it is again not the same wording but pretty similar in meaning, there the topic was time wasting , why bring up violence? If men are so terrible why do escorting?

I think the comparison is very valid, men and women are not that different and they don’t always like each other and can be mean and horrible as well as kind and thoughtful. You were not talking about the rating system you just made a statement ( no idea why ) that some hobbyists actually dislike women. It is ok we don’t have to agree.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Really ? Take a look at the recent “ time waister” thread post # 25.
There it is again not the same wording but pretty similar in meaning, there the topic was time wasting , why bring up violence? If men are so terrible why do escorting?

I think the comparison is very valid, men and women are not that different and they don’t always like each other and can be mean and horrible as well as kind and thoughtful. You were not talking about the rating system you just made a statement ( no idea why ) that some hobbyists actually dislike women. It is ok we don’t have to agree.

The post about time wasters is about disrespectful behavior, so it's relevant to bring it up. There are tons of other posts here like taboo fantasy etc. My statement is very relevant because hobbyists who see us as objects will find a rating system like this convenient, this is my reasoning behind bringing this up and I don't really understand why this is offending you because this has nothing to do with you because it's clear that you're not like that.

I'm also making sure by stating these opinions that this type of clients doesnt book me Because like I said, a very large percentages clients of escorts want to be respectful to us and love seeing us and love women.

 

[Fradi]

The post about time wasters is about disrespectful behavior. There are tons of other posts here like taboo fantasy etc. My statement is very relevant because hobbyists who see us as objects will find a rating system like this convenient, this is my reasoning behind bringing this up and I don't really understand why this is offending you because this has nothing to do with you because it's clear that you're not like that.

As far as the rating system goes I don’t really care how someone rates or reviews as long as it is respectful and not dehumanizing.
Stars or a long glorified story whatever. I take what I want from a review or don’t even bother to read it if it is about a provider I am not interested in or a reviewer I don’t trust.

It is offensive simply because I am tired of SP constantly bashing clients. We all know scumbags exist as clients and as SP so making generalized digs at men in these threads is not very impressive nor helpful.

I don’t need to defend myself as I have said I am comfortable with who I am and you can always ask someone who I have reviewed what I am like in real life. I am sure SP do this routinely and they would be doing themselves a disservice if they didn’t. You can also read any of my reviews and you will never find a disrespectful word towards any escort I have been with.

I don’t do negative reviews unless it is a clear bait and switch or the client may be in danger,
I will not tarnish anybodies reputation simply because we didn’t have chemistry or I didn’t see stars because It is quite normal not to click with everyone you meet, and if by chance it turns out that I am not attracted to her then it is 100% my fault as I should have done my homework better.

 

[Jordd]

Lol I deleted my comment because I did assume people use AI because they're dyslexic. A close friend of mine does it.

It would be nice if people would stop policing the way others write reviews as long as it's done respectfully, or trying to bully clients into sharing info and writing reviews..

Ummm it’s a review board

 

[Jordd]

My point was simply why bring this up in every thread just about.
Yes there are scumbags who dislike and mistreat women and yes there are scumbag SP that hate what they are doing and their clients.
It is reality of life and an unfortunate part that both SP and clients will need to deal with, part of why this Forum exists, hopefully to keep all of us as safe as possible.

Because it’s a common thread. Perhaps the providers could better speak to that, but I imagine the majority fall into that cateogey, ie. woman haters or client haters.
That’s why the gems are rare.

 

[Jordd]

There's a difference between someone who enjoys booking providers and genuinely loves women and is respectful to them vs someone who has impossible expectations, is a boundary pusher, shares personal details with other clients and gets off on writing bad reviews when they don't get what they exactly wanted. It's not about the quantity of providers they see, it's about how they treat us and view us.

I think it's relevant to bring this up here, because I think a rating system like this is really dehumanizing. Just take a look at the review part of the board and you'll find comments that are made by individuals who are totally devoid of respect and empathy. Let's not make it worse.

A large part of local clients are lurkers who have mixed feelings or even negative feelings about review boards, but they still rely on reviews to choose a provider. If a provider keeps getting 1/5 because she doesn't do greek and wants you to leave when the time is up.. a client might just see the 1/5 and decide not to book her even if she could offer an amazing experience

I hear what you are saying. Unfortunately, there will be always be people devoid of tact or respect and some may be vengeful. Actually, the mods seem to be doing a good job of filtering out disrespectful and unfair comments.

Otherwise, you can’t control what people may say. The only thing you can control is how you do your job and treat people. My suggestion to you, is not to worry about what’s said in reviews.

I appreciate participation of the providers in the forum to give a perspective from "the other side" and to engage in discussion. It also gives insight into the persons personality, which is essential (for some of us anyway).

 

[Rebaynia]

My comment was just a joke and an extreme example of reviews that were good, followed by "no repeat" and vice versa!
We are all grown-ups (I hope) here and I’m sure a decision to repeat is based on personal experience and has nothing to do with others’ reviews!

LoL, sorry, the humor was outside my catch. (I can be pretty dense with some kinds of humor.) I love puns, but sarcastic humor can go over my head and under my feet, leaving me completely clueless a funny was made.

 

[Rebaynia]

As far as the rating system goes I don’t really care how someone rates or reviews as long as it is respectful and not dehumanizing.
Stars or a long glorified story whatever. I take what I want from a review or don’t even bother to read it if it is about a provider I am not interested in or a reviewer I don’t trust.

It is offensive simply because I am tired of SP constantly bashing clients. We all know scumbags exist as clients and as SP so making generalized digs at men in these threads is not very impressive nor helpful.

I don’t need to defend myself as I have said I am comfortable with who I am and you can always ask someone who I have reviewed what I am like in real life. I am sure SP do this routinely and they would be doing themselves a disservice if they didn’t. You can also read any of my reviews and you will never find a disrespectful word towards any escort I have been with.

I don’t do negative reviews unless it is a clear bait and switch or the client may be in danger,
I will not tarnish anybodies reputation simply because we didn’t have chemistry or I didn’t see stars because It is quite normal not to click with everyone you meet, and if by chance it turns out that I am not attracted to her then it is 100% my fault as I should have done my homework better.

We get your point... you don't want to hear that there is a dangerous side of this job. You want your fantasy that this is a blessing to do this and we all have great expieriences and should love what we do...

Please understand the ones we comment on in the negative, are rarely the hobbyists we actually see. These are the men who throw up so many red flags before even getting to a booking, that we aren't complaining about our clients, but the potential clients who we refuse to see.

Now a point I have made to my master before as well... You know your friends as you see them when they are with their bros, they are charismatic, fun, a bros bro. You are in denial that that same man who is cool with you, can have an ax to grind about how their relationships have been, and though you see a good guy, their views on women and how they treat them can be very different when they are alone with a woman behind closed doors.
I have warned many clients in the past about vouching for the character of their friend. That I have had such bad expieriences in cases where a client I liked vouched for a friend, and the expierience with their friend went poorly enough I fired the orrigional client as well because the expierience tainted my ability to enjoy the original any longer.

You don't like hearing the truth of the darker side of this world, but we live it, and unfortunately, the very ones you don't want to hear about when it is braught up, we the fem presenting population often need the masculine presenting side to correct the behaviors and share in letting men women are in danger around, know it is unacceptable, because their heads are so far up their ass that rather then want to understand their behaviors are wrong, they are so narcissistic that they blame all women for not accepting them, when it is their behavior that keeps the women away. And understand those ones, that perpetually remain single because this is how they are, are left with no other option than contacting providers, but still carry those same dangerous and nasty tendencies to us as well. Just because we are providers, doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat us badly. They treat "respectable" women poorly, how do you think they aim to treat us when they have us alone.

No not all clients are like that. Most we see are pretty amazing, I adore my regulars, they are some pretty amazing men, and sometimes I wonder how it is they stay single. But doesn't change that I get disrespectful inquiries every day, while inquiries I accept happen once every few days.

 

[jeffmathers]

We get your point... you don't want to hear that there is a dangerous side of this job. You want your fantasy that this is a blessing to do this and we all have great expieriences and should love what we do...

Please understand the ones we comment on in the negative, are rarely the hobbyists we actually see. These are the men who throw up so many red flags before even getting to a booking, that we aren't complaining about our clients, but the potential clients who we refuse to see.

Now a point I have made to my master before as well... You know your friends as you see them when they are with their bros, they are charismatic, fun, a bros bro. You are in denial that that same man who is cool with you, can have an ax to grind about how their relationships have been, and though you see a good guy, their views on women and how they treat them can be very different when they are alone with a woman behind closed doors.
I have warned many clients in the past about vouching for the character of their friend. That I have had such bad expieriences in cases where a client I liked vouched for a friend, and the expierience with their friend went poorly enough I fired the orrigional client as well because the expierience tainted my ability to enjoy the original any longer.

You don't like hearing the truth of the darker side of this world, but we live it, and unfortunately, the very ones you don't want to hear about when it is braught up, we the fem presenting population often need the masculine presenting side to correct the behaviors and share in letting men women are in danger around, know it is unacceptable, because their heads are so far up their ass that rather then want to understand their behaviors are wrong, they are so narcissistic that they blame all women for not accepting them, when it is their behavior that keeps the women away. And understand those ones, that perpetually remain single because this is how they are, are left with no other option than contacting providers, but still carry those same dangerous and nasty tendencies to us as well. Just because we are providers, doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat us badly. They treat "respectable" women poorly, how do you think they aim to treat us when they have us alone.

No not all clients are like that. Most we see are pretty amazing, I adore my regulars, they are some pretty amazing men, and sometimes I wonder how it is they stay single. But doesn't change that I get disrespectful inquiries every day, while inquiries I accept happen once every few days.

I wish people read what you, Luna, and other SPs type. All of you are well spoken and articulate yourselves well but I feel people are somehow not understanding. I hope things get better for you all.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

I hope things get better for you all.

I really think we’ve never had better conditions to do this work than we do now. But there's still work to do, a lot.

 

[Rebaynia]

I wish people read what you, Luna, and other SPs type. All of you are well spoken and articulate yourselves well but I feel people are somehow not understanding. I hope things get better for you all.

Oh I agree. I will also admit, because of how media presents us, and what I have witnessed some people treat & talk about providers, I had trouble accepting in myself that this was something I wanted and needed in my life to feel fulfilled. It has only been since I have had the pleasure of meeting others like Luna, Julia, and more, that I have grown proud to be a provider, because I see such amazing, intelligent and quality people.

 

[Fradi]

We get your point... you don't want to hear that there is a dangerous side of this job. You want your fantasy that this is a blessing to do this and we all have great expieriences and should love what we do...

Please understand the ones we comment on in the negative, are rarely the hobbyists we actually see. These are the men who throw up so many red flags before even getting to a booking, that we aren't complaining about our clients, but the potential clients who we refuse to see.

Now a point I have made to my master before as well... You know your friends as you see them when they are with their bros, they are charismatic, fun, a bros bro. You are in denial that that same man who is cool with you, can have an ax to grind about how their relationships have been, and though you see a good guy, their views on women and how they treat them can be very different when they are alone with a woman behind closed doors.
I have warned many clients in the past about vouching for the character of their friend. That I have had such bad expieriences in cases where a client I liked vouched for a friend, and the expierience with their friend went poorly enough I fired the orrigional client as well because the expierience tainted my ability to enjoy the original any longer.

You don't like hearing the truth of the darker side of this world, but we live it, and unfortunately, the very ones you don't want to hear about when it is braught up, we the fem presenting population often need the masculine presenting side to correct the behaviors and share in letting men women are in danger around, know it is unacceptable, because their heads are so far up their ass that rather then want to understand their behaviors are wrong, they are so narcissistic that they blame all women for not accepting them, when it is their behavior that keeps the women away. And understand those ones, that perpetually remain single because this is how they are, are left with no other option than contacting providers, but still carry those same dangerous and nasty tendencies to us as well. Just because we are providers, doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat us badly. They treat "respectable" women poorly, how do you think they aim to treat us when they have us alone.

No not all clients are like that. Most we see are pretty amazing, I adore my regulars, they are some pretty amazing men, and sometimes I wonder how it is they stay single. But doesn't change that I get disrespectful inquiries every day, while inquiries I accept happen once every few days.

I have one advice only.
If it is so bad and so dangerous do something else like millions of other women do.
We all know that there are men and women who are dangerous in this business exist, continually harping on it in every thread does nothing to change that.
Nobody said it is acceptable behaviour and nobody is condoning it that however is not going to change anything just like continually bashing men will not either.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I have one advice only.
If it is so bad and so dangerous do something else like millions of other women do.
We all know that there are men and women who are dangerous in this business exist, continually harping on it in every thread does nothing to change that.
Nobody said it is acceptable behaviour and nobody is condoning it that however is not going to change anything just like continually bashing men will not either

Nobody here is bashing men. That's what you don't understand. We're not bashing men in general we're just discussing clients who are disrespectful and you're taking that personally because you think we're talking about all men, and we aren't.

Advising us to do something else also isn't helpful. I said many times I love my job. I don't feel in danger because I protect myself.