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volvo2006

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I wonder how many of you are aware of the new secret surveillance agents program that has recently emerged in the U.S., Canada, Europe, and Asia. The striking thing about it is that the surveillance agents use funny gadgets. The most typical are ear phones and ipods or CD players or things of that sort. The surveillance agents walk around with these pretending to be listening to music. But they also use cell phones, lap tops, or have casts on their arms and legs pretending to have injured limbs, or they walk with canes or roll around in wheel chairs. There are bugs and cameras hidden in these, and the ipods are especially used as a communication devices. As for the surveillance agents, they range from teenagers through young adults to senior citizens, but the most notable are disgruntled males, since it is especially the economically dispossessed who would take up this job. The surveillance agents ride in metros and buses, sit in coffee houses, or just walk around the streets. These amateur "agents" don't particularly follow the targets of their surveillance, but are simply installed in every corner of the environment in which their target moves about. Although the program is supposed to be classified or things like that, it is actually widely known.

I'm telling you this because I've been under surveillance for two and a half years. At first it was RCMP, CSIS, and FBI, which did not create much of a problem for me. But since last August I have come under surveillance by the Department of Homeland Security -- no, you don't have to be someone important to come under their surveillance; I watched too much conspiracy videos, although I don't do that anymore -- and it is especially the Department of Homeland Security which use this new surveillance technique. The other agencies use "traditional" technique. But by now DHS has operations around the world.
 
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wookie

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Hmm... My opinion is that you are being paranoid... Maybe you did watch too much conspiracy theory videos afterall... but I must be an undercover agent trying to protect my secret if I say that :rolleyes:

You know, some people hear voices, and do believe they are real. Maybe you should talk to someone about all of this. But that's just my personal opinion. And I'm probably an agent so maybe you shouldn't believe me.
 

metoo4

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I was told by the guy behind me at a fast food restaurant, just last week, that I wasn't followed and he wasn't checking on me. He looked like a nice guy so I don't think he was lying but, that other guy behing the counter, the one with a headset who was talking in codes to himself, him I think was suspect... And there was the other guy outside, wearing a small headset, looking to the floor as soon as anybody was looking at him, all while mumbling... They are so dumb. They don't fool me! I spotted them immediately!

But statistically, if I catch 1-2, how many do I miss? Some of these surveillance devices are so small now... There's a pair of birds who just built a nest right beside my bedroom window... I wonder... Could they be bugged? These eggs look weird to me... The dots on them are probably holes for cameras and microphones...

Wait! Better stop typing! I noticed my neigbour can see my screen tru my window... Shit!! I'm toast! Heeellllppp....... Agghh!!!

:) :D :p
 

volvo2006

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The Department of Homeland Security learned a lot of techniques from another elite agency in the U.S. late last year. One is to use fake institutions as front. For example, there is a certain Art Institute in Santa Ana, California, that is not listed in telephone books or anything. From outside it looks like a school but deep inside is actually their operation center. I just thought that is interesting.

I know this because I've been there, but I'm not gagged or anything.
 

joelcairo

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Buffalo Springfield 1966 (Stephen Stills): "Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. it starts when you're always afraid, step out of line the man comes to take you away, so ya gotta stop hey what's that sound, everybody look what's goin' down..."
 

CaptRenault

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volvo2006 said:
I wonder how many of you are aware of the new secret surveillance agents program that has recently emerged in the U.S., Canada, Europe, and Asia...

You forgot to mention the booth cameras at the Downtown Club...I heard those are part of the program too. :D
 

z/m(Ret)

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Good thing Chris Carter did not hire Volvo2006 as a screenplay writer because the X-Files would have jumped the shark barely passed the pilot!

Video surveillance systems are not a recent thing the first ones being installed in the early 1970s to assist in road traffic management and deter bank robbers.

The cameras involved back then were quite rudimentary but nowadays many have a full 360° range of vision, fitted with zoom lenses that can read the figures on cash registers or car number plates at a distance as far as 1000 feet. Newer cameras feature sensors that trigger alarm systems when incidents occur, some are linked to video analytic softwares (with face recognition capabilities) that permit real-time alerts and create storyboards for quick and efficient reviewing.

Some critical infrastructures are being further protected with cameras hidden underground. Whenever a vehicule hits a speedbump, a picture of the undercar is captured and submited in real-time to video analytics that will almost find instantly the schematics of the car, determine the make and the year, and identify any anomaly (like a concealed package).

There's no such thing as miniature cameras concealed in ipods though I know of Sony Alarm Radios, lighters, and sunglasses that have this feature.

How I know this? Don't ask...
 

Ben Dover

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paranoia??

Several years ago I found out that an old friend of mine was consumed with "paranoid delusions" of being constanly followed by unmarked cars and undercover agents. He would see them everywhere he went and was always acting very strange (looking over his shoulder, whispering instead of talking normally etc etc)... Ultimately his family had him committed to a mental institution for 30 days to be professionally observed and diagnosed. He was a heavy drinker and used some drugs and they all though that this was combining with some sort of mental/chemical imbalance, such as schizophrenia to cause his delusions... He was also involved in some "shady" dealings...

...Anyway he was diagnosed with some type of disorder (bi-polar I believe) and given some prescriptions and then released at the end of the month.

About one week later he was driving his car (with another acquaintance of mine in the passenger seat) when he started claiming they were being followed. The car behind them was a crown vic with tinted windows and two men in the front wearing sunglasses... He started driving erratically, taking sharp turns at high speeds trying to lose them etc.. The car followed... Then, with this car close behind, he slammed on his brakes and forced a rear-end collision. The four gentlemen in the crown vic (turns out there were two in the back as well) left the scene, running in different directions on foot. Moments later an official gov't detail arrived, immediately removed the damaged crown vic, detained both guys in gov't van and sealed off the entire street. They were eventually taken to a police station where a report had already been filed by "several eye witnesses" that my friend was driving erratically and backed up into a parked car!!!

After that he supposedly moved to Europe... I never heard from or about him since.

Bottom line -- sometimes it's paranoia... Other times, you just might be onto something...

BD
 

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Roland said:
ps..that dog poop you stepped in...welll ...our new prototype.....tracking system.....
Shhh... Olfactory tracking system... did you transfer the schematics to the Russians like I asked you to?
 

emgeef

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I find that the sp are agents using my penis as a microphone.. But I make sure to keep it deep in their mouth so they can't pronounce words
 

metoo4

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emgeef said:
I find that the sp are agents using my penis as a microphone.. But I make sure to keep it deep in their mouth so they can't pronounce words
Now, THAT's a good idea! I'll try it on the next girl who don't want to deep throat! :) "Hey! You're a spy? No? Then swallow this microphone you just shoved down my dick!"

LOL!!
 

Robert 21

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WOW !

Everytime I look in the Mirror..............

I get this feeling

that someONE is watching ME





Oh, wait, my Bad..............it's ME :rolleyes:



***I always feel like somebody's watching me
And I have no privacy, whoa-oa-oa
I always feel like somebody's watching me
Tell me, is it just a dream - Rockwell***
 

docprostate

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You are funny and naive!

volvo2006 said:
... The striking thing about it is that the surveillance agents use funny gadgets. The most typical are ear phones and ipods or CD players or things of that sort.

Funny gadgets are not needed; real life is not a James Bond movie!

Agencies in US and Canada, like Homeland Security, FBI, CIA, RCMP, CSCRS, etc. can listen to you and around you using your cell-phones (even if they are not turn on) and connected home phones . This has been going on for years. In Canada, this practice has been going on since 1962, at the time using hard connected home phone.

A a multilingual listener sits in front of a screen connected to a mainframe computer and monitors up to 12 communications. These facilities are housed in anonymous buildings, they are currently 2 in Montréal. Most of the time 20-30 other peoples doing the same thing. The evidences obtained in this way cannot be use in court, unless a warrant has been emitted by a judge.
 

Turbodick

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docprostate said:
A a multilingual listener sits in front of a screen connected to a mainframe computer and monitors up to 12 communications. .

Do we have to worry about them speaking greek?
 

volvo2006

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More agency tricks

I wonder how many of you are aware of the new secret surveillance agents program that has recently emerged in the U.S., Canada, Europe, and Asia. The striking thing about it is that the surveillance agents use funny gadgets. The most typical are ear phones and ipods or CD players or things of that sort. The surveillance agents walk around with these pretending to be listening to music. But they also use cell phones, lap tops, or have casts on their arms and legs pretending to have injured limbs, or they walk with canes or roll around in wheel chairs. There are bugs and cameras hidden in these, and the ipods are especially used as a communication devices. (Don't believe the news about Apple's spectacular success in the market with its ipods; it's only a cover for the tons of surveillance agents wearing them on streets and in metros.) As for the surveillance agents, they range from teenagers through young adults to senior citizens, but the most notable are disgruntled males, since it is especially the economically dispossessed who would take up this job. The surveillance agents ride in metros and buses, sit in coffee houses, or just walk around the streets. These amateur "agents" don't particularly follow the targets of their surveillance, but are simply installed in every corner of the environment in which their target moves about. Although the program is supposed to be classified or things like that, it is actually widely known.

I'm telling you this because I've been under surveillance for two and a half years. At first it was RCMP, CSIS, and FBI, which did not create much of a problem for me. But since last August I have come under surveillance by the Department of Homeland Security -- no, you don't have to be someone important to come under their surveillance; I watched too much conspiracy videos, although I don't do that anymore -- and it is especially the Department of Homeland Security which use this new surveillance technique. The other agencies use "traditional" technique. But by now DHS has operations around the world.

I typically ran into 20 to 50 or so of these surveillance agents per day, whether it is in Los Angeles, Montreal, Asia or Europe. And I'm pretty annoyed by them -- by my life-long surveillance by DHS -- so I'm announcing this to the world in hope of exacerbating my situation.

By the way, if someone posts replies denying everything I just said, it's just DHS internet agents trying to protect their "secrets". I have had plenty of struggling with them on the internet too.

To continue my story: the Department of Homeland Security can also manipulate your internet connection; they can freeze up the google map system while you are using it, for example; they can create a fake website, say, about a hotel, and stick it into google search ranking system to come up first in the search, in order to lure you into a fake hotel they have prepared to trap you. (Fake hotel or fake places are those where all the employees and customers are actually their agents. The DHS, knowing that you are about to enter a store or any institution, can take over that store or institution at any time and evacuate everyone therein and then fill the place with their agents pretending to be the employees and customers. They can also evacuate a internet forum where you visit and interact with people.) Both have happened to me before (and the latter in Asia). They learned techniques like this from some other agency. They can also disconnect your phone calls at any time.

If their target is going to a hospital, the DHS can also evacuate all the patients in the hospital and send in their agents pretending to be patients. They are less likely to be pretending to be doctors, but they usually will have the cooperation of the doctors in this pretending game. This has happened to me several times.

Anyway, survival knowledge for those who need it, such as activists.
 
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Oscar_Wilde

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This whole thread is just great entertainment.

Keep it up Volvo... it's good material for my screenplay...
 

joelcairo

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The world breathlessly awaits...but wait! What if this secret information falls into the wrong hands?
 
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