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jalimon

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She made Apple changed their rules.... I would no fuck up with the girl haha I would not touch her with a long pole vault!

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Two sides to this.

She does seem like a decent person. Not lowlife trash like so many current celebrities. She would not make a frivolous complaint since she does not need money or publicity. Testifying at this trial is probably costing her a huge amount of money because it is taking her away from her actual job.

On the other hand this was at a public function. How was it not caught on camera? Her security did not see it?

Maybe she intentionally let it go at the time so as not to disrupt the event?
 

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There is a pic on the Internet of the guy posed with her and looks like his hand is on her ass but can't tell for sure. I will see if I can find and post it.
 

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Can't tell to be 100% sure but that pic does make him look pretty bad. EB, I know the burden of proof is much lower in civil cases compared to criminal ones so taking that into account, how do you think this case is going to turn out?
 

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This looks like a slam dunk win for Taylor Swift. The guy clearly has his hand at Taylor's ass level. He will certainly lose his $3 million suit against Taylor. Taylor only needs to prove that it is more likely than not (a preponderence of the evidence) that the guy grabbed her ass. Given her credibility and the photo, that's pretty much a given. Also, she is only countersuing for $1. The only issue I had was whether or not the ass cheeks or buttocks were considered prohibited sexual contact under Colorado law. But, Colorado law includes grabbing the buttocks as prohibited sexual contact. https://www.colorado-criminal-law.c...uide/colorado-law-unlawful-sexual-contact.htm Has anyone noticed how hot this guy's girlfriend is? I bet she took off or if she is still around she will take off as soon as he loses the $3M judgment. I'm surprised Taylor's attorney didn't depose any of his radio show DJs. Don't you bet that he was bragging to his buddies about having his finger up Taylor's ass after the concert?
 

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Can't tell to be 100% sure but that pic does make him look pretty bad. EB, I know the burden of proof is much lower in civil cases compared to criminal ones so taking that into account, how do you think this case is going to turn out?

I really don't know but in cases like this one comes down to credibility of witnesses - it's a pure he said she said. Pic doesn't help
 

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Since it is before a jury I think she will win. She is the more sympathetic of the two and can portray herself as sincere.
The guy just looks and sounds like douchebag. Her lawyers will have him hanging himself on the stand.
There is the issue of motive. If the grope never happened she would have had no interest in causing trouble for him, much less getting him fired.
A judge alone would be more objective.
 

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On a related note, I never got "groping". How does this make anyone's day? Does someone think a grope will suddenly turn on the woman and lead to great things?

With that being said, if a hot woman grabbed my ass and said "let's go" I'd probably bowl over the Great Wall of China to follow her. But that's just me.
 

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Case dismissed! It never made it to trial.

His suit was dismissed but the judge left intact Swift's countersuit for assault and battery, according to Reuters.

The disc jockey is lucky she only wants a dollar in damages.
 

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perhaps Trump can hire him, they seem to have things in common.

Haha good one. And now trump legal team will defend him properly so he would be safe and on top of that move on to grab their pussy.

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Case dismissed! It never made it to trial.

His suit was dismissed but the judge left intact Swift's countersuit for assault and battery, according to Reuters.

The disc jockey is lucky she only wants a dollar in damages.

This is not true. His claims against Taylor Swift were dismissed. His lawsuit against Swift's mother and the radio station promotions director continues:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/11/us/taylor-swift-trial/index.html

It's going to the jury, BTW Swift testified the guy grabbed her bare ass and the bodyguard also testified that Mueller lifted Swift's skirt up and she then moved away. None of this testimony is helpful to his case.
 

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It's unlikely she will seek collection on the judgment. That is why she asked for $1, to seek damages so she could bring the claim and make a point. You cannot file a counterclaim for damages that seeks no money.

I am not sure why his attorney did not cross examine Swift a little differently. I would have asked how he was able to grab bare ass, i.e., were there no garments underneath the skirt? The question he did ask was stupid and comical and Swift's answer cracked my ass up.
 

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I like you intervention EB!

And by the way, she is now on a black list at the white house ;)

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The claimant lost big, no money plus he had to pay legal bills. Probably he will declare bankruptcy and twirl down the bowl never to be seen ( or heard from ) again.
 

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I assumed he was able to grab bare ass under her skirt because she was wearing a thong. I assumed that much was obvious. An SP told me back in the day she stopped wearing very short dresses when clubbing because some times guys lift them up and a thong does not really hide much.
 
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