sexuality between cousin/sexualite entre cousin

[CLAVIE]

I'm in love with my cousin, her mother is the sister of my father. Her family wanted me to marry her. My family has left my own choice but insisted that I reflect on the disease pathology risk, have an abnormal child.

I'd like someone help me to get information and how we do to avoid it ?


thank you!

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Je suis amoureur de ma cousine, sa mere est la soeur de mon pere. Sa famille est voulu que je l'epouse. Ma famille a laisse mon propre choix et insiste que je reflechis sur le risque pathologie, avoir un enfant anormal.

J'aimerai qqn m'eclaicisse le sujet et comment faire afin d'eviter le risque ?


merci !

 

[anon_vlad]

Since there are already too many city of Montreal employees and Quebec civil service "workers", marry her and adopt. Alternatively, create children with either only her eggs or only your sperm.

 

[Mike Mercury]

European royalty & wealthy people often married between first cousins.
This practice is still often done in India, Pakistan and other places where marriages arranged by the parents is a tradition.
As for chances of getting sick children. Genecists will tell you that unless you come from a village of inbred people chances are everything will be fine.

However, personally, I would not have sexual intercourse with a cousin.

 

[naughtylady]

My grandparents were first cousins: no genetic problems.

See your doctor about health risks and recessive genes. (Why ask here? It is not as if were a bunch of health practitioners specializing in genetics!)

Personally,I would not worry too much. There is so little love in this world, if you found, hold on to it and treat it as the precious thing that it is.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[Techman]

European royalty & wealthy people often married between first cousins.
This practice is still often done in India, Pakistan and other places where marriages arranged by the parents is a tradition.
As for chances of getting sick children. Genecists will tell you that unless you come from a village of inbred people chances are everything will be fine.

However, personally, I would not have sexual intercourse with a cousin.

What if she looked like Megan Fox?

http://angelfiles.net/pics/images/Nemesis/f3yk6kg9ymf.gif

 

[Luvs-mssgs]

I'm in love with my cousin, her mother is the sister of my father. Her family wanted me to marry her. My family has left my own choice but insisted that I reflect on the disease pathology risk, have an abnormal child. I'd like someone help me to get information and how we do to avoid it

As long as you don't mind getting your facts from the Internet:
http://www.cousincouples.com/
http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=facts
Seems to be a fairly common practice.

For scientific analysis see: UK Human genetics Comisssion
http://www.hgc.gov.uk/client/Content.asp?ContentId=741
«The absolute risk to first cousins having a child with a recessive genetic condition is about three in every 100 births, unless they have a family history of an autosomal recessive disorder, in which case the risk may be higher. When we also include the background risk of having a child with any type of congenital or genetic disorder, which applies in every pregnancy, the overall risk to first cousins rises to about six in every 100 births, i.e. double the risk in the general population. The great majority of pregnancies do not result in abnormalities. »
«In order to further contextualise this risk, the Genetic Interest Group (GIG) have made a useful comparison with another risk factor during pregnancy: increased maternal age. According to GIG, the effect of increased maternal age on the rate of Down syndrome, a specific type of chromosomal abnormality, can be compared with the increased risk posed by consanguinity. At 35 years of age, the risk of Down syndrome is four times that at age 25 and increases 15 times by the age of 40. The absolute risk at 40 years is one in every 100 births. »

 

[panthere]

hi

What if she looked like Megan Fox?

http://angelfiles.net/pics/images/Nemesis/f3yk6kg9ymf.gif

i marry her right there

 

[Merlot]

Hello all,

http://nepaliaashish.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/human-inbreeding-what-are-the-consequences/

.......continued

A study investigating the effects of inbreeding on the fertility of adult women demonstrated that deleterious recessive alleles received from inbreeding can lower the fertility rates of adult woman. Another study investigated five effects of inbreeding: the fertility of the marriages, the mortality of the offspring, the morbidity of the offspring, the reproductive performance of the offspring, and the characteristics of the offspring. In thus study, unlike the previous study, inbreeding did not have an adverse effect on the fertility of the marriages; however, results showed that inbreeding significantly increases childhood mortality in the first year of life, increases morbidity, and significantly increases numbers of disabled offspring. Moreover, development also seemed to be affected by inbreeding for “the children of consanguineous marriages were significantly older than the control group when they first walked and talked.” However, inbreeding seemed to be beneficial when examining some aspects of health. Offspring from the inbreeding group showed a 14.3% decrease in allergies and a 23.9% decrease in nephritis, a rare genetic disorder that causes inflammation of the kidneys.

While there are some studies in the area so human inbreeding, more studies are required to scientifically conclude the effects of inbreeding.

I have never considered this possibility, though I wondered about the actions and behavior of one cousin. Another was very beautiful, but the only thought was, too bad she's my cousin. All fantasies and impulses about Megan Fox and truly her magnificent ass aside ( thanks Techman, you teasing bastard...lol ), the prospect of marrying a cousin is uncomfortable at best. And, I know of no cousins in my family who ever got married. However I do know a guy who dated his fourth cousin intimately and intensely until he discovered she was already nuts.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[master_bates]

marry her and adopt. Alternatively, create children with either only her eggs or only your sperm.

I agree

Love is very hard to find nowadays and if you love her then you should be

together but I wouldnt risk having unhealthy kids. You can adopt or other

ways thanks to technology like anon_vlad has mentionned.

Best of luck

 

[metoo4]

Get tested to ensure no defectives genes will meet. It there's any, find a way so you won't procreate but in any cases, don't let the "cousin thing" stop you from loving her.

 

[Leyenda]

hum...j'voudrais ben <<faire de quoi>> avec 2-3 de mes cousines (si ça sferrait)...mais tomber en amour ?!? au Premier degré en plus...po sur moi.

 

[Bucky]

Since there are already too many city of Montreal employees and Quebec civil service "workers", marry her and adopt. Alternatively, create children with either only her eggs or only your sperm.

You really are a morron, it's people like you who make our jobs worth the pay

 

[fb1807]

Follow your heart

I loved 5 women in my 50 years and only managed to live with one for 8 years. If you have the chance to be with someone you truly love then do it and do not worry about it being wrong.

Te Bible itself is full of inter family sex, and God seemed to approve back then and I don't think he changes his rules at all, but the churches do regularly.

As far as the in-breeding risk, that is a statistical lie and anyone who bred animals will tell you that its done often and with no noticeable birth defects.

For example, Iceland saw half of its population wiped out with the Black Plague, and the remaining in-breeding has made them Black Plague immune to this day and they have no more birth defects than we do.

Driving at 120 vs 100 quaduples the risk of having an accident, but does not mean all people who drive at 120 will eventually crash. Same thing with risk of birth defects, doubling the risk is like buying two lottery tickets, it does not really double your chances of winning.

Cheers and enjoy

 

[metoo4]

fb1807, what planet are you from?

You say "no noticeable signs in animals? What about some dogs who are known to have breathing problems? Think about bulldogs? They were bread for these traits yet, it's a defect on an evolution standpoint. Most farm animals don't live old enough so we can detect long term effect of the inbreeding. Also, a defect doesn't need to be visible to be present. Have you given IQ test to any inbread animals likely?

Your example about Iceland prove exactly what you are trying to deny: the inbreeding caused a characteristic to become evident. What if that characteristic was bad?

You need proof: The Saguenay region in Québec. Remote area almost cut from the rest of the country for a while, where it's quite easy to find a family link somewhere down a few generation between peoples alive today. Guess what? An abnormally high occurence of genetical defects causing various problems. Peoples from Saguenay are as intelligent as everybody else but, somewhere in some of their ancesters' genes there was "something wrong" and some ancesters with that "something wrong" married somebody with the same "defect" and passed the genes to their children, who sometimes also married peoples who also had some "wrong" genes...

Genetic causes good things and bad things. If you have 2 perfect humans, even brother and sister, who have a kid, the chances are the kid will be ok. If the kid have a kid with somebody who's perfect, still no problems... Some genetic defects even skip a generation! Think of dwarfs. Totally normal peoples beside their size and the accompanying troubles. 2 dwarfs can have normal kids but these kids will carry the defective gene and will likely pass it to their kids too.

The thing is, nobody has a label stating "perfect genetic pool" and most, if not all of us have some genetic flaws. Some flaws are inconsequential to us but, when combined with the same flaws from somebody else, they will appear. That's why I say they should get tested. It's not something to leave to chance and certainely not something to deny and push away with some "magical thinking".

 

[Luvs-mssgs]

What if that characteristic was bad?

You need proof: The Saguenay region in Québec. Remote area almost cut from the rest of the country for a while, where it's quite easy to find a family link somewhere down a few generation between peoples alive today. Guess what? An abnormally high occurence of genetical defects causing various problems. Peoples from Saguenay are as intelligent as everybody else but, somewhere in some of their ancesters' genes there was "something wrong" and some ancesters with that "something wrong" married somebody with the same "defect" and passed the genes to their children, who sometimes also married peoples who also had some "wrong" genes....

This statement is FALSE. The genetic anomaly rate in the Saguenay is just the same as anywhere else. It is the prevalence of one specific genetic anomaly that is higher. (SACS (spastic ataxia of Charlevoix-Saguenay (or sacsin)). Some diseases are more prevalent in some populations, (blacks, asians, caucasians, ashkenaze...) and others are almost absent from some population (blacks, asians, caucasians, ashkenaze, ...) Like fb1807 pointed out, specific genetic advantages or disadvantages are not evenly distributed, but statistical genetic advantages or disadvantages are quite evenly distributed. Marrying a cousin and having children statistically augments these factors, both negative and positive, by about 2%, according to the UK Human genetics Comisssion.

Don't let statistics ruin your love !!!!

 

[Porter]

The real problem is that we do not have the statistical formulation and the sample rates nor at what deviation is the formulation calculated.

What is the baseline and how is the comparative studied.

We are brainwashed by numbers.

In relation to the former question, man just do what feels right for you and enjoy your life.

To hell with stats and risk analysis its bogus!!

 

[naughtylady]

Like I said go see your family doctor. He/She will know your medical history and will know what to look out for. We are not genetic specialists here... at least I am not.

Rather than look to anecdotal evidence or statistics of unknown reliability, your doctor will be able to guide you, as he/she will know whether you have a family history of cancer, diabetes, heart disease, or whatever and whether or not this would be of concern should you have children with your first cousin.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady