Seeking - sugar babies
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2 reasons I can think of:
1-a good SB is not really "shared" amongst men. Not in my experience anyway, as my last arrangement was fairly exclusive and long term
2-SB tend to be flaky, flashes in the pan. A good prospective profile pops up a week before rent is due, she finds a willing SD, gets her rent, disappears never to be seen again
1-a good SB is not really "shared" amongst men. Not in my experience anyway, as my last arrangement was fairly exclusive and long term
2-SB tend to be flaky, flashes in the pan. A good prospective profile pops up a week before rent is due, she finds a willing SD, gets her rent, disappears never to be seen again
Hear you biggie. Been very active myself on that site but getting tired of the now shows and the ones that want 5 dates before holding hands so looking for shortcuts lol.
If there is a shortcut Ive not found it! The trend here lately is a virtual relationship to get to know each other until meeting in person.
I dont play that "pictures for Venmo" game, but I'm sure a lot of guys do fall for it.
Contrary to SWs, who do it for a living, SBs see a very limited number of men, or sometimes wait for one that they really like. They can afford to be picky, because for most it's just a hobby or a way to get extra cash. SO even if I were to review a SB and she is still on the site and available, chances are, she would not date the people that approach her
Really? Check the interview done by Sonia. At some point she had 10 sugar daddy’s at the same time
I would like to know as well. Kinda like : sugar baby name :ABC phone ending with 7890 & review.
More choice for MERBites and SB because the reviews here are trustworthy. More "income opportunities" for the SB.
1. We don't have to scroll thru 100's of ads on Seeking to find the "right one"
2. Money goes to a good cause for SB. Student / single mom paying rent, groceries, etc...
3. Back up plan in case all the escorts are booked. Ex: during Grand-Prix
4. You're happy, she's happy as well.
Sum up, if MERBites can vouch for a SB here(reviews), I'm sure a lot of us can appreciate.
Unfortunately, many of us "looking", not many of them SB "the right one"
More choice for MERBites and SB because the reviews here are trustworthy. More "income opportunities" for the SB.
1. We don't have to scroll thru 100's of ads on Seeking to find the "right one"
2. Money goes to a good cause for SB. Student / single mom paying rent, groceries, etc...
3. Back up plan in case all the escorts are booked. Ex: during Grand-Prix
4. You're happy, she's happy as well.
Sum up, if MERBites can vouch for a SB here(reviews), I'm sure a lot of us can appreciate.
Unfortunately, many of us "looking", not many of them SB "the right one"
You’re right: I should not have generalized.
What interview?
It is all about exclusivity lol.
My personal experience with the whole Seeking/SB thing is that it's all the work of regular dating with the same reward structure of getting down to business with an SP. Might as well cut out the middle man and just see an SP.
The impression that a SB is an exclusive relationship is an illusion. As Flyingby excellently pointed out, the SBs are basically SPs--you're just taking them to dinner a few times before you get to the SP portion of the relationship.
The impression that a SB is an exclusive relationship is an illusion. As Flyingby excellently pointed out, the SBs are basically SPs--you're just taking them to dinner a few times before you get to the SP portion of the relationship.
Does a SD see his SB often ? If its once a month, 10 is cool i think ! even twice a month would be reasonable in my opinion. It gets complicated if they want weekly/daily meentings hahah
I have been on seeking for 3 years and yes it does take alot of work with communication and negotiating. But there are gems. For instance I saw a girl for a year during the pandemic and we would have biweekly meet ups for 200 dollars for 2 SOG, way cheaper than an SP in USA. Currently I am seeing a girl once a week or two weeks, we do car meet ups for 100 dollars. Not bad for us both. There are still SB who want 800-1000 per meet up but if you put in the effort you can find gems. Also a tip that I find, that works out, try looking in areas that are very wealthy. Usually these areas have nannies or au pair that are hired internationally. Since they are being sponsored by the family, they only get 150-200 dollars per week for working 40 hours. These SB are usually willing to do weekly meet ups at a cheaper price.
I think that if you live in certain areas of the USA there are realistically no other viable options that are safe and get you something better than a cracked out SW.
I have been on Seeking Arrangement for 7 years and pretty much it's been my exclusive way of meeting ladies in the last 4 years. I have had good success with it but it's a huge time commitment. Just as with SPs, there are hits and misses. One thing I should warn all of you about is that while most trans gender women disclose their gender identity in their profiles, some do not. I did get snookered by one and she sure looked like a very attractive woman to me. Things advanced to a second date but at this point (1) I learned "her" first name which is both unusual and gender neutral, and her home town and then (2) I did a Google search after the date, found a newspaper article on "her" when she was a high school senior. In 2018. She was a he back then and apparently had a sex change between 2018 and 2021. I was shocked, although on the second date there were some clues, such as her/his undue interest in our gay waiter's story about his Drag Queen exploits when off duty. I thought she was being nice but it was more than that.
Maybe my Gay-dar sucks but she looked 100% female to me, and I suspect that 90% of MERBistes would have been similarly snookered. I am just glad things didn't go further than a kiss on the cheek. I am shuddering thinking about almost having a Crying Game situation like Forest Whitaker. Although I presume that a post op transsexual has female equipment that doesn't look natural. I don't frankly understand how you cut off penis and balls and end up with clitoris and vagina, but I have to imagine the end result doesn't look the same as a natural born female's equipment.
Anyway I had many other adventures with Seeking Arrangement but also great results and didn't spend a ton of money. Anyone who draws simplistic conclusions doesn't understand that it's a massive population on that site - all demographics are represented - and if you think that all the women are out of your price range or more than an SP, then it's flat ignorant, stupid, uneducated thinking. The women on there are all over the board on price and looks and sexual ability. But here is a major news flash: THEY HAVE FACIAL and BODY PICS SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING. Plus I have done video calls with some girls before seeing them. Do you ever have that before seeing an SP? In most cases no facial pics and no chance to talk to and video chat screen them before spending a cent. Which matters to me. There are also many girls on there who live by the code no sex on the first date, and it's because they want to get comfortable with someone and determine they aren't a creep before jumping in bed. Which is fine if that is their code.
A lot of posts in this thread by people who have never been on SA are beyond ignorant. I have been on probably 100-150 SA dates over 7 years and the conclusions that are drawn in this thread are not conclusions I would draw. It's all over the board, plain and simple, and there is something for everyone if you have the time and energy to look for it. On that note, SA does require a time commitment. If you view it as a dating game then it will serve you well because you try to play any game the right way. It's almost like playing Jeopardy, there are rules, strategies etc. that you learn and apply. And your success rate improves when you do.
I have been on Seeking Arrangement for 7 years and pretty much it's been my exclusive way of meeting ladies in the last 4 years. I have had good success with it but it's a huge time commitment. Just as with SPs, there are hits and misses. One thing I should warn all of you about is that while most trans gender women disclose their gender identity in their profiles, some do not. I did get snookered by one and she sure looked like a very attractive woman to me. Things advanced to a second date but at this point (1) I learned "her" first name which is both unusual and gender neutral, and her home town and then (2) I did a Google search after the date, found a newspaper article on "her" when she was a high school senior. In 2018. She was a he back then and apparently had a sex change between 2018 and 2021. I was shocked, although on the second date there were some clues, such as her/his undue interest in our gay waiter's story about his Drag Queen exploits when off duty. I thought she was being nice but it was more than that.
Maybe my Gay-dar sucks but she looked 100% female to me, and I suspect that 90% of MERBistes would have been similarly snookered. I am just glad things didn't go further than a kiss on the cheek. I am shuddering thinking about almost having a Crying Game situation like Forest Whitaker. Although I presume that a post op transsexual has female equipment that doesn't look natural. I don't frankly understand how you cut off penis and balls and end up with clitoris and vagina, but I have to imagine the end result doesn't look the same as a natural born female's equipment.
Anyway I had many other adventures with Seeking Arrangement but also great results and didn't spend a ton of money. Anyone who draws simplistic conclusions doesn't understand that it's a massive population on that site - all demographics are represented - and if you think that all the women are out of your price range or more than an SP, then it's flat ignorant, stupid, uneducated thinking. The women on there are all over the board on price and looks and sexual ability. But here is a major news flash: THEY HAVE FACIAL and BODY PICS SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING. Plus I have done video calls with some girls before seeing them. Do you ever have that before seeing an SP? In most cases no facial pics and no chance to talk to and video chat screen them before spending a cent. Which matters to me. There are also many girls on there who live by the code no sex on the first date, and it's because they want to get comfortable with someone and determine they aren't a creep before jumping in bed. Which is fine if that is their code.
A lot of posts in this thread by people who have never been on SA are beyond ignorant. I have been on probably 100-150 SA dates over 7 years and the conclusions that are drawn in this thread are not conclusions I would draw. It's all over the board, plain and simple, and there is something for everyone if you have the time and energy to look for it. On that note, SA does require a time commitment. If you view it as a dating game then it will serve you well because you try to play any game the right way. It's almost like playing Jeopardy, there are rules, strategies etc. that you learn and apply. And your success rate improves when you do.
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By the way do any of you guys have any fucking clue about the financial situations of your average 18-23 female college students in the United States, especially those who are minorities? These women are crushed with debt which includes college tuition of up to $50,000 per year, phone bills, car payments, some are also supporting themselves and in some cases a kid or kids, some are working 2 or even 3 jobs as well as being full time students and need something extra-anything. Many of these women are in completely hopeless financial situations, particularly minority women, many of whom get little or no help from their families. A lot of these women have pride and are very strong in the face of a great financial struggle, but they also see SA as a chance to have some fun and get paid for it. And as long as they are comfortable with you and you can keep them entertained they all understand the quid pro quo. It's really at this point a very accepted quid pro quo, even in the USA with most women and especially minority women from my experiences.
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Over the past year I’ve seen both Agency escorts and “seeking” ladies. Always on an outcall basis.
I’ve used 4 different agencies and seen 10 different escorts. Three of the escorts I’ve seen multiple times and the others only once. Almost always one hour sessions for $240-260 per hour. I’ve been very satisfied by the agencies and the girls they provide. And surprised by how nice these young ladies are.
I joined seeking for a month back in February for the first time. In my profile I let the ladies know that I was fairly old and wasn’t interested in a “girlfriend” relationship. That I wasn’t interested in taking anyone out to dinner or going to see a play or to visit a museum with them. That I was only interested in 2 1/2- 3 hour afternoon meetings at my condo. This ensured that anyone who messaged me had a pretty good idea of what I was looking for.
And yes it does take a lot of work to winnow the potential field down. Messages on seeking, then text messages off site. Back and forth, back and forth. And now I always insist that we have some sort of video call before any meeting. Those who won’t agree to a video chat I drop immediately. And in a 20 to 30 minute video call both parties can learn a heck of a lot about each other and exactly what the expectations are of each party. This allows our first in person meeting to proceed directly to what each of us is looking for. I’ve had full SP service on my first meeting with the three girls I mention below.
In February I met a really nice girl, a McGill student and had a very enjoyable time with her. Both conversation and a great time in bed. Worried about Covid back then we didn’t continue. I also joined for a month in June and again in September
In June I was scammed by a young lady (I hadn’t video chatted with her before - my fault). But then almost immediately I found another beautiful young girl who I’ve seen on and off ever since - maybe 7 times over the last ten weeks. She lives with her boyfriend and he knows all about her SB life. I am not exclusive with her - she’s told me she’s also been meeting another SD from time to time. After three months I know a lot about her. I like her. And hopefully will continue with her.
And when I joined again in September I found another woman who I’ve only met once but who I feel may turn out to be a regular over the next couple of months. I had a very enjoyable afternoon with her. A fun, sexy and nice woman.
Both of the girls I’m seeing now have full time jobs. And busy interesting lives. Both 10’s looks wise and both in their twenties. Unlike escorts with a SB you get a real chance to know the person. You get to know their names, where they live, what music they like, their history. You can offer them your experience on a variety of fronts in exchange for a glimpse into the life and thoughts of a much younger generation. It’s a completely different type of relationship than what you get from an escort. You don’t have to rush. You have time for conversation. A chance to laugh and joke. To explore each other’s life - both sexually and in every other way.
So which is better - Escort or Sugar Baby?
Escorts are great and I really enjoy meeting them. I really love the variety and the quality that these hard working young women provide. One phone call and an hour later you are provided with a high quality service from pretty and very talented ladies. A direct, enjoyable sexual experience. I will continue to use them.
Sugar Babies are a challenge. Just finding one out of the potential hundreds advertising takes a lot of work. But fortunately I enjoy that part of the exercise almost as much as what may follow. I find the game great fun. And in my case I have been lucky. I’ve been fortunate to be able to spend really fun afternoons with intelligent, beautiful and sexy ladies. And I will continue to see these ladies too.
The big advantage SB’s have over Escorts is that you can contact them directly and arrange meetings easily. And that you are her only customer that day. With escorts you have to go through the agency and hope the girl you want is working that day and not already booked. And that if you meet her that she hasn’t already been with three other men before you earlier in the day.
As to cost: I pay escorts around $250 for one hour. I pay SB ‘s $450 - 500 for 2 1/2 - 3 hours.
To me they provide two completely different services and experiences. Both of which I enjoy and I will continue to use both. What the heck - I’m retired and have lots of free time!
I’ve used 4 different agencies and seen 10 different escorts. Three of the escorts I’ve seen multiple times and the others only once. Almost always one hour sessions for $240-260 per hour. I’ve been very satisfied by the agencies and the girls they provide. And surprised by how nice these young ladies are.
I joined seeking for a month back in February for the first time. In my profile I let the ladies know that I was fairly old and wasn’t interested in a “girlfriend” relationship. That I wasn’t interested in taking anyone out to dinner or going to see a play or to visit a museum with them. That I was only interested in 2 1/2- 3 hour afternoon meetings at my condo. This ensured that anyone who messaged me had a pretty good idea of what I was looking for.
And yes it does take a lot of work to winnow the potential field down. Messages on seeking, then text messages off site. Back and forth, back and forth. And now I always insist that we have some sort of video call before any meeting. Those who won’t agree to a video chat I drop immediately. And in a 20 to 30 minute video call both parties can learn a heck of a lot about each other and exactly what the expectations are of each party. This allows our first in person meeting to proceed directly to what each of us is looking for. I’ve had full SP service on my first meeting with the three girls I mention below.
In February I met a really nice girl, a McGill student and had a very enjoyable time with her. Both conversation and a great time in bed. Worried about Covid back then we didn’t continue. I also joined for a month in June and again in September
In June I was scammed by a young lady (I hadn’t video chatted with her before - my fault). But then almost immediately I found another beautiful young girl who I’ve seen on and off ever since - maybe 7 times over the last ten weeks. She lives with her boyfriend and he knows all about her SB life. I am not exclusive with her - she’s told me she’s also been meeting another SD from time to time. After three months I know a lot about her. I like her. And hopefully will continue with her.
And when I joined again in September I found another woman who I’ve only met once but who I feel may turn out to be a regular over the next couple of months. I had a very enjoyable afternoon with her. A fun, sexy and nice woman.
Both of the girls I’m seeing now have full time jobs. And busy interesting lives. Both 10’s looks wise and both in their twenties. Unlike escorts with a SB you get a real chance to know the person. You get to know their names, where they live, what music they like, their history. You can offer them your experience on a variety of fronts in exchange for a glimpse into the life and thoughts of a much younger generation. It’s a completely different type of relationship than what you get from an escort. You don’t have to rush. You have time for conversation. A chance to laugh and joke. To explore each other’s life - both sexually and in every other way.
So which is better - Escort or Sugar Baby?
Escorts are great and I really enjoy meeting them. I really love the variety and the quality that these hard working young women provide. One phone call and an hour later you are provided with a high quality service from pretty and very talented ladies. A direct, enjoyable sexual experience. I will continue to use them.
Sugar Babies are a challenge. Just finding one out of the potential hundreds advertising takes a lot of work. But fortunately I enjoy that part of the exercise almost as much as what may follow. I find the game great fun. And in my case I have been lucky. I’ve been fortunate to be able to spend really fun afternoons with intelligent, beautiful and sexy ladies. And I will continue to see these ladies too.
The big advantage SB’s have over Escorts is that you can contact them directly and arrange meetings easily. And that you are her only customer that day. With escorts you have to go through the agency and hope the girl you want is working that day and not already booked. And that if you meet her that she hasn’t already been with three other men before you earlier in the day.
As to cost: I pay escorts around $250 for one hour. I pay SB ‘s $450 - 500 for 2 1/2 - 3 hours.
To me they provide two completely different services and experiences. Both of which I enjoy and I will continue to use both. What the heck - I’m retired and have lots of free time!
Good post Titlova. I totally agree with you about the importance of using the video call function to screen SBs but let me add many girls I met recently insisted on it. It's on SA to filter out scammers and it works for both side of the transaction. I will say that one girl I video called I could see her face but not really her body. She had a nice face and looked like a potential keeper but she was one and done as far as dates because she had a soft and doughy body which I do not like to see in a 26 year old. Anyway she didn't have body pics in her profile and on the video chat, I could only see her from shoulders up, and the issues with her body existed in her midsection. But between pics and video calling, the ability to screen SBs as opposed to escorts is so superior it is laughable, and it's worth it to pay a little more so you don't get skunked with a one and done date. Meanwhile how many one and done reviews do you read on MERB, tons, and it's because these guys don't have the same informational tools available to them in the escort scene. They roll dice and are left to hope for the best. These same guys don't factor the money they are wasting and blowing on one and done dates which could be much more carefully invested in the modern technology used in a targeted screening of well suited SBs as well mentioned in your post. You can hunt so you speak with a telescope. And yes I too got burned when I didn't Video call, and it's on me. But the truth is more SBs now insist on Video Calls and it's an excellent screening tool, but one that the escort clients are simply unable to use as that screening method simply isn't part of that scene. And it is to the harsh detriment of the client.
All of the above being said, a Video Call wouldn't have spared me from that tranny. She fooled me into a second date. Where I found her out was when she spilled her personal info to me on the second date and I did internet searches on her using that info. I don't understand why she didn't disclose that she was TS in her profile. Seems unethical to me but I may have been a test to see how far she could go before being busted on that info. I am not complaining to SA about her, prefer to just quietly move on with no drama. Lessons learned on that one.
All of the above being said, a Video Call wouldn't have spared me from that tranny. She fooled me into a second date. Where I found her out was when she spilled her personal info to me on the second date and I did internet searches on her using that info. I don't understand why she didn't disclose that she was TS in her profile. Seems unethical to me but I may have been a test to see how far she could go before being busted on that info. I am not complaining to SA about her, prefer to just quietly move on with no drama. Lessons learned on that one.
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An escort whom I had been seeing regularly told me that she was quitting her agency and asked to continue our acquaintance. I suppose I was lucky in finding a sugar baby without having to bother screening, bargaining, having to pay for platonic encounters and already knowing we were compatible in and out of bed. I haven't reviewed much here as I rarely saw anybody else during the last 5 years.
As our relationship recently ended, I enrolled a week ago in the seek... website. The very first woman I messaged met me for sex, but will not become the regular I seek. The third asked for a meeting for coffee and an honorarium, but it became obvious that she met only for the small fee and never wanted anything more. I'm getting "favorited" and messaged often. Half the time it is from women from poor countries far from home, but the rest are potential immediate matches. There are a few who demand money immediately to talk online or shopping trips or perpetually platonic relationships. Good luck to them! I suppose that a tiny percentage among them do find such altruists. I would rather give charity to the starving.
I have found that most women I have met through the Montreal agencies have pretty faces or beautiful bodies or are interesting conversationalists, but rarely all three. Through the profiles, it is relatively easy to find women who satisfy all three criteria. They do seem to care about my appearance, occupation and ability to converse, not only the remuneration.
As our relationship recently ended, I enrolled a week ago in the seek... website. The very first woman I messaged met me for sex, but will not become the regular I seek. The third asked for a meeting for coffee and an honorarium, but it became obvious that she met only for the small fee and never wanted anything more. I'm getting "favorited" and messaged often. Half the time it is from women from poor countries far from home, but the rest are potential immediate matches. There are a few who demand money immediately to talk online or shopping trips or perpetually platonic relationships. Good luck to them! I suppose that a tiny percentage among them do find such altruists. I would rather give charity to the starving.
I have found that most women I have met through the Montreal agencies have pretty faces or beautiful bodies or are interesting conversationalists, but rarely all three. Through the profiles, it is relatively easy to find women who satisfy all three criteria. They do seem to care about my appearance, occupation and ability to converse, not only the remuneration.
I totally agree with the last 3 posts. On my visits to Montreal, I use both agency girls and SBs - they are totally different experiences, but both enjoyable - although my "A" experiences are more likely with SBs than the random chance with agency girls. Good thing that I like petite young spinners, the Montreal specialty (try finding them in Toronto - much, much harder).
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